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Mommy may I?
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, December 21, 2006

Oh please:
Sen. Hillary Clinton told a TV audience of 3 million women Wednesday that the nation has "never had a mother" be president.

Appearing on "The View" to push the 10th anniversary reissue of her book "It Takes a Village," Clinton chatted about family Christmas and raising kids these days.

The former first lady noted, "We've never had a mother who ever ran for or held that position."
We don't need a mommy Ms. Hillary, especially in the presidency. Continue to push this meme and see your negatives get even worse than they are now.
 
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And we do not need a DADDY either.

We deserve effective leaders, no matter what is (or is not) dangling between their legs.
 
Written By: Rick Day
URL: http://goplobby.org
And we do not need a DADDY either.
For once we actually agree.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
BTW, her picture on Newsweek is definitely NOT a mother-figure. More like Great-Grandma if you ask me.
 
Written By: D
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This one made me laugh. Isn’t Hillary the one saying in her book that Mom and Dad do not have responsibility to raise a child. That it is society that should raise children. So why would she now say "I will be your Mommy" if she doesn’t think mom’s are capable enough to raise a child.
 
Written By: SkyWatch
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LOL, people who wouldn’t vote for Hillary if their life depended on it discussing her electability, priceless.

Not that I should I talk, I would vote for her in a primary, if every other Democrat INCLUDING Dennis Kucinich dropped out and George Bush switched parties, amended the Constitution, and ran as her opponent.

Cap
 
Written By: CaptinSarcastic
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The former first lady noted, "We’ve never had a mother who ever ran for or held that position."
As usual, Hillary is running her mouth without checking her facts.

Female Presidential Candidates

Several of these women had children. Hillary would hardly be the first mother to run for President.

Reminds me of when she claimed she was named after Edmund Hillary...who was pretty much unknown in this country unitl some six years after HRC was born.
 
Written By: steverino
URL: http://steverino.journalspace.com/
So what if we’ve never had a mother as a President? It’s not as though we’ve had any shortage of Presidents who acted as if they were everybody’s mommy.
 
Written By: Xrlq
URL: http://xrlq.com/
Who needs a mommy when "IT TAKES A VILLAGE"??

Maybe the Village should be our president, much like we’re all Times’ people of the year.

 
Written By: shark
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PS- If you really want a Mommy President, may I recommend Mayor Bloomberg from NYC?
 
Written By: shark
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So many wisecracks, so little meaning...
... inspite of the fact that there is serious evidence for the critical role women can play in guiding society.

One example: Aid projects in impoverished countries report that giving aid to mothers leads to benefits for the whole community, whereas giving aid to fathers aids only the fathers, not even their children,

Mothers do seem to bring something to the leadership table that testorenone driven men don’t - maybe even a smidgen of common sense.
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Written By: Laime
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So many wisecracks, so little meaning...
... inspite of the fact that there is serious evidence for the critical role women can play in guiding society.
We don’t need a President to guide society, we need a President to head the executive branch of the federal government and conduct foreign policy. So, the thought that no President has been a mother is a non sequitur worthy of a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
One example: Aid projects in impoverished countries report that giving aid to mothers leads to benefits for the whole community, whereas giving aid to fathers aids only the fathers, not even their children,
Which explains why WIC has been so successful in stamping out poverty in the US.
Mothers do seem to bring something to the leadership table that testorenone driven men don’t - maybe even a smidgen of common sense.
Right, right: women are perfect, men are fools. Let us know when you’re ready to engage in serious debate, rather than spew out meaningless platitudes.
 
Written By: steverino
URL: http://steverino.journalspace.com/
Mothers do seem to bring something to the leadership table that testorenone driven men don’t
Boobies?

(Oh no I didn’t!)
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
"Right, right: women are perfect, men are fools. Let us know when you’re ready to engage in serious debate, rather than spew out meaningless platitudes."
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And you call the posts here (indcuding yours) serious debate?
We have a different definition of ’serious’, methinks.

Here’s an indight for you: I wasn’t being all that serious, either.

We might at some point, discuss seriously why so many categories of people (women, atheists, etc.) appear to be unelectable as president in this country. But that would be in another context, requiring seious thought.
 
Written By: Laime
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So many wisecracks, so little meaning...
... inspite of the fact that there is serious evidence for the critical role women can play in guiding society.
Notice how you changed the subject. No one is disputing that women can (and do) play a critical role in guiding society. What is being said though is we don’t need a "mommy" as president. We all get issued one and that’s enough.

We need a leader, regardless of gender.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Mothers do seem to bring something to the leadership table that testorenone driven men don’t - maybe even a smidgen of common sense
What the hell has running the country got to do with being a mother? How about the mom that stuck her kids in the back seat of the car and ran it into the lake? Um, the one that sawed her daughter’s arms off? the mom who drowned her kids in the bath tub? the mom who smashed her kids heads in with the rock?

Still want to talk about mothers, leadership, common sense and make meaningless blanket statements about the mom icon?

And what kind of mom is Hillary? why, the kind that put up with her womanizing husband because she enjoyed the benefits of being Mrs Guv of Arkansas and Mrs President of the United States. What a splendid example she set for women, including her own daughter eh? Stay with your oft straying husband if there’s profit in it for you dearie, look what it did for me!
We might at some point, discuss seriously why so many categories of people (women, atheists, etc.) appear to be unelectable as president in this country. But that would be in another context, requiring seious thought.
A woman as President is not a problem, I expect to see it in my lifetime. Hillary just isn’t that woman, for any number of reasons, and her inability to control Bill is low on that list of reasons.
 
Written By: looker
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My own distaste for Hillary can be pretty much summed up in her own words:
“Many of you are well enough off that…the tax cuts may have helped you. We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
This is merely a mild version of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." I can’t see any significant difference between those sentiments.

And we know how Marx’s version worked out.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
URL: http://
And we know how Marx’s version worked out.
We sure do, Billy: it was never tried by the right people, so it never worked. That’s why we have to try it here, because we’re the ones who can make it work.

As far as I can tell, that’s the unspoken logic in the arguments for creeping socialism.
And you call the posts here (indcuding yours) serious debate?
We have a different definition of ’serious’, methinks.
My seriousness will rise to the level of the post in question. Hillary’s statements don’t deserve anything more than ridicule.
 
Written By: steverino
URL: http://steverino.journalspace.com/
Well, well, well! I guess you don’t like Hillary.

I would wager that if she had expressed a preference for daisies, you would all line up to denounce her for her choice of flower.

I just think you are all reading waaaay too much in her statement, as is par for the course in political blogs.

While many of you express a willigness to accept a woman president sometine in the future, I think it says something unflattering about our society that that isn’t about to happen any time soon. We still need our ’daddy’, it appears, trotting out the wife and adorable children as he heads off to church.
The president’s wife, of course, has to stick to ’safe’ areas of interest. I’ve often felt that Laura Bush would be a far more interesting personality than her husband, were she ever allowed to be her own person.
The women still need to know their place, while daddy takes care of the serious stuff.



 
Written By: Laime
URL: http://
By the way, I agree with Hillary:

It DOES take a village to raise MY child. Damn is she a handful. Forget fusion, solar, or wind power, let’s find a way to plug 2 year olds into the grid.

On a more serious note, Thatcher, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi...seems like a lot of these mother type leaders also are pretty macho when it comes to wars.
 
Written By: Harun
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I would wager that if she had expressed a preference for daisies, you would all line up to denounce her for her choice of flower.
Well, no. But since she has expressed a pretty clear preference for socialism, I do denounce her for her choice of political philsophy.

And if you’ve got a serious argument to make on that score, let’s hear it. Because going on about our motivations for disliking Hillary, without refuting any of the reasons we’ve put forth, is a classic logical fallacy. So if you can leave out all the purported sexism, for which you have no evidence except your own imagination, then let’s hear some real reasons why we should take Hillary seriously.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
URL: http://
I would wager that if she had expressed a preference for daisies, you would all line up to denounce her for her choice of flower.
If her "daisies" looked anything like this ...

“Many of you are well enough off that…the tax cuts may have helped you. We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”

... you can bet your boots on it.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
"I do denounce her for her choice of political philsophy"
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Well, she’s a Demccrat, so I wouldn’t expect anything less on this site.
To defend her would mean to enter into a whole Republican/Democrat vortex and hardly worth the effort in this atmosphere.
Besides, I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat, nor am I a fan of Ms. Clinton’s.

If you don’t like Democrats on principle, that’s your privilege. If you don’t like Hillary Clinton, that’s your privilege.

But all this hysteria over a silly sentence of hers strikes me as, well, silly. No, actually, it’s more than silly; it expresses hatred of people with whom you disagree, and that’s something I denounce most emphatically.
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MCQ,
at least you bring up something more substantial to disagree with than the original statement. I’ll give you 5 pts.
But, I’ll take away 2 pts if you verge from disagreement with her political views and cross over into hating her as a person.
After the last election, I’ve really had it with political hatred. Don’t we have enough criminals and suicide bombers to hate without turning to mere political opponents?

And with that thought,
Happy Holidays!

 
Written By: Laime
URL: http://
HARUN:
"Thatcher, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi...seems like a lot of these mother type leaders also are pretty macho when it comes to wars"
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Yeah, I started to think about that.

I guess they felt they were protecting their young, something about which all mothers can be ferocious.

 
Written By: Laime
URL: http://
But, I’ll take away 2 pts if you verge from disagreement with her political views and cross over into hating her as a person.
Any assumptions made about me hating anyone are all in your head, Laime. I don’t hate her as a person. I have no reason too. Don’t mistake strongly stated political disagreement with hate.

I’ve noticed you’ve attempted that leap before. Makes it easy to dismiss arguments instead of addressing them, doesn’t it?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Mommy with a mailed fist and an iron boot, that is. Scary Mommy.
 
Written By: Bilwick
URL: http://
The women still need to know their place, while daddy takes care of the serious stuff.
This sounds like an issue you have, not me.

I always thought Barbara Bush would have made a more kick a** President than her husband did.

This Dad/Mom thing you have is interesting.
But see, what we’re talking about is the LEADER of the United States here, not Dad or Mom.
Suggest some other women as President and I’ll give you my feeling on capable or not.

Hillary has demonstrated not, could she do the job, yeah, I think she could, but it’s how SHE would do the job that troubles me, not that she is a "she".
If you can’t make that distinction between Hillary being a ’she’ and Hillary being a President I wouldn’t want, than I can’t help you out.

In the spirit of the season though, Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, whichever suits your fancy.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
I am sorry that Mrs, Clinton ever used that title. That proverb was not meant to diminish the parents responsibility in raising a child; but acknowledges that a child needs to have more that it is not possible for the parents to fulfill. I Assume that everyone has had a favorite teacher, has fond memories of a grandparent, remember the neighbor that kept an eye on you. For thousands of years, extended families help raise children, only now has the nuclear family become the symbol of the good family. Didn’t the nuclear family raise the counterculture?
 
Written By: VRB
URL: http://hathor-sekhmet.blogspot.com
"As usual, Hillary is running her mouth without checking her facts."

You expect accuracy or honesty from a Clinton?
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What, no "Mommy Dearest" references?
 
Written By: timactual
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