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At some point they’re just plain old noble Americans before we elect, or appoint to, or hire them for, governmental positions aren’t they?
So....they start out as noble Americans?
Must be our form of government that makes them evil?
Which logically means that our form of government is evil itself and warps noble people, which logically, since it’s the form of government we choose would mean we’re choosing evil, which logically means we’re, um, evil ourselves don’t it?
(Look! The government turned one guy into a Newt!)
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I do have a quibble, though not with you McQ. I am not so sure those who say the President of Iran is weak are correct. He can be, but from what I have been hearing that is not so true in this instance. He has accumulated a lot of power relative to previous Presidents and his mentor’s ascent will make him more powerful still. In fact, his influence is part of why Mesbah-Yazdi seems to be getting more powerful. |
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If they admitted he has as much power as he probably does, they’d actually have to consider doing something about him.
Pretending he’s some sort of Iranian high jester and not a real leader is much easier threat assessment. |
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Remember, Bush addressed the ’Iranian people’ at the UN. I’m sure the attempt to undermine the current regime there didn’t pass unnoticed.
It is a war between two individuals, as well as regimes. I’m not sure who wins the ’worst choice of words’ race. |
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I would like to see a strong letter from Bush to the Iranian people in response to the Iranian President’s letter. He could make so many points that would encourage those forces within Iran who have no love for the mullahs. This is a war of IDEAS, and I believe that our ideas are more attractive....but they have to be articulated! |
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While he railed aginst the SSR, talks went on, exhange programs went on, and contacts at all levels went on.
Negotiations take patience, sometimes for decades. Unfortunately, when there is a decisive shift, the talking never gets its due credit. Instead we point to some heroic act or a ’take down this wall’ speech.
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