And possibly it shows that MIT Romney and one from watching the effects of such antigun legislation as he’s been willing to promote.
I can live with someone who’s willing to learn.
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I said it before and I’ll say it again...it’s not being a MORMON that’s going to trip up Romney, it’s ROMNEY’S previous positions that are going to trip up Romney.
He was Governor of a very Blue state, it’s not unlikely that that isn’t going to lead to many "Clarifications" and/or "growth." We’ll see if he gets labelled "Flip-Flopper" or if he gets credit for "honesty" and "Growth." |
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Ah, Massachusetts and it’s FID’s, how I fondly remember being bullied out of the local police station trying to find out HOW to get one at age 18. |
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Al Gore lost his "home" state of Tennesse due to this stand on guns.
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On a national level, guns are off the table, they have been since 1994. That doesn’t stop the NRA from using scare tactics in their communications with members.With Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) taking power as Speaker of the House, and with committee chairmen like arch anti-Second Amendment foe John Conyers (D-Mich.) at the helm of the Judiciary Committee, and Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) running the Government Reform Committee, I have no doubt we will be facing serious legislative threats from gun-ban groups pressing the House of Representatives in the weeks and months to come. The Second Amendment, because judicial rulings can easily fall on either side of the issue, does not protect the right to own guns, I think that has been well established. Public opinion is protecting the right to own guns, and politicians are not going to change public opinion, but they will roll with it.
What we need to worry about are events that change public opinion about guns and make this issue a political winner again.
If Romney is in a fight with someone who has always been pro-gun, this will of course be used against him, regardless of his current positions. He was for gun control before he was against it. The soundbite works better than a reasoned evolution of an opinion.
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does not protect the right to own guns, I think that has been well established Actually Captin, no you do have an individual right to own a gun...Miller established that, though it did hold for the government’s ability to legislate on the KINDS of firearms you could own, in that case it was sub-machine guns, IIRC. I’m sure Dale or one of the other "gun nuts" will be glad to enlighten both of us. Bottom-Line: the SCOTUS hasn’t really addressed the 2nd in 70-80 years but it did NOT invalidate the idea of an individual right.
You are correct, in that this is also a matter of Public Policy. I take it you believe Gun Control is GOOD public policy, even in the face of findings that demonstarte NO DEMONSTRABLE GOOD FROM GUN CONTROL? You don’t have to buy Lott’s arguments that private and widespread firearm ownership is a POSITIVE GOOD, the Federal Government simply can find no evidence thast Gun Control has ANY effect, good or ill....So I think if you’re suggesting Gun Control is a good thing, you can’t demonstrate it. That seems akin to saying that "Rain Dances" are good for climate modification and we need more of them, even though we can demonstrate no effect for them. |
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I take it you believe Gun Control is GOOD public policy, even in the face of findings that demonstarte NO DEMONSTRABLE GOOD FROM GUN CONTROL? I don’t know how you could make this assumption. Look at the comment you are responding you...What we need to worry about are events that change public opinion about guns and make this issue a political winner again. I am saying that if public opinion turned toward favoring gun control, there is enough of a legal basis for the courts to approve the Constitutionality of such laws and THAT is something to worry about.
I say "worry about" because I although I disagree with people who think that the 2nd Amendment is a closed argument, I do NOT want to see more gun control and I do not want to see the federal government involved in the issue at all.
I guess you could say that I am anti-gun control, but not religiously adherent to the idea that the 2nd Amendment actually protects gun rights.
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What we need to worry about are events that change public opinion about guns and make this issue a political winner again. Aaaah, I see...My bad...I think.... |
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It strikes me that Romney is conservative, and liberal, in just about every way which should be anathema to libertarians. The worst kind of each. |
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