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Giuliani and judges
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, March 01, 2007

Rudy Giuliani is the present front runner for the Republicans. One of the things he he neatly side-steps any responsiblity for the war in Iraq since he's never served in the Congress. And he has executive experience running a city which is larger than most states in the union. But that's not to say Rudy isn't without baggage. His stance on some bell-weather conservative issues, such as abortion, concern many on the right.

One of the ways Giuliani has sought to allay or offset those fears is to point out that for all intents and purposes, the only way, as president, he could effect the abortion issue is through appointing judges. And he's been very specific about what that means:
"I would want judges who are strict constructionists because I am," he told South Carolina Republicans last month. "Those are the kinds of justices I would appoint — Scalia, Alito and Roberts."
But his track record? Well Politico.com says it's not quite up to his claims of what he'd do as President:
A Politico review of the 75 judges Giuliani appointed to three of New York state's lower courts found that Democrats outnumbered Republicans by more than 8 to 1. One of his appointments was an officer of the International Association of Lesbian and Gay Judges. Another ruled that the state law banning liquor sales on Sundays was unconstitutional because it was insufficiently secular.

A third, an abortion-rights supporter, later made it to the federal bench in part because New York Sen. Charles E. Schumer, a liberal Democrat, said he liked her ideology.

Cumulatively, Giuilani's record was enough to win applause from people like Kelli Conlin, the head of NARAL Pro-Choice New York, the state's leading abortion-rights group. "They were decent, moderate people," she said.
Now this isn't about abortion, or gay rights or any of that stuff. You know the libertarian position on those things. This is, instead, about Giuilani's claim about judges and the type he'd appoint. And given an 8:1 ratio of Democrats to Republicans (one would think convervatives would assume Republican appointees would be stricter "consistutionalists" than would Democrats), I'd say Rudy has some 'splainin' to do before conservative voters buy into his promise.
 
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I’ve learned one thing from the last few elections. If I see something in a candidate that I think is bad, if he gets elected, it will be even worse than I thought.

Bush the elder’s voodoo economics comment made me nervous about him, as well as his "professional resume builder" approach to his political career. And, sure enough, he went back on his "read my lips" pledge, and was generally wishy-washy about everything except the Kuwait invasion.

The first I thought when I saw Bill Clinton on television was "Would you buy a used car from this man?" He turned out to be as amoral a president as we’ve had in my lifetime (though Lyndon Johnson could give him a run for his money).

Bush the younger seemed to lack a philosophical center from the first. He was going to be an "MBA president." But anyone who’s worked in businesses not parasitical on government knows that MBAs without some vision and leadership skills generally send a company downwards instead of upwards. And, sure enough, Bush has "managed" us into a huge expansion of the welfare state, a society that effectively has speech codes within 60 days of elections, and almost managed us into another Sandra Day O’Conner on the Supreme Court. And, of course, he has steered such a wishy wash course in Iraq that he’s managed to not please anybody, and dithered away most of the best opportunities for victory.

I think Guiliani is indeed the front runner, and if he’s nominated I think he can beat anybody the Democrats throw at him. But, based on the pattern that they perform even worse in office than they looked during the campaign, I think we’ll be very lucky if Guiliani is any better than Bush. He has the potential to be significantly worse.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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I don’t see what’s so bad about Giuliani, Billy. I’m not a hard-core conservative or a libertarian and while I can easily see what would be disagreeable from those perspectives, I don’t think it’s a deal breaker. I’d bet that a Pres. Giuliani would suprise you
 
Written By: shark
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Hope you’re right, shark. I’ll sure take him over McCain, Hillary, Obama, Edwards, et.al.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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Hope you’re right, shark. I’ll sure take him over McCain, Hillary, Obama, Edwards, et.al.
In mind, there are 2 tiers of acceptability for the upcoming presidential campaign. In my mind, it will be a raging success if anyone besides Hillary wins. I’d absolutely love to see someone like her- with her obvious feeling of entitlement to the office- fail, never to have that chance again (sorta like the schadenfreude when Kerry lost). To know that she’ll be forever angry that the people (or really the VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY)denied her the rightful office she was ordained to have would be a great comfort.

Then, if Giuliani wins, I’ll be happiest. The guy is not perfect, but he does know how to get things done against a hostile opposition. He’s also a bit of a harda$$ who knows when to pick a fight, and when not to. Not perfect by any means, but the best of a flawed bunch we have to choose from.
 
Written By: shark
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"Giuliani appointed to three of New York state’s lower courts"

How does that work? Why is a mayor appointing state judges?
 
Written By: timactual
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Well, New York was a very blue state. America as a whole is much less so.

I have the same question as Tim; state judges appointed by a mayor? Huh?

Also, I’m not sure what the ratification process is. Does the legislature have input on approval? Was it even possible for Rudy to appoint conservative judges?
 
Written By: TallDave
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Now this isn’t about abortion... You know the libertarian position on [abortion].

I do?
 
Written By: Wulf
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I like the idea of a more socially liberal GOP candidate. The GOP needs to be able to field "non-evangelical" candidates. I think there are a lot of swing voters and Democrats who would vote GOP if we had more people like Arnold or Rudy running.
 
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Later reports about interviews with Mr. Olson and others is that a Democratic commission picked three candidates for each judgeship and Mr.Giuliani then appointed the best of the worse. Anyway these were judges for criminal and civil courts not judges interpreting the constitution. I have many disagreements with Mr. Giuliani on social issues, but unless we select a strong leader to safeguard our national security, those other issues won’t matter.
 
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Later reports about interviews with Mr. Olson and others is that a Democratic commission picked three candidates for each judgeship and Mr.Giuliani then appointed the best of the worse. Anyway these were judges for criminal and civil courts not judges interpreting the constitution.
I heard a spokesperson for Giuliani this AM repeat the above. A panel of 19 people would select three final candidates, and Rudy would pick one of the three. I think that gives him somewhat of a pass on this particular issue, unless someone can show that he passed over a conservative in favor of a liberal judge.
 
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