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Look again Dale. It appears that some Democrats have done it again. Sadly, neither side seems to have much respect for this issue. A group cannot cry hypocrisy when they do not insist on learning the lesson themselves. |
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Keep repeating it until you become used to the sound: "Speaker Pelosi". If it happens, then it happens. Having already voted, and distrustful of the polls your co-blogger continually points to, I’ll wait til Wednesday... |
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Thing is Dale, because people who are like Kerry think our troops are in Iraq because they are lazy and/or stupid are Democrats, I am for good reasons predisposed to believe Republican uses of such images will be respectful, and Democratic party uses will be reprehensible.
That’s the bed they made, they get to lay in it.
Also the Democrats did use that sort of footage first—I do not expect the Republicans to commit unilateral diarmament about the issue.
Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp |
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Keep repeating it until you become used to the sound: "Speaker Pelosi". Yeah! Then the military will get the respect it’s due....right up until the moment when Charlie Rangel uses his Chairmanship of the Ways and Means Committee to defund Iraq, as he’s stated he would do.
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because people who are like Kerry think our troops are in Iraq because they are lazy and/or stupid are Democrats, What do you call it when you are beating a dead horse and it’s the wrong horse? |
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What do you call it when you are beating a dead horse and it’s the wrong horse? The Plame Affair? |
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What do you call it when you are beating a dead horse and it’s the wrong horse?
The Plame Affair? That’s my nominee for comeback of the year. |
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This started as an interesting post.
The comments illustrate perfectly why mud slinging campaign adds are so popular. It isn’t the issues, it isn’t the politicians, its the opportunity to try to score points by punch=and=kick quips. The brain gets totally bypassed in favor of pure vitriol.
=If the ’Johnny did it first’ excuse is not accepted on kindergarden playgounds, then it should not be used in politics. Remember ’personal responsibility’?
I also remember lessons on sportsmanship and the ’ends do not justify the emans" dilemma and honesty and just plain good behavior. But then, my memory is very long, apparently longer than the current means of discourse. |
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I demand, on behalf of Mkultra, that Q&O stop waving the banner of the Wingers!
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I demand, on behalf of Mkultra, that Q&O stop waving the banner of the Wingers! Does this mean we can’t use "Headed For A Heartbreak" as a theme song? |
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Even if a Democrat does it, it’s still just as wrong when a Republican does.
This is not a political issue, but an issue of decency. |
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Fairness rears it’s head:
I would be interested for the sake of discussion to know what was being said, under each use of those photos... and what impressions were being left in both those circumstances.
Certainly, one may assume that the Democrats made use of those images as "proof" of a failed policy, Or, perhaps, the usual antiwar sentiments. Or, both. That seems fairly open and shut.
The open question however, is what point the Republicans were making, and how that was being handled specifically. I notice that that isn’t covered in the linked story, nor in Dale’s commentary. As to what difference that might make I’m not sure that we know the answer to that, without knowing the answer of the point the Republicans were making. It may well be that there’s a whole different level at work. Then again, it may not be. We don’t know, based on what the linked story tells us.
If you force me to speculate, I would have to say that they were probably making the point that their sacrifices should not have been made in vain, which is precisely what would happen if we were to pull out now. But as I say that’s mere speculation.
I’m not sure that the latter of those two points, can be considered overtly political. Certainly, some would point out political connotations to it but it seems a matter of perception. I would point out as an example, that this blog, (as well as my own) have been running Project Hero for quite some time.(Well done, Bruce) In spite of the facts running solidly to the contrary, there are number of Democrats who would claim that this was political advertising, on the backs of our fighting men, etc..
(As an aside, will we ever see a left wing blog running a similar stories honoring our armed forces? I do tend to doubt it. )
I understand Dale’s anger. And I tend to agree, that based on what we know of the situation, the use of each is equally offensive. But I point out we’re making that ’cut and dried’ judgment with only half the facts. I don’t know one way or the other but it does seem to me that the other half, may very well change the perception altogether. |
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THANK YOU, BITHEAD ! - for a thoughtful, coherent respose.
I don’t know of a full-fledged project of the type on this site that appears as a regular part of any Left-leaning blogger. I have read some blogs about individual soldiers know to the blogger. I don’t really keep a regular check, though. I just browse at random, different blogs on different days.
I think PBS (channel 13 in NY) does a classy thing. It’s a periodic rollcall of the fallen, with their pictures, in silence - no background chatter. It’s quite moving. ...Which leads me to perceptions. In this overheated atmosphere, there are people who see a hidden political message in everything, not excluidng cloud formations. The PBS silent roll call could be interpreted either way, as a call to continue the fight, or as a condemnation of the war.
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The comments illustrate perfectly why mud slinging campaign adds are so popular. It isn’t the issues, it isn’t the politicians, its the opportunity to try to score points by punch=and=kick quips. The brain gets totally bypassed in favor of pure vitriol. Laime - hey we agree.
How often did I hear the "if everybody was jumping off a bridge" saw as a kid? Wrong is wrong, none of this "they did it first" crap washes with me. |
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THANK YOU, BITHEAD !for a thoughtful, coherent respose. I suppose I should consider this a compliment, but I do have a concern about how shocked you sound, here. (chuckle)
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