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Maybe we should invade them, or at least threaten them with "liberation." |
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Or we could wait until freedom takes hold of some minds and it spreads.
I recall it was pretty doom & gloom about the Soviets and their grip and Mao’s government was pretty ’dangerous’ to us too.
Sometimes perhaps being unable to ’do’ anything serves a practical purpose.
Just because we can now, as the remaining super power, consider throwing our weight around, which we could NOT do much before the beginning of the 90’s, doesn’t mean we ought to be talking about doing it quite so frequently. I’m beginning to appreciate the brinksmanship of the Cold War. We wouldn’t be discussing invading anybody on such a regular basis. |
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Yeah, your way is better. |
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Whatever William is advocating, put me down for the exact opposite. Thanks. |
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It has it’s risks. When you ’wait and see’ a premise is usually that we’re dealing with a rational actor. The Soviets were always rational, and although we didn’t always understand the rationale, so were the Chinese.
NoKo and Iran? I’m not sure their leaders are rational. Perhaps that’s less of a danger in Iran. In NoKo on the other hand?
Running it strictly by numbers - IF they go non-linear and attack - a lot of people might die in their attack, followed by a lot more dying in the retalitation.
IF they don’t go non-linear, and we attack - a lot of people die.
Either way, a lot of people die. I’m back to viewing first strike as a bad option though. |
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Can’t we all just get along? |
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Sooner or later, NoKo is going to fall. It is going to be a long and painfull process for the slaves of NoKo. A lot more people are going to die as the result of whatever course of action we take. Either through starvation or violence, or both.
And now you can see why some people want the killing to go faster. The faster the regime falls, the faster something else can take its place and start rebuilding.
If China and others refused to prop-up the Kim Jong Il regime, with the promise of aid to a more open regime, I think we’d see a military coup there within a few weeks of such promises.
Or we could wait for the next grand parade in front of their "dear leader" and take out Kim and as much of their heavy weaponry as possible. Take out the tanks, missles, and any airforce, and they would be much more managable for the Chinese/SoKo/Japanese alliance that would be required to rebuild the country.
Then let the North Koreans themselves decide what they want to do, other then pursue weapons of mass destruction. |
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My question is, "HOW do we know what germs the North Koreans have been working on?" I support(ed) the war against Iraq, still do, but given the lamentable pre-war intelligence regarding Saddam’s WMD Programs I wonder about the ability of the US to penetrate the Korean Programs. |
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Can’t we all just get along? You have one last chance, Bow to the mighty power and wisdom of Dear Leader, accept the yoke of servitude bestowed upon you by your Korean masters; two last chances, and give us your acquired wealth.
Three, you have three last chances.
Unrightous round eyed creature, how do you plead? |
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Looker I tell you his vicotry is "inevitabre" and I personally welcome our new Korean, Poofy-Haired Overlord..... |
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The problem with invading NoKo was the fact that Seoul was pretty much assured of destruction. 15 million people living that close to the border & well within NoKo’s (non wmd equipped) artillery spelled big problems if we got into a war with North Korea; this would make the ~"650k" killed in Iraq look like nothing.
And this is completely ignoring the Nork WMD programs.
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The only correct solution is as follows:
Since military attacks would be dangerous, we have to put North Korea under siege. nothing gets out, and nothing gets in, except for things they buy with hard currency...
No aid whatsover, no matter how bad it gets. The last time Kim lost some power was when starvation made people ignore his directives. (Which is why there are now informal markets for many products in N. Korea.)
This would work very quickly, especially if we helped to smuggle radios, cell phones, etc. into the country. We could also make a public offer of aid to any new government of N. Korea that would renounce nukes, i.e. entice coups.
There have already been several coup attempts, but they failed.
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Oh, but my idea won’t work because South Koreans are ethnically chauvinist and softies for the Norks, so they will never agree.
Except maybe if we said we would withdraw our forces and remove the nuclear umbrella unless they agreed.
China might go for this, but would also would be a hard sell. |
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