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Context and time mean nothing to Greenwald
Posted by: McQ on Friday, November 03, 2006

At least not if cheap rhetorical points can be scored:
When Kerry and others talked about the severe problems in Iraq and the complete ineptitude of the administration's conduct of the war, he was being a cut-and-run defeatist and doom-and-gloom loser.

When McQ and his Bush-following comrades say the same thing (two years and hundreds of thousands of needless deaths later), they're being hard-nosed patriots willing to do the tough work and acknowledge reality.
Greenwald is talking about what Kerry said in 2004. I, of course, am talking about options in Iraq in late 2006 and how they've narrowed significantly. The fact that Greenwald is unable to understand that context and what that means says more about his acumen than mine.
 
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McQ, stop wasting our time with your pointless logic, facts and empirical data. We all know the Democrats were right about Iraq, even as far back as the 70’s when John Kerry first started to criticize Bush’s immoral war.

/sips some koolaid
 
Written By: Fyro
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McQ, you no longer talk about Iraq. You talk about what other people have to say about Iraq. You even talk about what other people have said about what other people have said about Iraq. Today it was Greenwald. Yesterday it was Peters.

You have reduced yourself to media critic, to the Roger Ebert of the Iraq war.

Now, why is this? Why do you nibble around the edges? Why do you continiaully comment on the meaningless when this is a time to be meaningful? Why has your analysis of Iraq been reduced to analyzing what other people have to say about iraq?

I have a guess, of course. But why don’t you tell us why first.
 
Written By: mkultra
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McQ, you no longer talk about Iraq. You talk about what other people have to say about Iraq.
MK, you’re an idiot. And not even a very good or worthy idiot.

You’re an idiot in the mode of John Kerry. A bleating, squealing, arrogant and condescending boob who isn’t even aware of how foolish he continually makes himself look. And it is comments like this which forever relegate you to that realm in which most look at what you have to say, snort derisively and move on with an eye roll and silent thanks to God that by his grace they’re nothing like you.

 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Why does anyone bother reading Greenwald? Beside mkultra, that is?
 
Written By: Pablo
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"... realm in which most look at what you have to say,..."

I guess that puts me in the minority again.
 
Written By: timactual
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Kerry saw in 2004 — as did many of us — the reality that it took some until 2006 to recognize. Lloyd Etheredge did a study once called "Can Governments Learn" (that was the book title), where he concluded that quite often when strategic errors are made government officials avoid the tough calls and try to look for tactical reasons for policy failure. Trying to say "things would have worked out better if only we had done X" is a common way of people avoiding having to admit that they had been wrong. But history will show that the war critics of 2003 and 2004 were right.

This is the kind of rhetoric to expect from people who deep down know they are wrong, but are unable to admit it, perhaps even to themselves. The frustration and anger boils over to rhetoric like:
MK, you’re an idiot. And not even a very good or worthy idiot.

You’re an idiot in the mode of John Kerry. A bleating, squealing, arrogant and condescending boob who isn’t even aware of how foolish he continually makes himself look. And it is comments like this which forever relegate you to that realm in which most look at what you have to say, snort derisively and move on with an eye roll and silent thanks to God that by his grace they’re nothing like you.
The person writing the above was describing himself more than anyone else. Reality bites.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm

 
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