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Live, From Harvard ....
Posted by: McQ on Saturday, January 20, 2007

What Harvard grad had this to say in 1976?
He recalled writing a skit called "Seamen on Broadway" that was rejected from the Hasty Pudding show "by some preppie so they could take some other preppie's skit." Xxxxxxx started to smile again, but his tone was serious, too serious. "It's not preppies, cause I'm a preppie myself. I just don't like homosexuals. If you ask me, they're all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia." The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He couldn't stand it any longer. "Put that in, put that in," Xxxxxxx laughed, leaning over the desk. "I'd love to see that in The Crimson."
He got his wish.

Answer below the fold.
Al Franken, April 16th, 1976. You know, Saturday Night Live and exploring the possibility of running for the Senate in Minnesota?

The same guy who mocked Rick Santorum in his 2005 book "The Truth (with Jokes)":
Anti-gay activists were already primed to explode. On June 26, 2003 the Supreme Court had ruled in Lawrence v. Texas that consensual homosexual sex wasn't just widespread, it was legal. Can you imagine that? So when the Massachusetts decision arrived on February 6, 2004, and, six days later, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom started marrying off homosexuals on the steps of City Hall, it was clear to slippery-slopers that it wouldn't be long before a guy married a chicken. (Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum took the less alarmist position that we were headed only for "man-on-child, man-on-dog" state-sanctioned relationships, both of which, for the record, Rick and I oppose. And, Rick, if I get to the Senate, let's do a bill on this one. Just you and me, buddy. Cosponsors of the Franken-Santorum—hell, the Santorum-Franken Man-Dog Marriage Act.)
The truth?

Wasn't he the guy who wrote "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Liar?" And "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them?"
"In contrast to [John Walker] Lindh's depraved [California] childhood environment, [conservative talk-show host Sean] Hannity trumpets his Long Island childhood in the protective embrace of the Catholic Church. Gee, nothing weird happened to cute little boys in the Catholic Church, eh, Sean? Nothing that would explain your bizarre fixation with our nation's homosexuals."
Huh. Speaking of liars.

So I guess the fair question in Franken's case is was he lying in '76 or is he lying now? Is he the Harvard Crimson Franken of '76 or is he "The Truth" Franken of '05?

UPDATE: Kyle asks why waste my time on this "toad"?
It appears that Al Franken may be closer to running to become the next Senator from Minnesota. He has been reaching out the electorate lately seeing what issues matter most to them. The Saturday Night Live veteran has also asked other politicians what unforeseen things may arise if he, in fact, runs for office. He told the AP, “It's unknown how people will respond to a comedian running for the Senate. I need to figure out a way to let people know I'm extremely serious about Minnesotans and their lives."
That's why.
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Previous Comments to this Post 

I can’t get worked up about it because Al Franken is so damn unimportant. He is simply a toad. Not a fanatic, or liberal, or a-hole. Those words give him more meaning than he deserves, he simply is a toad. And everyone knows it.
Written By: kyle N
I don’t disagree, Kyle ... I just don’t want him being Senator Toad and receiving the visibility that would grant him.
Written By: McQ
I’m slightly confused, not as to why you are discussing Franken, but as to why you are discussing lying and truth-telling instead of what it seems to really be: a disparity in his opinions. I suppose that Franken could be talking with one face and thinking with another out of political convenience, something one might easily condemn him to out of some like spirit of convenience that serves commentators, but even so that would be hypocrisy rather than lying since in neither excerpt does he proclaim his own compassionate acceptance for homosexuals nor that he has always so regarded them. I do conceded that that sort of dishonesty would be no less contemptible, but I prefer to keep even wretched things distinct.

If he has simply changed his ideals since his time in college, then that is admirable, a quality otherwise scarce in Franken, and hardly remarkable. What he wrote has the perfectly cavalier tone of a college writer barely thinking about what he is saying. Foolishness in youth is hardly an uncommon affliction and it is one that makes me more inclined to believe in the possibility of a changed mind.

If he is contemptibly baring different teeth than he really has, then he is quite deserving of disdain, but that requires rather more presumptuousness than I can stomach. Even if it is true, then you are still lowering yourself, not in talking about him, but by doing so in the same toxicly, anticipatorily triumphal way of disgusting, "gotcha," politics. It might also be irrelevant practically if he were to act in accordance with the façade when in office, a possibility I do not endorse, regardless of his real sentiments.

Franken is deserving of criticism, but I struggle to see a worthwhile point here.
Written By: Paul A. Brömmer
Franken is deserving of criticism, but I struggle to see a worthwhile point here.

I am suspicious that Paul would EVER criticize Al, unless Al should adopt a position not sufficiently caring or Progressive, or if Al should have a kind word for a Right-of-Centre personage. That’s just me, of course, Paul might be a FINE individual concerned only with accurate reportage and good public policy.
Written By: Joe
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“The Saturday Night Live veteran has also asked ... what unforeseen things may arise if he, in fact, runs for office.”
Once again QandO assists a deserving politician in getting what he/she* wishes for.

*added in view of today’s announcement
Written By: notherbob2/robert fulton
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I don’t find Franken either funny or intellectually at par.
But this sure does sound like tongue-in-cheek, since he insisted on being quoted.
Sometimes critics get all worked up about a sneeze.
Written By: Laime
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Multiple choice.

Problem: you are an aspiring comedian seeking exposure, but you have had a skit rejected by some producers. How do you maximise your publicity from amoung all of other failed writers?

a, By admitting that your skit was not up to standard.
b, By refusing to talk to the media.
c, By attacking the producers as pathetically incompetent fools with no appreciation for art, even though you will need to work with them later.
d, By making an outrageously spurious claim about the producers that is laughably untrue and one that because they are liberals they cannot take offense at, but gaurantees you media coverage.

Just on the basis of how Al Franken answered that question alone I think he will make it as a politician.
Written By: unaha-closp
The author says he was "serious, too serious."

He does not say it was tongue in cheek.

If we must have a PC standard in this nation, then we need to apply it fairly and across the board. Sorry, Al, we do not need closet homophobes or hypocrites in the US Senate.

I suggest if Al still wants to run, he should do the usual week-end retreat penance ala Clinton and Jesse Jackson, though it might be rough for a man who likes to see gays dead to heal the wounds with the gay community in just 48 hours, I think he can do it.
Written By: Harun
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...a man who likes to see gays dead to heal the wounds with the gay community in just 48 hours, I think he can do it.
I don’t know. Seems most American gays don’t care about walls being pushed over on—and killing—them.
Written By: tom scott
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