Perhaps MK-Ultra could contact the NC State Bar and explain to them that they just don’t understand the brilliance of Mr. Nifong’s tactics.
I think Mr. Ultra addressed that issue with McQ here:You don’t know the first thing about being a lawyer. |
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Perhaps MK-Ultra could contact the NC State Bar and explain to them that they just don’t understand the brilliance of Mr. Nifong’s tactics. I will make the points I have made before:
1) This site supports politicians who actively oppose vigorous enforcement of the rights of the accused.
2) Not one of the trio of the posters on this site has ever tried a criminal case, and would sh*t their pants if they ever had to stand up in front of a jury and had to say something that matters.
Dale, admit it. You hate the Bill of Rights. You hate the criminal scum and their defense attorneys. You hate trial lawyers. You hate how the criminal scum takes advantage of the constitution by asserting their innocence and exercising their right to their scummy defense counsel.
Admit it Dale. You hate them. And worse, you hate it when someone who actually gives a sh*t about the Bill of Rights is amoral enough to agree that Nifong did the tactically correct thing by not talking directly to the crazy victim, which is the only thing I ever said he was correct in doing. And I have explained my reasoning before too. I explained that no smart lawyer in a high profile case ever talks directly to a star witness. And my explnation went way over you head.
I’m not blaming you for that. After all, you don’t know sh*t about what lawyers do. So how could I blame you?
Now, I could say something nasty. I could say that I bet you a nickel that if three black football players from Duke were accused of raping a white girl, you would have gotten my point immediately. I could say something nasty like that. But I won’t. Because I don’t think deep down anyone who posts on this site is actually racist. I don’t think Jon is racist just because he worked for Allen, even starting after "Macaca.". And I don’t think you or McQ are racists even though you seem fixated on the Duke case where three white young men are accused of raping a black woman, and even though civil rights violations don’t usually gain your attention.
I don’t think you are racist. I just know that you lack judgment.
And I won’t say that you’re all racists because I have too much respect for all of you.
And I really don’t care if you continue to misrepresent what I said. After all, to me, Nifong is just another redneck. Indeed, this could be my Nixon to China moment. Maybe I gain some credibility here if I am perceived as defending him. After all, defending just another sorry example of corruption in the Old Confederacy might gain me some street cred on this site.
But I do thank you for mentioning me in your post.
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mkultra, since you appear to be holier, wiser and just an all-around better person than any of the Q&O bloggers, would Deputy DA Patrick Frey be able to convince you that maybe it’s a good idea to talk to the "victim" before filing charges?Thank you for making people believe it’s standard procedure not to talk to a rape victim before filing charges. My wife has been filing rape cases for years, and she always interviews the victim first. This is standard procedure in our office — and it means a lot of cases don’t get filed, because they can’t be proved.
But thanks to you, Mr. Nifong, the public thinks prosecutors file these cases blindly. Thank you. I think you do yourself no credit mkultra when you foolishly accuse a bunch of libertarians of not caring about the Bill of Rights in a case where the facts are so outrageous that anyone aside from a klukker would decry the handling of the case.
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After all, to me, Nifong is just another redneck.
Someone please send him a sign, "Kiss me, I’m a bigot". |
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MK is being unfairly accused of defending NiFong on more points than he actually did, but I have very, very little pity after nonsense like this...This site supports politicians who actively oppose vigorous enforcement of the rights of the accused. ... Dale, admit it. You hate the Bill of Rights. You hate the criminal scum and their defense attorneys. You hate trial lawyers. You hate how the criminal scum takes advantage of the constitution by asserting their innocence and exercising their right to their scummy defense counsel. That makes it hard to weep bitter tears of regret that MK has been mischaracterized and unfairly attacked. |
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MK has been mischaracterized and unfairly attacked Actually, I’m fairly certain most of the people reading QandO realize MK didn’t defend Nifong beyond his "smart" refusal to interview the "victim." It’s just fun to tweak MK after all the times he’s mischaracterized everyone else (which, let’s face it, is almost every time he writes a comment). How’s it feel MK? |
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Oh, I forgot to mention that I remember MK linking to the North Carolina Bar as part of his defense of Nifong. Delicious irony! |
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Maybe I gain some credibility here Nah, not much chance of that (unless I was to come down with a case of rabies). |
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And I won’t say that you’re all racists because I have too much respect for all of you. BWAH HA HA!
Ending the old year with the same old MK lies... |
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Well, at least mayhap we can move on from "removing immunity" from prosecutors, now. Looks like Nifong has problems of his own. He most likely is going to have to recuse himself from the case, if he doesn’t I think he’s going to have MORE problems.
I didn’t read MK’s comments so I really ought not to comment, but I will…To an extent MK is right. Nifong WAS being a smart prosecutor. He was busy inflaming the public, charging things left and right, dragging the whole Lacrosse Team thru the mud, with an EXCELLENT strategy. “I am going to charge you and try you and get you sentenced to 50 years for something you did NOT do, UNLESS you roll over on your team mates; in which case they get 50 years and your get 10 years for something you did NOT do.” It seems a standard prosecutor approach. In this case it failed and has rebounded against Nifong because: 1) the case was EXTREMELY flimsy 2) the defendants could afford attorneys NOT from the PD’s Office, but decent attorneys. Had this been a slightly stronger case and it been three OTHER guys, Bubba, Roy, and Jeff or Lemonghello, Dwayne, and Manuel it might have worked, because the PD’s WOULDN’T have been able to mount as effective a defense and WOULD have been inclined to urge their clients to “take the deal.” Because Nifong wasn’t dealing with three “Average Joe’s” but three Upper Class Joes he underestimated his opponent(s). Now he pays the price….
I don’t mean to clear Nifong here, but as Shark says, “Trial is war. Second Place is Death.” Courts are about WINNING, not Justice. When you view the case in that light, Nifong’s strategy makes sense. He failed, in that he failed to observe Sun Tzu’s dictum, “To know yourself AND your enemy.” Anyone who thinks that courts of law aren’t about winning and efficiency and “quarterback ratings” has watched WAY TOO MUCH Perry Mason. It’s not Nifong’s job to produce justice, but to produce CONVICTIONS. Just like Cochran et al. weren’t in it to find the REAL Killer(s) but clear OJ. Again as James Woods says, “Justice is God’s problem.” So to an extent MK is correct, Nifong did do some smart “lawyering”. Now, MK thinks, it seems, that it was GOOD lawyering, too, when instead it was just smart lawyering…Clarence Darrow being a “Good Lawyer” and Nifong being the “Smart One”….
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Not one of the trio of the posters on this site has ever tried a criminal case, and would sh*t their pants if they ever had to stand up in front of a jury and had to say something that matters. *snort*
And how full would your pants be, MK, if you ever had to do half of the things that McQ’s done during his time in service?
And that’s just the briefings to high-level officers and leading PT in the mornings, much less being shot at. |
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Now, I could say something nasty. I could say that I bet you a nickel that if three black football players from Duke were accused of raping a white girl, you would have gotten my point immediately. I could say something nasty like that. But I won’t. Because I don’t think deep down anyone who posts on this site is actually racist. I don’t think Jon is racist just because he worked for Allen, even starting after "Macaca.". And I don’t think you or McQ are racists even though you seem fixated on the Duke case where three white young men are accused of raping a black woman, and even though civil rights violations don’t usually gain your attention.
I don’t think you are racist. I just know that you lack judgment.
And I won’t say that you’re all racists because I have too much respect for all of you. That’s a lot of text to state something that you don’t really believe. I believe that you’re lying. |
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Wow. This may be the first web "chickenprosecutor" attack.
At any rate, here’s an actual prosecutor saying many of the same things that McQ is saying: http://anklebitingpundits.com/content/index.php?p=1468
And is anyone else sensing the tension between MK’s supposed burning support for the right’s of the accused, and support for Nifong’s "tactical decision" to withhold evidence (known in common parlance as a Brady violation). |
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Awww come on lads - MK doesn’t get that the gripes about the case and Nifong here had virtually nothing to do with skin color, and everything to do with evidence.
But when you come in with a good set of pre-conceptions there’s no point in disgarding them, regardless of the day to day evidence presented to the contrary.
Kind of like Nifong and this case. |
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"And I won’t say that you’re all racists because I have too much respect for all of you."
Ah, you say that now, but will you respect us in the morning? |
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