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(UPDATED) Rumsfeld stepping down and Tester declared winner in MT
Posted by: McQ on Wednesday, November 08, 2006

That's what just came over the radio (12:49). I'm checking it out.

Mary Katherine Ham is saying AP is reporting Rumsfeld stepping down.

AP story here. Bush press conference in a few minutes.

Right now the entire AP story is:
Republican officials say Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down. Word comes a day after the Democratic gains in the election, in which Rumsfeld was a focus of much of the criticism of the Iraq war.
Reports also say Rumsfeld is denying this.

CNN is reporting that Robert Gates former head of the CIA will take over the spot and that President Bush will announce the Rumsfeld resignation at the press conference.

It is official: Bush just announced that Rumsfeld will step down at his press conference.

Wonderful. Doing something like this the day after getting spanked electorally. Makes perfect sense, or better said, it is par for the course.

Video of Rumsfeld resigning.

The story is all over the place now.

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More breaking news, Tester has been declared the winner in MT.
Democrats won a cliffhanger race in Montana on Wednesday that brought them to the brink of control of the Senate, after Americans sick of scandal and weary of war ended the Republican majority in the House.
More here.

For the Republicans, that leaves a very slight hope in VA.

UPDATE: Just heard a discussion about the Rumsfeld situation by COL David Hunt. He says it was a forced resignation and that many in the Pentagon are turning cartwheels in the corridors. He also alleged that Rumsfeld was a micro-manager who made LBJ's outhouse hunting in North Vietnam look benign. I'm sure a lot things like this will begin coming out now.

Gates has to go through confirmation hearings prior to assuming his post. Can you say 'contentious'? A perfect venue for the Democrats to set out their "new direction" for Iraq. I can promise I'll be waiting to hear how they now plan on solving the "Iraq problem".
 
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*SIGH*

Probably the politically smart thing to do, will take away a big bashing club from the Dems but sheesh....
 
Written By: shark
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Wow, that was quick.
 
Written By: Linus
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I’m just glad Bush waited until after getting spanked yesterday to do something bold and decisive, demonstrating an ability to admit some mistakes, change course, and still lead.

(In a way, it reminds me of Bob Dole’s Viagra commercials. He waited until after losing the election to show any charisma whatsoever. Who are these people?!?)
 
Written By: Ronnie Gipper
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I’m just glad Bush waited until after getting spanked yesterday to do something bold and decisive, demonstrating an ability to admit some mistakes, change course, and still lead.
Sort of incredible, isn’t it? It makes you realize they earned everything that happened to them yesterday.
 
Written By: McQ
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Amen, McQ. They should have shaken things up in preparation for bringing the hammer down on Baghdad, months ago. A less politically hamstrung SecDef might have had the clout to do what was necessary, and it would have reflected well on this administration’s ability to lead.
 
Written By: OrneryWP
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In hindsight, it’ll be hard to argue that last night’s results weren’t necessary for the good of the country. I guess he was determined to stick by Rumsfeld until he decided to ditch him.
 
Written By: Geek, Esq.
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Hugh Hewitt was talking about how he wished the Repubs could still win, but it would be close enough to "scare them straight." I think this shows that wasn’t ever going to happen. A loss is the only thing these people understand. (Hopefully the Buckeyes are not so dense.)
 
Written By: Linus
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Yeah I can hardly wait for the "learn’n" to begin I just don’t want to hear too much kvetching on these pages, Minimum Wage (Henke), Comprehensive Immigration Reform/Guest Workers (McQ), Cut and Run in Iraq (McQ and Dale)...

Yes I know Hastert and them had it coming...just can’t help but feeling like someone is saying, "Let him have a heart attack. IF he survives he’ll know better than to smoke."
 
Written By: Joe
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I’m just glad Bush waited until after getting spanked yesterday to do something bold and decisive, demonstrating an ability to admit some mistakes, change course, and still lead.
It’s much more likely to me that Rumsfeld decided to quit instead of President Bush firing him. Rumsfeld knows that the Democrats are going to subpoena him until the cows come home. He won’t be able to respond to that and still get anything done.

For that matter, President Bush put an effing spook in charge of DoD? That is an improvement?!
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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Yeah I can hardly wait for the "learn’n" to begin I just don’t want to hear too much kvetching on these pages, Minimum Wage (Henke), Comprehensive Immigration Reform/Guest Workers (McQ), Cut and Run in Iraq (McQ and Dale)...
Then don’t read "these pages" Joe ... you can then avoid any of that.
 
Written By: McQ
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Oh touchy McQ? I’m a reader...I’m a potential blogad subscriber... Not too wise is it? Don’t hear CBS saying, directly, "You take your eyeballs and advertising potential to ABC."

Oh yes McQ EVERY time you or Henke complain about Congressional/Federal activity I’ll be here to point out to you and the other "Hang’em...it’ll teach’em a lesson" that THIS IS WHAT YOU ADVOCATED. Personally, Henke MAY have some issues that may trip him up, having prostituted himself to Mammon in Virginia, but that may or may not be the case.

You don’t like that you oughtn’t have advanced it as a "strategy"...As Public Image Limited sang, "If this is what you want/This is what you get." OR "Be careful what you wish for you might get it."
 
Written By: Joe
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Henke was working for George Allen, so I don’t know what Joe is kvetching about.

Anyways, minimum wage hikes don’t exactly pose the same level of harm as a disastrously mishandled war.
 
Written By: Geek, Esq.
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I don’t think Gates’ confirmation will be particularly contentious. I suspect that prior to his confirmation hearings the Baker-Hamilton Commission will announce its recommendations, and the President and Mr. Gates will sign on to one of its recommendations. The Dems will kvetch about the plan at the margins, but will basically sign on and use the confirmation hearings to vent about Rumsfeld, Cheney and Halliburton. At the end of the day, we will have had a nice show trial and Jim Baker and his protege Robert Gates will be running Iraq policy for the balance of the administration. Given where we are today, that’s not a bad outcome.
 
Written By: Steven Donegal
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I think you are right on Steven. There may be indictments coming out of Haliburton. Rumsfelt was a micromanager he was running the war every bit as badly as macnamara and LBJ did. There is lots of blame to attribute but just from a competency point of view it was time for him to go.

Whats important is that we do things differently. Hopefully Gates/Baker/ and Hamilton will have some ideas other than "stay the course" or "cut and run" which seem to be the only ones Bush/Cheney/Rummy ever considered.

The dems don’t want to be blamed for q big mess that micht happen if we just cut and run. Don’t sell them short. They can’t be much worse that what we have had.

 
Written By: cindyb
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Well Geek, how did Allen come down on illegal immigration..I don’t know nor did I care, but I KNOW how Henke felt about it...that leads to the interesting question, possibly, "Of how come YOU support this, but your boss didn’t and how did you advance a cause you don’t believe in?"...as a blogger, or not depending on the Allen-Henke policy onvergence.

And Geek, IF you’re liberal/libertarian don’t tell me your too happy with a Webb win, unless your ONLY issue, which it could have been, was the War in Iraq.
 
Written By: Joe
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"They can’t be much worse that what we have had."

Uh huh. Thus speaks the reality-based community.

 
Written By: Unknown
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Don’t forget, McQ, Joe is a potential blogads subscriber. He has the potential to put maybe $8 in your pocket!

So just keep that in mind when you compose a post on your own blog.

Eight. Dollars.
 
Written By: spongeworthy
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Oh touchy McQ?
Not touchy at all. You were complaining, as usual. I simply gave you a solution to your complaint.

Because what you want just ain’t gonna happen and being the nice guy I am, I’m just trying to save you all that pain.
 
Written By: McQ
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I guess he was determined to stick by Rumsfeld until he decided to ditch him.
Are you saying he was for Rummy before he was against him???????

;-)
 
Written By: meagain
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I don’t think Gates’ confirmation will be particularly contentious.
There is a difference between what should be and what will be. I agree it shouldn’t be contentious. I’m betting, however, it will be.
 
Written By: McQ
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Losing is only going to show republicans that they weren’t socialist ENOUGH to win.
 
Written By: Josh
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Don’t forget, McQ, Joe is a potential blogads subscriber. He has the potential to put maybe $8 in your pocket!

So just keep that in mind when you compose a post on your own blog.

Eight. Dollars.

Are you saying my $8 don’t spend? So how many potential eyeballs does one need to shed in order to be pure, Spongeworthy?

I realize no one, or not many are making a living from blogging, to include the crew here, but it HELPS pay the bills, so it becomes, in part, a business.

If I ran a business I wouldn’t play Rush Limbaugh, the smellie hippies’ money spends just like Jerry Falwell’s.

Oh and McQ I am willing to bet starting in Janueary if not sooner the complaints aobut the policy options chosen by the Congress will be the topic of quite a number of blog postings...unless of course this site is going to focus on the Honorverse, photoblogging, and interior design.
 
Written By: Joe
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Oh and McQ I am willing to bet starting in Janueary if not sooner the complaints aobut the policy options chosen by the Congress will be the topic of quite a number of blog postings.
Well duh!

Just like policy options chosen by the present Congress were the topic of quite a number of blog postings.

Sheesh.
 
Written By: McQ
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I dunno, Joe. Why don’t you sign up as an advertiser for this site and we’ll put your Super Retard-Strength Market Mojo to the test?

You know, I like your style, Joe. I’m thinking of pushing my own agenda on some other sites I frequent. You know, as a "potential blogads subscriber". See, I have all this potential—I might run an ad someday and all—so the free content had better just fall in line.

Say, are you going to let Franks keep up the doom-mongering? Cause that’s kind of wearing on me...
 
Written By: spongeworthy
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For that matter, President Bush put an effing spook in charge of DoD? That is an improvement?!
That particular appointment is not an improvement, per se. The fact that Bush did something in the direction of changing course in Iraq is the improvement.

However, you make a good point about Rumsfield quitting. I hadn’t considered that possibility. (Right now Rummy’s probably off looking in a mirror, rehearsing his lines: "I do not recall. I DO not recall. I do NOT recall ... that’s it ... I do NOT recall.")
 
Written By: Ronnie Gipper
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You know, I like your style, Joe. I’m thinking of pushing my own agenda on some other sites I frequent. You know, as a "potential blogads subscriber". See, I have all this potential—I might run an ad someday and all—so the free content had better just fall in line.
Obviously you might first want to consider what was SAID and what a Blog IS...McQ simply seemed to be saying, "Hit the bricks" I simply said "And lose eyeballs"..McQ is selling IDEAS, here... ideas, disputes, and the like...it draws eyeballs....when the readership dies back so too the eyeballs. McQ can post on anything, I don’t dispute his right to do so on his site. I just think it behooves him, to understand that, as in Quantum Electro-Dynamics, that the entire surface fo the mirror reflects, not only the portion in sight...in short it is ALL opinions that make a site work, whether they agree or don’t.
Well duh!

Just like policy options chosen by the present Congress were the topic of quite a number of blog postings.

Sheesh.
That was polite-ese for you guys P*SSED and MOANED a LOT about the 109th Congress, and now you’ll do the same about the 110th only difference is that YOU WANTED THIS CONGRESS... So when you kvetch, I don’t think you’ve got much of a leg to stand on... "The amnesty program is bad"-Well the REPUBLICAN House opposed it. "A higher minimum wage hurts low income wage earners"-Well a Republican COngress might not have passed it. The defunding of the Iraq mission is damaging to the overall readiness of the Armed Services, We’re heading towards another lost decade"-Well, you wanted Divided Government, knowing what the other half wanted. So now you get it. I hope you enjoy it. As Spock said, "The Wanting is not the same as the Having, it is not logical, but it is true."

 
Written By: Joe
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Anybody make any sense of that?

Bueller?
 
Written By: spongeworthy
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As Spock said, "The Wanting is not the same as the Having, it is not logical, but it is true."
Did Spock REALLY say that?
 
Written By: shark
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Shark, yes, it is what Spock said at the conclusion of "Amok Time" to S’tonn in relation to T’Pring his former bride-to-be...Man it’s a sad day when I can out-geek someone.

Simply put, Spongeworthy, ideas are what make blogs sell, the more ideas the better... the fewer the ideas presented, the fewer the eyballs and the less the blogad revenue. Ergo, ideas and disputation sells... not flamewars, necessarily, but disputation.

Spongeworthy might have problems grasping that being named after a line from a a show "about nothing", boasting in its banality, though.

You make this site work, as do I , or Shark, or Glasnost if we leave, all things being equal the site suffers.
 
Written By: Joe
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Well, something like that. In ’Amok Time’, Spock says "After a time you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
 
Written By: BrianOfAtlanta
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"Just heard a discussion about the Rumsfeld situation by COL David Hunt. He says it was a forced resignation ...."

I’m not sure what Hunt means by this, McQ.

I seem to remember Bush acknowledged that Rummy had offered his resignation before, and also, IIRC, that Rummy said in an interview, fairly recently, that he has offered it to Bush three times. So, in a sense, it has been there all the time, even if Bush had turned the offer down, and would seem out of Rummy’s character to be "forced" now. So, I don’t think this is the point.

OTOH if Hunt meant that Bush was forced to accept Rummy’s resignation, whether by Rummy or others in Bush’s circle .. all I can say is "Well, Duh!"

If anything, my guess is that Rummy may have told Bush he had no choice but to accept it and Rummy forced Bush’s hand. (Personally, I think Bush’s hardheadedness is more of the problem than the hardheadedness of many in his administration, but that is another line of discussion, entirely.) That’s why Bush didn’t announce it before the election — he couldn’t annouce Rumsfeld was stepping down without also announcing a replacement or it would be apparent that, to forgive the phrase, he had no plan.

Whether Rummy did it to avoid the kangaroo court, for the good of the country, or that he was tired of the abuse will become more apparent as the weeks go by.
 
Written By: Dusty
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That was polite-ese for you guys P*SSED and MOANED a LOT about the 109th Congress, and now you’ll do the same about the 110th only difference is that YOU WANTED THIS CONGRESS...
We wanted the 109th, we just didn’t want what they did. Is that difficult to understand?

And we’ll piss and moan about 110th, most likely for the same reason. BTW, we wanted the House to go Dem. Not the Senate. So no we didn’t want "this Congress". We wanted a divided Congress and thus a divided government. We got the divided government but not in the form any of us wanted. But don’t mind the annoying details, Joe, full speed ahead.
 
Written By: McQ
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I’m not sure what Hunt means by this, McQ.
He means Bush said something like, "Hey, Rummy, you’re doing a heck of a job! Remember that resignation letter you submitted twice before and I declined? Mind if I see it again?"
 
Written By: McQ
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He means Bush said something like, "Hey, Rummy, you’re doing a heck of a job! Remember that resignation letter you submitted twice before and I declined? Mind if I see it again?"
Could’ve been handled worse. Cheney could have taken Rummy out to the woods and said "Look over there and tell me about the rabbits."
 
Written By: Ronnie Gipper
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Could’ve been handled worse. Cheney could have taken Rummy out to the woods and said "Look over there and tell me about the rabbits."
HEH.....as far as this goes, I can understand it. But note to Pres. Bush: Don’t get the mistaken idea that you can placate the Dems. It’s a mug’s game
 
Written By: shark
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Losing is only going to show republicans that they weren’t socialist ENOUGH to win.

Yep. Why? Cuz’ it’s true.

This ties in nicely with the possibility of Spence becoming minority leader. I’ll happily throw my support in! With Spence as a leader, the Republicans can sabotage John McCain, go no-holds barred for Social Security privatization, demand large spending cuts in education and Medicaid ... and go down in flames in 2008. Cheers!
 
Written By: glasnost
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We wanted the 109th, we just didn’t want what they did. Is that difficult to understand?
And we’ll piss and moan about 110th, most likely for the same reason. BTW, we wanted the House to go Dem. Not the Senate. So no we didn’t want "this Congress". We wanted a divided Congress and thus a divided government. We got the divided government but not in the form any of us wanted. But don’t mind the annoying details, Joe, full speed ahead.
The foolishness of this statement astounds me, McQ..."I pulled for a trainwreck, BUT Ah never s’pected one THIS size." Well D’uh dude,...don’t pull for train wrecks then. The DETAILS MATTER McQ, and that’s what you seemingly can not grasp.

But don’t worry as long as I can I’ll be here pointing out how y’use guyz got the Divided Government you wanted....I can not see how you can complain about anything that happens. This is what you WANTED? Higher minimum wage, illegal amnesty, tax increases, MORE spending...apparently you wouldn’t grasp that the answer to a bad captain is not ANOTHER, if not worse Captain, but trying to change the course of the ship.
 
Written By: Joe
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Upon reflection I’ll follow-up with this.

I understand why Glasnost and MK would say, "In a choice between Speaker Pelosi and Speaker Hastert, I choose Speakewr Pelosi." It makes sense, they WANT Nancy Pelosi and her policies, so OF COURSE they choose Speaker Pelosi.

It seems to me, McQ what you are saying is, "In a choice between Danny Hastert and Nancy Pelosi, I’ll choose Nancy Pelosi, because Danny Hastert is not Michael Badnarik."

Well he isn’t and he isn’t Ron Paul, or Joe Clarke or Glenn Reynolds or Neal Boortz, and the choice was not between Hastert, Boortz, Reynolds, Clarke, Badnarik, or Paul. It was between PELOSI and HASTERT, not having Hastert in no way secures a Speakership more to your way of thinking. And it is your unwillingness or inability to grasp that the REAL choices, this year, were between a Speaker from San Francisco and the Left of her Party and a Speaker from Il from the Centre of HIS were the only two options, and that pulling for a person and policies with which you disagree, almost entirely, can be rationalized.

I could understand if the question were who for Speaker, Ron Paul or Danny Hastert, but it wasn’t and a vote for Pelosi in ’06 makes it more likely the choice will be Pelosi or Hoyer in ’08 than it will be Pelosi or Paul or McQ.

And the rest, we never wanted to give up the Senate, well that’s a hoot! I guess the rest of the electorate just didn’t get that message or didn’t properly decode it with their magic decoder rings, then. The hubris of that statement is breath-taking....In a previous life you must have been a member of Carter’s Fed.
 
Written By: Joe
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Dammit!

I was on holiday and I missed all the fun around here.

McQ, I think Joe is a little pissed at you.

I think this is what psychologists like to call transference.

Joe, I’ll give McQ eight dollars to have you stick around, man. You crack me up dude. Endless entertainment. What with you and your faith based research.

It’s true because it feels true.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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And by the way, Joe…

Where is your usual…
QUAGMIRE HALLIBURTON MCBUSHITLER
Yadda…yadda…yadda…that usually begins your enlightened comments?
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Well Pogue...it ain’t faith based...it’s the truth, you just don’t like hearing it...It’s not transference, the people who lost the Hosue and Senate were my people, but McQ and his ilk just astound me with their "reasoning" which I finally encapsulated in the above post...so tell me Pogue how does pulling for Pelosi, when you don’t want her policies, make sense, or again how does choosing Pelosi make sense because Hastert isn’t libertarian enough?
 
Written By: Joe
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It seems to me, McQ what you are saying is, "In a choice between Danny Hastert and Nancy Pelosi, I’ll choose Nancy Pelosi, because Danny Hastert is not Michael Badnarik."
Nope.

Divided government, House to Dems, gridlock.

Has nothing to do with particular personalities. I’m not sure why you can’t figure that out.

In fact, speaking of personalities, I have little use for either Hastert or Pelosi.
Well he isn’t and he isn’t Ron Paul, or Joe Clarke or Glenn Reynolds or Neal Boortz, and the choice was not between Hastert, Boortz, Reynolds, Clarke, Badnarik, or Paul. It was between PELOSI and HASTERT, not having Hastert in no way secures a Speakership more to your way of thinking. And it is your unwillingness or inability to grasp that the REAL choices, this year, were between a Speaker from San Francisco and the Left of her Party and a Speaker from Il from the Centre of HIS were the only two options, and that pulling for a person and policies with which you disagree, almost entirely, can be rationalized.
I assume, is some twisted way, this makes sense to you. It makes none to me.
 
Written By: McQ
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I was on holiday and I missed all the fun around here.
"On holiday?" How continental.
McQ, I think Joe is a little pissed at you.

I think this is what psychologists like to call transference.
Heck, whatever. I was only offering the boy a little advice based on his complaint. I thought I was being a nice guy.
 
Written By: McQ
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but McQ and his ilk just astound me with their "reasoning" which I finally encapsulated in the above post.
If you say so, Joe.
 
Written By: McQ
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The foolishness of this statement astounds me, McQ
It doesn’t particularly surprise me that you don’t understand the concept. You’ve not understood it from the beginning so I’m not sure why you’re surprised you’re still clueless Joe. Oh you’ve mischaracterized it, put words in my mouth and basically oversimplified everything, but understand? Nah.

And nothing you’ve said today has demonstrated you’ve gotten any closer to understanding it, to include this most recent comment.

When that happens repeatedly I find, at some point, it is better to let the person having difficulty grasping the concept alone so they can figure it out by themselves, if that’s possible, because explaining it over and over is obviously a fruitless endeavor.

We’re at that point.
 
Written By: McQ
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Joe, I’ll give McQ eight dollars to have you stick around, man. You crack me up dude. Endless entertainment. What with you and your faith based research.
Pay up, big mouth.
 
Written By: McQ
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"On holiday?" How continental.
Heh. Duuuuuuuuuude, I am sooooo worldly. I ooze sophistication. I bleed cosmopolitan. I seep. You know that!!
Heck, whatever. I was only offering the boy a little advice based on his complaint. I thought I was being a nice guy.
You!? Nice Guy!? Well there must be another side to you then. ;)

Besides… you waste your pixels, dear friend…
the people who lost the Hosue and Senate were my people…
Written By: Joe
Joe’s a loyalist. Tried and true. And no evidence will shake his conviction.

Pay up, big mouth.
Umm…. Yeah… I’ll have to get you on Tuesday.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Are staunch Republicans STILL trying to suggest that Libertarians, who voted 60% in favor of Democrats over Republicans, still have a better home in the low spending, freedom loving, Constitution protecting, small government Republican Party?

Wake up people, you lost conservative Democrats, you lost liberal Republicans, you lost independents, you lost libertarians.

You won people that thought Rumsfeld was doing a heckuva job... and now you lost them too.

I am hoping the GOP regroups, I would like a decent Republican Presidential candidate in ’08 to sign the national health care bill.

Cap
 
Written By: CaptinSarcastic
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Yeah, every time one of these guys resign all of a sudden they are called a "micro-manager." Probably because to reform the entrenched interests in the Pentagon, you’d have to watch every bureaucratic detail very carefully to avoid them sneaking back to their old ways.

Why Rumsfeld had to resign after the election? Because that’s what governments do when they lose elections, same in UK, or other countries...the only other points where he could have resigned was Abu Ghraib and perhaps in 2005.
 
Written By: Harun
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Are staunch Republicans STILL trying to suggest that Libertarians, who voted 60% in favor of Democrats over Republicans, still have a better home in the low spending, freedom loving, Constitution protecting, small government Republican Party?
Heh ... Cap now comes the hard part ... you have to actually govern. You know, put up or shut up in political terms.

So let’s see how they do before concluding that they’re any better, ok? My guess is as far as libertarians go, this will prove to be a non-reoccurring event.
 
Written By: McQ
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Heh ... Cap now comes the hard part ... you have to actually govern. You know, put up or shut up in political terms.
I think that even you’d have to admit that the bar has been set pretty low.

Still, your point is valid, it’s time for the grown ups to take charge, and this time, if they actually act like grown ups and not petulant children, we may be pleasantly surprised.

Back in the 90’s, my main rule of governance was "if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it".

Unfortunately for those that don’t like government tinkering, a lot of things are broken, perhaps at the hands of previous governments trying to fix them, but be that as it may, expect a lot of fixes.


Cap
 
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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I think that even you’d have to admit that the bar has been set pretty low.
I think you’re completely mistaken in that regard. I don’t think the bar has ever been higher and I don’t think the Dems have ever been less prepared to clear it.

Look, whether you want it or not or whether you can do anything or not, Iraq is now yours. We both know how government works in that regard, but a vast number of American voters don’t know and don’t care. They’ve bought the noise. Now Dems have to deliver. Time to head in that "new direction" and "do it better".

Couple that with incoming class of conservative Democratic lawmakers and much more liberal senior leadership and you have the makings of a train wreck which will be aided and abetted by Republicans at every turn.

It is now the Republicans who have the luxury of sitting back and criticizing every move the Dems make without having to do anything or have a plan. And my guess is they’ll be every bit as good at it as the Dems have been. Their primary mission in the next two years will be to produce a giant case of Democrat fatigue.

Enjoy.
 
Written By: McQ
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"He also alleged that Rumsfeld was a micro-manager who made LBJ’s outhouse hunting in North Vietnam look benign. I’m sure a lot things like this will begin coming out now."

Funny how people open up about all the bad things that went on, after it’s safe to do so. I’m sure we will be treated to endless memoirs(?), interviews, and magazine articles where insiders sadly tell us how bad Rumsfeld was, and if only he had listened to me....
Pretty standard. Please pass the salt.


 
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