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WHy should our intel agencies bother with something as trivial as China? They have important Iraq/WoT stories to leak in their fight against the administration... |
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On a more to the point issue, does anyone know the capability of our anti-Sat arsenal (do we even have one? I’d have just assumed we had some capability because that would make sense) |
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Wait a minute, I thought we (the USA) were the only ones in the world allowed to do stuff like this??!! I thought space belonged to us? www.minor-ripper.blogspot.com |
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According to the technothrillers and science fiction I’ve read, taking out a satellite requires merely the ability to loft a load to its orbit. Dump a load of double-ought buckshot in its path and when it passes thru the cloud one or two objects are bound to hit something critical. |
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Projected US Air Force capabilities for space-based warfare are summed up nicely, here. I suggest that this plan is intended to update, rather than replace, existing Air Force ASAT missiles and their associated weapons platforms and guidance systems [presumably the F-15, as bombers are, with the possible exception of the B-1, incapable of demonstrating the necessary flight characteristics for launch [I assume that the USAF has plans to modify the F-22 to assume this duty from the aging F-15 fleet]).
A full copy of the official 2003 Air Force future planning document may be viewed here.
Notice that waaayy back in 2003, "defense experts" were predicting the Chinese and Russian development of ASAT’s. Do the intel analysts at the Central (Lack) of Intelligence Agency and NSA (No Such Agency) even bother to read such reports? For goodness’ sake, Sun Tzu discussed the failure of intelligence 2,000 years ago. Have we still not caught on? Let’s see, Tet Offensive (nope), fall of Berlin Wall (nope), collapse of Soviet Union (nope), 9/11 (nope), Chinese launch of ASAT missile (nope). So that’s bad guys 5, CIA/NSA/DIA 0. Time to play a little catch-up, don’t you think? |
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The Poet Omar
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Well I hope that saner heads prevail and the US avoids Militarizing Space. I think ANY US action in this area will only lead to a backlash that will hurt the US, in both the short- and long-run...
Getting in Dr. Erb’s points so he doesn’t have to take time from his busy schedule. |
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Dump a load of double-ought buckshot in its path and when it passes thru the cloud one or two objects are bound to hit something critical. Actually, it doesn’t matter whether something critical is hit or not. Those satellites hurdle along at several thousand miles per hour. At that speed, even a pebble can cause catastrophic damage. |
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Er, hurdle = hurtle. |
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Jordan
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One thing for all your "0-0" shot fans out there...The shot keeps moving for some distance, meaning that the buckshot you put up is a threat to ANY satellite in that path...to include US ones.
Really a Chinese ASAT works to THEIR advantage more than a US one works to OURS. After all, if you removed all satellites from orbit PRC, US, anyone’s, via magic or ASATS, who would suffer the most in a regional war around the PRC, centred on Korea, Japan or Taiwan...the US. Fact of the matter is, we need them more and the PRC needs them less. So even with an ASAT on our side, we are in a worse position as we rely on satellites more. Just a fact of life, so the US really needs to develop stealthing, maneuvering capacities, hardened communications, and system security, more than it needs an ASAT capacity. I freely admit I could be wrong about that...but that’s how it seems to me. |
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My analysis for MSNBC.COM’s space page suggests that the shot was aimed exactly at forcing the US into a ’space weapons treaty’ that would have grossly asymmetrical constraints on the US and not anyone else. Check it out:
Msnbc (Oberg): Space war debate takes new turn http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16694039/ Analysis // James Oberg // NBC News space analyst Special to MSNBC Updated: 5:53 p.m. CT Jan 18, 2007
And many of the comments on this thread suggest the plan is working very very well. |
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Jim O
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They know their enemy, don’t they? They know who their friends are... |
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shark
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Getting in Dr. Erb’s points so he doesn’t have to take time from his busy schedule.
Pretty accurate response I think |
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Getting in Dr. Erb’s points so he doesn’t have to take time from his busy schedule.
Pretty accurate response I think Feh. No reference to the DemiGod Carter. |
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Getting in Dr. Erb’s points so he doesn’t have to take time from his busy schedule. Pretty accurate response I think Feh. No reference to the DemiGod Carter Not everything revolves around Ex-President and future Saint Jimmy, but MOST things revolve around "Backlashes" and the reason the US ought to do little active in the world, because any action taken will only exacerbate tensions or deleterious trends. Especially with the current Administration in charge, this failed President really ought to simply sit back and visit my blog for some useful ideas on the conduct of Foreign Affairs. |
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Come on guys, I totally want to see China go with this so that there will be a space arms race. When I was a little kid I daydreamed about space-ships fighting across the galaxy with laser beams. I might see it actually happen in my lifetime! This is so freakin cool! Real life battles IN SPACE! |
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Jimmy the Dhimmi
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Jom’s point aside, and even assuming they ahve the ability to make such a treaty worthwhile... (NoKo, for example making lots of Nuke noise just to get a chip at the ’peace’ table... Do we figure the Chinese will stand by such a treaty?
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Do we figure the Chinese will stand by such a treaty? that all depends on us. If we have a stupid or weak administration they will walk all over us. If we have a strong willed president who is not fooled by the Chinese they will toe the line, There is so much we could do to hurt them. What do you think would happen to their economy overnight if we just dropped them from most favored nation trade status? |
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kyle N
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According to the technothrillers and science fiction I’ve read, taking out a satellite requires merely the ability to loft a load to its orbit. Dump a load of double-ought buckshot in its path and when it passes thru the cloud one or two objects are bound to hit something critical. It’s a little trickier than that. The load of buckshot is also in orbit; if you just put it into the same orbit as your target, the satellite will never pass through the cloud. In order for that to happen, the cloud of buckshot must be moving more slowly than the satellite, which means it must be coming from a decaying orbit. So, you’ve got to put the buckshot into a higher orbit than your target, but moving more slowly, and time it so that it crosses the target’s path just as the target gets there. Otherwise, you’ve spent a whole lot of money to miss. |
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steverino
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