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A pox on both their tribes - Part II
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, October 19, 2006

I am still amazed, given the supposed "progress" we've made in terms of race relations that political partisans still think it permissible to use racial stereotypes like Ms. Jane "Blackface Joe Lieberman" Hamsher and these idiots have done:
A little-known Republican group that claims to have swayed the 2004 presidential election with provocative radio advertising aimed at black and Hispanic audiences is spending nearly $1 million this year to boost the GOP's chances of holding on to a majority in Congress.

The group, America's Pac, began running ads last month in more than two dozen congressional districts.The campaign discusses issues ranging from warrantless wiretapping to school choice, but the most inflammatory spots pertain to abortion.
Their ad campaign is not only intellectually insulting, but racially insulting as well.
"Black babies are terminated at triple the rate of white babies," a female announcer in one of the ads says, as rain, thunder, and a crying infant are heard in the background. "The Democratic Party supports these abortion laws that are decimating our people, but the individual's right to life is protected in the Republican platform. Democrats say they want our vote.Why don't they want our lives?"

Another ad features a dialogue between two men.

"If you make a little mistake with one of your ‘hos,' you'll want to dispose of that problem tout suite, no questions asked," one of the men says.

"That's too cold. I don't snuff my own seed," the other replies.

"Maybe you do have a reason to vote Republican," the first man says.

Yeah, me and my "ho" are going to pull the "R" lever now.

Want more?
Another spot attempts to link Democrats to a white supremacist who served as a Republican in the Louisiana Legislature, David Duke.The ad makes reference to Duke's trip to Syria last year, where he spoke at an anti-war rally.

"I can understand why a Ku Klux Klan cracker like David Duke makes nice with the terrorists,"a male voice in the ad says. "What I want to know is why so many of the Democrat politicians I helped elect are on the same side of the Iraq war as David Duke."

Yup, the KKK and AQ are pals and no different that all those anti-war Dems. Wow, now there's a powerful argument to vote Republican, isn't it?

Amazingly, a man for whom I used to have a lot of respect is involved:
Mr. Rooney declined to be interviewed yesterday. The group referred calls from The New York Sun to a conservative, African-American talk show host who voiced some of the ads, Herman Cain.

"The main thing that America's Pac is up to is it basically is challenging the thesis or the belief on the part of the Republican Party that they cannot attract the black vote," Mr. Cain said. He said similar advertisements run in 2004 helped boost President Bush's share of the black vote in Ohio to 16%, from 9% in 2000.

"We don't believe that was an accident," Mr. Cain said. The IRS filing indicates that the ads are running this year in 10 battleground states, including Ohio, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Mr. Cain, who once managed the Godfather's Pizza chain and ran unsuccessfully for the Senate from Georgia in 2004, said he was not troubled that Mr. Rooney, who is white, is funding ads using black voices who claim to speak on behalf of the black community."You don't have a lot of black billionaires who would want to fund something like this," he said.
So do black billionaires think it appropriate to use racially insensitive terms as an 'appeal' to black voters? Is that what it takes? Does that constitute a positive image and positive message?

I guess so, at least for some Republicans:
America's Pac is the brainchild of a Kansas-based Republican consultant, Richard Nadler.He said Sunday that he is no longer affiliated with the group.

"Mr. Nadler is the genius.We basically follow his game plan," the group's new chief, Thomas Donelson of Marion, Iowa, said. In 2000, Mr. Nadler came under fire for a school choice-related ad in which parents said their son's violenceridden public school "was a bit more diversity than he could handle."
I say "some Republicans" purposely, since obviously not all approve:
Mr. Bush's campaign denounced the ad as "inappropriate," and the Republican National Committee called it "racist or race-baiting in intent."
But this is another in a long line of examples of the tribal business (at least on the extremes) which now passes for party politics these days. Whatever it takes, principles over party, "just win baby":
A New York investment banker who gave $10,000 to America's Pac last month, Peter Flanigan, told the Sun that he found the language in some of the abortion-related ads "a little strong."

"If it were me, I wouldn't have put the abortion one in those words," Mr. Flanigan said, before adding, "It's not as if it's totally apart from fact."

Asked why he supports the group, Mr. Flanigan said, "I think it's unfortunate that some 90% of African Americans vote Democratic … Rooney has had some success in moving African-American votes."
"A little strong?" In extremely poor taste? Screw it, Rooney "has had some success". It's all about the votes, right. Here's ten grand, full speed ahead.
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Previous Comments to this Post 

Wow, that’s really, really bad.
Written By: Mithras
I gotta tell you.....they found that type of ad was actually effective among the target audience!??

Written By: shark
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1) Jeezus Keerist!

2) Aw heck, I’ll stick with 1.

As to Shark’s point?!

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
Written By: Tom Perkins
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Come on, with all the intolerant bigoted right wingers on this site somebody is going to step up and defend this right? The right isn’t going to play by Marquis of Queensbury rules are you? Come on, we can have some excuses about how the liberals ran ads in black neighborhoods claiming Republicans winning meant crosses and churches burning can’t we? About how the Dems ran ads associating Bush with James Byrd’s murder? I mean that makes it all right doesn’t it? Come on Rethuglicans, get their back, at least say it is understandable if still wrong. I mean, what will mk have to say about the bunch of you if you sit there dumbstruck by this crap? You have a caricature to live up to.

Hmmm... I suspect we have a very different response from the right wing bigots on this site. Maybe I should go shopping for some who will help ’ol mk out.

Oh, thanks McQ. Glasnost has been looking for me to slam Republicans, he seems to think I am laser focused on the left. Now I can put something up at my site and get him off my back for at least a day;^)
Written By: Lance
Shoot, why not ’b*tches’.

If this was the type of add they were aiming at me, I’d go the other way just to spite them.

I meant to ask yesterday if the Republicans were doing anything as truly tasteless as the coffin stick-it notes.
Consider the question I didn’t ask answered.

Sign me up for the giving them their pox shots.
Written By: looker
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Those ads are beyond tasteless. And worse yet: I’m actually stooopider for having read this post.
Written By: Come on, Please
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I’m sort of torn between enjoying the red meat being thrown to me here
(Anti-war Democrats! Not David Duke! Not against the war because we hate Jews!Wooohoo!)

And my traditional contrarian impulse ("Hey, sure, they’re insulting to black people, but they’re just ads. If you’re not insulting, dishonest, or lying, go to public radio.")

It’s a good thing McCain banned this sort of thing in the 60 days before an election! :-D

Heh. Just pushing some buttons.
Written By: glasnost
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Please defend the ads. It would be a lot more fun if someone would. I don’t think we are going to have any takers. I think it says a lot about this site’s readership that not everything can be reduced to partisanship. No defending Jane Hamsher type of ridiculousness going on here.
Written By: Lance
Mr. Bush’s campaign denounced the ad as "inappropriate," and the Republican National Committee called it "racist or race-baiting in intent."
But this is another in a long line of examples of the tribal business (at least on the extremes) which now passes for party politics these days. Whatever it takes, principles over party, "just win baby":
Even though the RNC didn’t appear to approve those messages?

Shrugs It’s really difficult for me to get into a tizzy over this one or the flag-draped coffins. This really looks like a self-correcting problem inasmuch as these types of ads are ripe for exploitation by the opposing side.

Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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Please defend the ads. It would be a lot more fun if someone would. I don’t think we are going to have any takers.

If you say so. Here goes. The ad about abortion, you can hear people talking to each other like that on MTV all the time. If it sounds like MTV, it’s a good way to bring in the politically inactive.

There’s a case to defend almost anything. That’s my sad lot in life, to think that way. I only made it for the fun you can have tearing it apart, but that might speak more to my sense of social self-interest than anything else, mightn’t it?
Written By: glasnost
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I only made it for the fun you can have tearing it apart, but that might speak more to my sense of social self-interest than anything else, mightn’t it?
Or lack of social life. ;)
Written By: McQ
I don’t think any of these ads include the "racist" element being asserted by some. In fact, I think for the target market (young white and black liberals) these ads convey simple truths that put into question their own liberalism.

Young black and white liberals are more than aware of the cognitive dissonance between the disproportionate amount of abortion within the black community and their simultaneously-held political adherence to that which retains a questionably genocidal status quo. This issue exploited wisely could have a dramatic impact in driving a wedge between young black and white liberals especially as young black men and women become more successful in the marketplace of ideas and talent.

Young black and white liberals have also grown up to recognize David Duke as one of the most deplorable creatures in modern life and anything associated with him is evil and corrupt. I think young black liberals are less inclined to be persuaded by such an ad while young "cracker" liberals might feel the sting of guilt by association.

These ads are targeted at the MTV Generation and that generation is largely liberal. These ads that seem crass and crude to the politically astute, speak plainly and originally to the politically muddled. In fact, these ads make liberals look over their shoulder at the liberal behind them. These are divide and conquer ads and are aimed at those most predisposed to such propaganda, namely, young liberals.
Written By: thordaddy
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Calling the jokers behind these ads dense is an insult to gravity.
Written By: SDN
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