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Final thoughts on the Foley scandal
Posted by: Jon Henke on Friday, December 15, 2006

As the recent Ethics panel report made obvious, nobody covered themselves in glory during the Foley scandal. However, in light of some of the revelations..
Democratic campaign operatives pushed newspapers to write about then-Rep. Mark Foley's e-mails to teenage pages in the hope that a scandal would emerge before the midterm elections, according to a House ethics report.

The findings were bolstered when an aide to Rep. Rahm Emanuel, Illinois Democrat, said the congressman also knew about the e-mails, which were dubbed "inappropriate" by the ethics panel. Mr. Emanuel, who was chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) when Mr. Foley's sex scandal broke in late September, had denied knowledge of the Florida Republican's e-mails.
...I do have a few observations.

  • Democrats accused Republicans of "putting Party over Predators". Yet, the Democrats shopped the Foley emails to the media instead of the authorities.


  • Howard Dean said that "this is about children, not politics", and that it was "disgraceful that Speaker Hastert and the Republican leadership didn't stand up for our children and do the right thing when they learned about the problem years ago, rather than a week after it became public." Meanwhile, Democratic Congressional leader Rahm Emanuel had "heard of former Rep. Mark Foley's inappropriate e-mails to a former male page a year before they became public".


  • And speaking of people who had the emails prior to the media reports yet failed to act on them, why did John Aravosis of AmericaBlog — who has spared no ire for the Republican failure to investigate and report these emails — fail to report the emails to authorities when he received them "received copies of these emails several months" before the media reports that made them public? Apparently, he didn't even consider them worth passing along to authorities.


  • Where are the calls for "anybody who knew about this and didn't say anything" to resign? I saw a lot of those demands aimed at, e.g., Dennis Hastert — Rahm Emanuel, the Democratic House and Congressional Campaign Committee staffers...not so many.


  • Finally, why did the most damning IMs not come out until after the story hit the media? Why did the page in question release the less egregious emails, but not the IMs? Why withhold the best evidence if you're trying to stop a predator.


While the real story is what Foley did, the way the emails were surreptitiously dribbled out to various media sources rather than to authorities is odd. It would also be interested to learn whether the more damning IMs were genuinely unavailable until after the story broke, or whether they were held for follow-up in order to prolong the news cycle.
 
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While the real story is what Foley did, the way the emails were surreptitiously dribbled out to various media sources rather than to authorities is odd. It would also be interested to learn whether the more damning IMs were genuinely unavailable until after the story broke, or whether they were held for follow-up in order to prolong the news cycle.
While the Republicans may have done a poor job policing it’s own members, the behavior of the Democrats is not at all odd.

It is what fiercely partisan political operatives do to gain political points and do the most damage to the political opposition. It has nothing to do with right or wrong, just the appearance of being holier then thou... Which, far to many people fall for.

I thought the more damaging IMs were from a completely separate young male.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
URL: http://inactivist.org/blog/keith_indy
Democratic campaign operatives pushed newspapers to write about then-Rep. Mark Foley’s e-mails to teenage pages in the hope that a scandal would emerge before the midterm elections, according to a House ethics report.
That’s odd. Here’s the report.

http://www.house.gov/ethics/Page_Report.pdf

Where exactly does it make that claim?
 
Written By: davebo
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I ahve to rule you BOTH Out of Order, Please Do Note:
Final thoughts on the Foley scandal

FINAL, you may not think on it any more....Geeeez doesn’t anyone READ anymore?
 
Written By: Joe
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Where exactly does it make that claim?
Page 76.

"...multiple media organizations who received the e-mails from Matt Miller, the House Democratic Caucus staff member who had received the forwarded e-mails, including the St. Petersburg Times, the Miami Herald, Roll Call, Harper’s Magazine and possibly others".

Miller was the communications guy for the Democratic caucus and he forwarded the emails to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee spokesman Bill Burton, "with the understanding that [Burton] is someone who talks to reporters all day".
 
Written By: Jon Henke
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The original Foley was assassinted in Jordan, it’s amazing how far it goes.
 
Written By: aiew
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The ’K Street’ Republicans freely gave the Democrats a front-page issue, and the Democrats successfully maneuvered the issue until immediately before the elections, with great results.

So? It’s politics. They do it, we do it. Let’s move on...without Foley!
 
Written By: a Duoist
URL: http://www.duoism.org
The Foley case is an example of the "fake scandal" genre.

I’m sure that Foley did everything he was accused of doing, and probably some worse things that have yet to come to light, and the things he was accused of doing are scandalous. The scandal is "fake" in the sense that partisans (in this case, Democrats) elevated this man’s personal vice into an election-year voting issue.
 
Written By: Aldo
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The ’K Street’ Republicans freely gave the Democrats a front-page issue, and the Democrats successfully maneuvered the issue until immediately before the elections, with great results.

So? It’s politics.
Oh, but I thought it was all about "the children."
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
URL: http://asecondhandconjecture.com/
The ’K Street’ Republicans freely gave the Democrats a front-page issue, and the Democrats successfully maneuvered the issue until immediately before the elections, with great results.

So? It’s politics. They do it, we do it. Let’s move on...without Foley!


Something tells me I won’t see this sentiment repeated when the GOP successfully pulls something on a Democrat (and it will happen at some point)

Then it’s going to be long screeds about "the politics of personal destruction" and "the right wing smear machine" or whatever catchy phrase gets distributed via the talking points memo.

 
Written By: shark
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Oh, please -
So, the Democrats can be as manipulative as the the Repullicans. What a shocker!

The biggest outrage was that the main conclusion of the investigarion was that no rules were broken. So, then, everything is just fine and dandy!

You and the ’right’ keep your fingers pointed at the ’left’, and they do the same in reverse, and politics keeps humming along.

This all contributes nothing to real problem solving on any issue at all.
 
Written By: Laime
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"...multiple media organizations who received the e-mails from Matt Miller, the House Democratic Caucus staff member who had received the forwarded e-mails, including the St. Petersburg Times, the Miami Herald, Roll Call, Harper’s Magazine and possibly others".

Hmm. I was aware that Harper’s, Americablog, and others had access to the e-mails early. But I learned that from a Harper’s article arguing that this proved the scandal wasn’t timed to influence the elections — at least not as effectively as it did. The e-mails were first circulated in May to all these people, and if any one of them had decided to run it — Harper’s had a story all written — then it would have been forgotten by November.
 
Written By: Noumenon
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