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(UPDATED x 2) More Fallout
Posted by: McQ on Wednesday, November 08, 2006

Dennis Hastert will not be the House minority leader according to Fox (radio).

Can't say it breaks my heart.

UPDATE: Alternatives?
In light of our editorial from the wee hours, we are hearing from multiple credible sources Mike Pence will announce he is running for Minority Leader later today. Likewise, John Shadegg will announce he intends to run for Minority Whip.

Both men are expected to wait for Speaker Hastert to announce he is going to the back bench.
Shadegg I could support. I don't know Pence well enough. Boehner is also running.

Hmmm ... this from Human Events on Pence:
When President Bush pushed through the No Child Left Behind education law in his first year in office, Mike Pence opposed it. Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the current House majority leader, not only supported No Child Left Behind, he became its principal congressional advocate-along with liberal Democratic Sen. Teddy Kennedy of Massachusetts.

In 2003, when Bush pushed through his $8-trillion Medicare prescription drug entitlement, creating a new welfare program for the middle class, Boehner supported Bush again. Pence led a gang of House conservatives who valiantly opposed it. When the leadership brought the drug plan up on the House floor in the wee hours, Hastert and DeLay tried to bully conservatives to switch their votes. Some did. Not Mike Pence.

Boehner voted for the drug entitlement.

Last year, when President Bush, stung by criticism of his response to Hurricane Katrina, started tossing out federal tax dollars like a carnival king tossing out Mardi Gras favors, Pence led the conservatives in the House Republican Study Committee, which he chaired, in demanding spending cuts to offset Bush's proposed spending. Eventually, Pence and Company forced reluctant Republican leaders to accept at least some cuts-even in entitlement spending.
So far so good.

UPDATE II:

Shadegg's letter declaring his candidacy.
The American people sent us an important message yesterday. They told us that we need to recommit ourselves to our core principles as Republicans, the principles of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. We are the party of limited government, individual responsibility, and national security. They did not repudiate our principles, but they have rejected some of our recent practices.
Pence's letter declaring his candidacy:
I am running for Republican leader, because I believe that we did not just lose our Majority—we lost our way. We are in the wilderness because we walked away from the limited government principles that minted the Republican Congress. But there is a way out. “The way out of the wilderness,” author Mark Helprin wrote, “is the truth; recognizing it, stating it, defending it, living by it.” Here is the truth as I see it.
Sounds like at least two Republicans got the wake up call.
 
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Based on this press release, I’d vote for Tom Coburn as minority leader of the Senate. House, I don’t know what to do, but certainly somebody who believes that:
The Republican Party now has an opportunity to rediscover its identity as a party for limited government, free enterprise and individual responsibility. Most Americans still believe in these ideals, which reflect not merely the spirit of 1994 or the Reagan Revolution, but the vision of our founders. If Republicans present real ideas and solutions based on these principles we will do well in the future.
 
Written By: Linus
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He has been an abysmal leader.

Mike Pence for minority leader...

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/08/D8L92CVO1.html
His decision to step down cleared the way for a likely succession battle. Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the majority leader, is expected to run, and Reps. Mike Pence of Indiana and Joe Barton of Texas have also signaled they may make a bid for leadership positions.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
URL: http://inactivist.org
Whoever takes the minority leader position better break down and put together plenty of conservative policy ideas. With only two years in power the Dems won’t have time to garner a culture of corruption—unless they get really corrupt really fast. Better ideas are key.

GOP Congressmen can afford to run against the President on just about every issue except the war and taxes. Maybe they could even call for dropping the Medicare drug plan because we can’t afford it. If the President doesn’t push privatizing Social Security GOP Congressmen should.

Most important, they’ll need to find a way to balance getting things done with the Democratic majority while still being conservative so as to not alienate their base.
 
Written By: Sean Hackbarth
URL: http://www.theamericanmind.com
Who to replace him? Ron Paul! Not sure if that would work out though, given he’s a Libertarian and not a Republican.

What about a name a lot of us have forgotten, namely John Shadegg?
 
Written By: ChrisB
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Hastert gone! pop the Champagne
 
Written By: capt joe
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Whoever takes the minority leader position better break down and put together plenty of conservative policy ideas. With only two years in power the Dems won’t have time to garner a culture of corruption—unless they get really corrupt really fast. Better ideas are key
Bingo! With every crisis also comes opportunity and here’s a good opportunity for the party to get back on their game
 
Written By: shark
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Boehner is the one who put the knife in Denny’s back when the Foley thing got rolling. If I was Hastert the one thing I’d do is take Boehner down with me.
 
Written By: Retief
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I disagree about Hastert. He should be the minority leader. After all, he has worked long and hard to become minority leader. He has earned it.
 
Written By: timactual
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I disagree about Hastert. He should be the minority leader. After all, he has worked long and hard to become minority leader. He has earned it.
If this is being ironic, I find myself unable to see the humor in it.
 
Written By: capt joe
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I disagree about Hastert. He should be the minority leader. After all, he has worked long and hard to become minority leader. He has earned it.
I agree. We should give the longest tenured congresscritter the reins of leadership, no matter how poorly they lead, or what their principles are. It’s all about seniority.

No, wait, that’s the dumbest thing I ever heard. Never mind. (FWIW, I assumed you were kidding too).

Coburn’s release was the first one I read this morning, but it looks like Shadegg and Pence either got the message or were on that page to begin with. I am encouraged by this.
 
Written By: Linus
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"I agree. We should give the longest tenured congresscritter the reins of leadership, no matter how poorly they lead, or what their principles are. It’s all about seniority."

Can we say Bob Dole and how well that worked out for us.

I will shed no tears at Hastert leaving. If he had been more aggressive with Foley rather than doing the bare minimum no matter how much he knew then we may not have had as big a mess as we have. We are republicans our scandals get splashed all over the front page and the slightest wiff of scandal should be looked into especially when talking about adults making children feel uncomfortable. Dont go overboard but dont let the 2 ton shark bite you in the ass 3 weeks before election day.


In addition, the republicans needed to run a better race. They became used to being in power and look what happened. Guess what they can go back to the minority status that Lott was so proud of. We need a good strong leader in the House. Lott and Hastert were both mediocore at best IMO.

 
Written By: retired military
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I don’t know about Pence, but Shadegg is one of the 8 members of the Republican Liberty Caucus (along with Ron Paul)... That’s a good enough credential for me.
 
Written By: Brad Warbiany
URL: http://unrepentantindividual.com/
The results of this election will have as much effect as the one from Tuesday. If the Republicans choose Boahner it will show that they learned nothing from this defeat.
 
Written By: DS
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In addition, the republicans needed to run a better race.
I’d say they really need to get back to being Republicans. A little Reagan attitude combined with true leadership instead of poll based reactions would be nice. Then I could focus on disagreeing with them on some specific items instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
 
Written By: meagain
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Mike Pence - head of the Republican Study Committee...

Some previous posts mentioning Pence and/or Shadegg...

I think true conservatives would be happy with either men leading the party.


http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3242

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=1909

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=2598

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3362

http://www.qando.net/Details.aspx?Entry=3276

http://truthlaidbear.com/gopleadershipquestions.php

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3353

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3260

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=2292
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
URL: http://inactivist.org
Um, for you humor-impaired, focus on this:

...he has worked long and hard to become *minority leader*...
 
Written By: kenB
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Ken, I thought it was humorous, and bled sarcasm. Many seemed to have missed the point, I guess. :-P
 
Written By: Buddy
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Thank you, Mr B. You are a gentleman of discernment and taste.

It could have been worse. Since power corrupts, at least the Republicans weren’t in power long enough to become totally corrupted.
 
Written By: timactual
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