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"First a Fair Trial, Then a Hangin’"
Posted by: Dale Franks on Thursday, December 28, 2006

Apparently, Iraq doesn't have an equivalent of the Ninth Circuit when it comes to carrying out death sentences. No 15-year appeal drag-out for them. According to MSNBC, they're ready to hang Saddam before the Eid observance begins on Sunday.
Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, sentenced to death for his role in 148 killings in 1982, will have his sentence carried out by Sunday, NBC News reported Thursday. According to a U.S. military officer who spoke on condition of anonymity, Saddam will be hanged before the start of the Eid religious holiday, which begins at sundown Saturday.

The hanging could take place as early as Friday, NBC’s Richard Engel reported.

The U.S. military received a formal request from the Iraqi government to transfer Saddam to Iraqi authorities, NBC reported on Thursday, which is one of the final steps required before his execution. His sentence, handed down last month, ordered that he be hanged within 30 days.
No doubt, Saddam will refuse to accept the result of the hanging. For all the good it'll do 'im.

Hey, Saddam, be sure to say "Hi!" to Joe, 'Dolph, Benito, and the rest of the boys, OK?
 
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Ironically, this post follows the one about Nifong. Here, your implicit complaint is that the rights of the accused are too vigorously enforced by the courts, hence your reference to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. A court you most obviously don’t understand (it is politically diverse - ever hear of Kozinski?), or its politics.

The Ninth Circuit, under your stereotypical view, is pro-accused.

Let’s assume that is true. Therefore, given your assumption, the Ninth Circuit would be the court that would most vigorously defend the rights of the accused. Therefore, the Ninth Circuit would be the court most likely to vigorously defend the rights of the accused in the Duke case, a cause you seem to believe in.

So you prefer that the rights of the accused are being vindicated in the Duke case, but you hate the court that would most vigorously do it.

I see.

There is a word for someone who says one thing but believes another. To apply it to you would be generous. By the way, does your knee hurt when it jerks? Just wondering.
 
Written By: mkultra
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That old Saddam, he sure is a Swinger!

Hey MK, do you ever just go through one day without getting your panties in a twist? Must suck to be you.
 
Written By: kyle N
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How many country leaders in the past 50 years collaborated with the US and later were killed or removed by the US?
 
Written By: kindlingman
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Here, your implicit complaint is that the rights of the accused are too vigorously enforced by the courts
That’s not what he implied at all. You have become so pathetic that I don’t even feel the need to explain things to you anymore. You keep implying that you know the law, but you don’t come out and say you are a lawyer. I guess you couldn’t make it into law school. I don’t wonder why.
 
Written By: JWG
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Dr. WMD was freed by the Iraqi courts and a deal with Plame’s CIA. No one knows where she is, she ran the lab that created the WMD.

Maybe Saddam made the wrong deal when he went to University in the States and school. Other leaders who made deals with the US are going to go the same way, especially the royals.
 
Written By: Aoer
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How many country leaders in the past 50 years collaborated with the US and later were killed or removed by the US?
We’re a whimsical bunch that way
 
Written By: shark
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By the way, does your knee hurt when it jerks?
You would definitely know that the answer to that one given your propensity to talk out of all sides of your mouth (and ass).
 
Written By: capt joe
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Dale:

1. Please wipe the spittle from your monitor so you can see my words: nothing will change as a result of this hanging. Can we say empty vengeance?

2. Your title is diametrically opposite your post. Your title accurately mocks this farce of a trial. Indeed, it was ’trial/guilt/death’ from the get-go. When things did not suit the US handlers, they would, oh, change judges because the judge dared show impartiality.

3. Hussein is more like Noriega than Hitler. Hussein had no brilliant military strategy. He had no ’world conquering agenda’ as did Mussolini and Hitler. Should you be hung for violating Godwin’s Law.

4. You fail to grasp the inherent dangers, in this fundamental precedent, that was established; a pattern that includes invasion, seizure, trial and execution of a few individuals for the crimes of perhaps thousands. Would you hold the President equally responsible for the crimes of our soldiers who have murdered and raped?

Iranian or Kurd, those chemicals were meant to kill humans and we helped Hussein develop the program. Do we bear any responsibility for indirectly supplying the development of the very chemicals that were used to carry out the crimes alleged?

I am no fan of Hussein, but I do believe in due process. This entire thing stinks from the WMD threat on. This entire Iraq debacle has left my patriotic spirit polluted with a thin coat of oil sludge.

That you are a small government conservative who not only accepts, but embraces surrendering to government the power of murder, is beyond my comprehension. Yes, I am pro-life when it comes to death penalty issues. Even scumbags like Saddam Hussein.

IMHO, we have set a dangerous precedent by invading, deposing and executing tin-star threats. I fear one day this will backlash, and a kidnapped or captured future president or VP may be facing the very same railroad justice we afforded Mr. Hussein.

Of course, if it were President Hillary, you guys would supply the rope and champagne.
 
Written By: Rick Day
URL: http://goplobby.org
nothing will change as a result of this hanging
Phew Rick! Saddam will certainly be happy to hear this!
Iranian or Kurd, those chemicals were meant to kill humans and we helped Hussein develop the program. Do we bear any responsibility for indirectly supplying the development of the very chemicals that were used to carry out the crimes alleged?
Well, I don’t know Rick - we’ve developed a slew of nukes and after using them on Japan, we pretty much have been able to restrain our primitive urges to turn other cities into smouldering mounds of rubble, so I’d go with, no we’re not responsible for him using the weapons on civilians, that was a choice he made (yeah yeah, I know he didn’t do it....and using that argument George Bush isn’t REALLY responsible for anything in Iraq, it’s his underlings and troops that are making all the bad decisions and mistakes.)

Meanwhile - are you people seriously on here defending the right of an Iraqi court to sentence Saddam Hussein, seriously?

If you’re contending that everyone deserves to live then (even guys like Saddam), well, not much is going to convince you otherwise, so stop pretending it’s about Q and O and anything Dale says.
 
Written By: looker
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1. Please wipe the spittle from your monitor so you can see my words: nothing will change as a result of this hanging.
So Saddam is going to stay alive? WOW!

Saddam f*cked with us, f*cked with lots of people. It is a good precedent to see him- who once relaxed in luxury palaces and dumped in golden toilets- plucked from a rathole and hung. If that’s empty vengence, so be it. Nothing beats vengence for getting back at people (though revenge is also good)

Buh-bye!
 
Written By: shark
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This entire Iraq debacle has left my patriotic spirit polluted with a thin coat of oil sludge.
Oh please. "Patriotic spirit" BWAH HA HA!

 
Written By: shark
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Rick Day you’re an IDIOT...Get past the talking points, Man.
2. ... Indeed, it was ’trial/guilt/death’ from the get-go. When things did not suit the US handlers, they would, oh, change judges because the judge dared show impartiality.
Uh Rick, are you trying to tell me that Huseein had NO part in the War(s) of Agrgression waged by Iraq on its neighbors? That he had NO part in the genocide and Crimes against Humanity his regime inflicted upon its OWN People? I’m sorry Rick, what OTHER conclusion could the court ANY court have reached in re: Saddam Hussein? That argument that this is "Victor’s Justice" doesn’t ring so true in the face of the Mass Graves and Torture Rooms, does it?
3. Hussein is more like Noriega than Hitler. Hussein had no brilliant military strategy. He had no ’world conquering agenda’ as did Mussolini and Hitler. Should you be hung for violating Godwin’s Law.
So there you go... ONLY Hitler deserved trial and execution. Is that where you set the bar. UNLESS you start a war that kills 30-50 million people AND commit genocide you can’t be tried? So domestically we ought only try the Gotti’s and Ted Bundy’s, right? After all the rest of the criminals PALE in comparison, right? I don’t care if Saddam wanted to own the world and eliminate ALL Jews or if he only wanted to dominate the Persian Gulf and make sure his Family and then his tribe were supreme in the region, it was all STILL a crime.
4. You fail to grasp the inherent dangers, in this fundamental precedent, that was established; a pattern that includes invasion, seizure, trial and execution of a few individuals for the crimes of perhaps thousands.
A variant of unless we try EVERYONE we try NO ONE? Note we ARE trying others of this regime. Just as we tried others for the acts committed during the Third Reich. This isn’t scape-goating Saddam this is finding him guilty of a TITHE of the crimes he committed!

Would you hold the President equally responsible for the crimes of our soldiers who have murdered and raped?
Yeah I would IF you could show that the President ORDERED the "murders" and "rapes." Sadly, in this case we can’t hold Dubya guilty of that, but we CAN hold Saddam guilty of it. You know, the ORDERING the atrocities....
Iranian or Kurd, those chemicals were meant to kill humans and we helped Hussein develop the program. Do we bear any responsibility for indirectly supplying the development of the very chemicals that were used to carry out the crimes alleged?
Oh SIGH, Rick, please not this old chestnut. Tell RICK, my man have you actually READ anything not put out by Ramsey Clark? Look at Saddam’s arsenal, the planes are French and Russian, the rest of the gear, Russian or Chinese. The WMD’s were provided by technical asstance from: GERMANY, HOLLAND, ITALY, and FRANCE. Sorry Rick, but the Good Ole’ US of A DIDN’T HELP CREATE SADDAM. Nice talking point, though. Sadly as is the case with so many of the "Talking Points" it’s absolutely FALSE.
I am no fan of Hussein, but I do believe in due process. This entire thing stinks from the WMD threat on. This entire Iraq debacle has left my patriotic spirit polluted with a thin coat of oil sludge.
I’m sure it did, I’m SURE you felt the same way in 1998, too, right? You know the time CLINTON bombed them?
That you are a small government conservative who not only accepts, but embraces surrendering to government the power of murder, is beyond my comprehension.

Being a SAMLL Government type does NOT mean that the government can utilize the Death Penalty. This is an unfounded assertion. One can easily say that one believes in a LIMITED government, limited in size and scope, AND STILL BELIEVE IN CAPTIAL PUNISHMENT. Because within it’s size and scope the Stae could, philosophically, claim all power and the right to kill. You make assumptions aobut the proponents of Limited Government that are UNWARRANTED.
Yes, I am pro-life when it comes to death penalty issues. Even scumbags like Saddam Hussein.
This is the ONLY GOOD THING YOU"VE SAID, in this little rant. At the end of the day, NO ONE, not even HITLER, deserves the Death Penalty. But I say that on the basis of my Catholicism, not on my claims to being for or agains the size of the State. It IS murder, but not for the reasons you adduce...your reasons are just fluff designed to vilify your political/philosphic opponents.
IMHO, we have set a dangerous precedent by invading, deposing and executing tin-star threats. I fear one day this will backlash, and a kidnapped or captured future president or VP may be facing the very same railroad justice we afforded Mr. Hussein.
Well first off, if we lose I’d expect it. Secondly, you then oppose the occupation, De-Nazification and the trials in Post-War Germany? Because if what happened in Iraq is wrong I can only assume what happened 1945-48 was EQUALLY wrong? OR are you going to explicitly fall back on the "Hitler set the bar" argument, only Fascist dictators with Jew blood and mutli-million death counts get Justice? Thirdly, IF the US President or VP were guilty of only 1/10th of Hussein’s crimes, I’d support it.
Of course, if it were President Hillary, you guys would supply the rope and champagne.
Well of COURSE, because well we’re all just Right-Wing Death Beasts (RWDB) here and haters, and of course we FEAR powerful womyn, too.
 
Written By: Joe
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Should you be hung for violating Godwin’s Law.
Is that a statement or question.?

Also do you consider that a hangin’ offense?

One last question. Are you absolutely completely a flying fruit and nut bar?

Thanks and good day
 
Written By: capt joe
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shark.

your pathetic attacks are weak and stale. Please use fresh mack when belitting others opinions.

Thx,

RD
 
Written By: Rick Day
URL: http://goplobby.org
and "mao". have saddam not forget to say hi to "mao" when he gets to hell. what the heck? poor old mao killed lots more innocent unarmed civilians than joe or adolf or pol ever did.....and still he gets no respect. and mussolini? tchah! he only killed enough italians to get the trains to run on time. mao killed WAAAY more than that dude....

no respect. noooooooo respect.

it’s hard out there for a (psychotic sociopathic red chinese) pimp, know what i’m sayin’?
 
Written By: ed
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your pathetic attacks are weak and stale. Please use fresh mack when belitting others opinions
Um.....ok?
 
Written By: shark
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I’ll be happy to tranlate Rick’s stuff for you, shark. To paraphrase Barbara Billingsly in "Airplane", "I speak delusional leftish".
your pathetic attacks are weak and stale.
Translation: "I have no answer to them. I can’t possibly admit that, so I’ll use a generic insult that doesn’t mean anything. Let’s see... Ah, generic insult #47, weak and stale. That’ll do."
Please use fresh mack when belitting others opinions.
Translation: "I need something else to go with the weak and stale thing, just to try and make shark angry, so he’ll overlook the fact that I can’t answer his arguments. Hmmm. I’d like to say he should get fresh meat, but that would insult Gaia’s animal creatures. I’ll just make something up that sounds kind of like that. ’Fresh mack’. Yeah, that sounds obscure enough. Besides, I’m losing my mind debating these guys, so I’d better get something out there quickly. ’Fresh mack’ will do. With any luck, he’ll be confused enough that he’ll give up debating. And that means I win!"


 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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Thanks for the clarification Billy. I was wondering why he wanted me to get fresh mackerel...
 
Written By: shark
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"mack" hmmmmmmm Shark, Billy, I’m not sure but it could be that by disregarding and/or mocking the truth and value of this, presumably adjective type word, you’re committing some sort of ethnic gaffe.

Hey, it could be worse, he could have channeled Darth Vader -
"your powers are weak old man"

 
Written By: looker
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Hey, it could be worse, he could have channeled Darth Vader -
"your powers are weak old man"
What’s that supposed to mean? I LIKE Darth Vader, are you saying it’s wrong to channel him? I know I’m sure not giving up my black cape and water glass and fake James Earl Jones voice...
"I find your lack of faith...disturbing."
 
Written By: Joe
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...you’re committing some sort of ethnic gaffe.
Are you saying that we’re alluding to "mack caca"? That was unintentional! Please don’t tell the Washington Post we said anything.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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What’s that supposed to mean? I LIKE Darth Vader, are you saying it’s wrong to channel him?
I am no fan of Vader’s, but I do believe in due process! This entire thing stinks, from the Death Star threat on. This entire Death Star destruction debacle has left my patriotic spirit polluted with a thin coat of mitoclorian sludge.
 
Written By: looker
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Are you saying that we’re alluding to "mack caca"
And queue MK, enter, stage left....
 
Written By: meagain
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This entire Death Star destruction debacle has left my patriotic spirit polluted with a thin coat of mitoclorian sludge
And thus, the post of the year sneaks in at the end....
 
Written By: shark
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I would point out that Vader and Palpatine were only INDIVIDUALS and to hold them in anyway responsible for the actions of THOUSANDS seems somehow wrong. After all the Death Star had tens of thousands of crewpersons at Alderaan and are we trying them all? Further, what of Yoda and Obi Wan did they not CREATE Darth Vader? So once he becomes "inconvenient" and begins to act on his own, suddenly the puppetmasters move to dethrone him! I feel we need to examine, more closely, the role that the Jedi Knights and the Republic had in the creation of Vader. But let Dale have his spittle-flecked rant and believe he has supported the cause of "Good", when this is such a simplisme term. I think it is better to simply say, History is written by the Victors or at least George Lucas."
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
Joe, don’t forget that Obi Wan lied to Luke about his father. Obi Wan lied, storm troopers died.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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Good point Billy...
 
Written By: Joe
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It’s done....he’s dead.
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
2007...."New and Improved!" Now Saddam Free!

I await the video on Youtube. CNN has said they wouldn’t show it. They can show a sniper killing a US soldier but not Saddam getting his just reward.

Creeps.
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
"your pathetic attacks are weak and stale"

I seem to remember this line spoken by bad guys on half a dozen Saturday morning cartoon shows.

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"What’s that supposed to mean? I LIKE Darth Vader, are you saying it’s wrong to channel him?................................................................."

Aaarrgh!
 
Written By: timactual
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