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Ann Coulter — what was she doing speaking at CPAC?
Posted by: McQ on Friday, March 02, 2007

I've always considered things like what happened at CPAC today to be self-inflicted wounds.

In case you missed it, Ann Coulter got up in front of the CPAC audience today and made an inappropriate joke:
“I’d say something about John Edwards, but if you say ‘faggot’ you have to go to rehab.”
Big surprise. Ann Coulter, as anyone with the IQ of asphalt knows, is a bomb thrower. So it makes perfect sense to put a bomb thrower up in front of a poltical audience who many believe to be homophobic to begin with and give her the opportunity to validate that belief.

Right?

Naturally, the other side is in full, flouncing, screeching outrage over all this with the usual calls for denouncing Coulter being heard from all corners. Again, big surprise.

The "aftermath" sequence for these things is as predictable as their happening.

Look ... Coulter is the Michael Moore of the right. What's interesting is the right, which was so offended by Moore's presence at the Democratic Convention, apparently didn't learn a thing.

It amazes me at times that we continue to somehow maintain the political leadership of the world given the poor judgment routinely displayed by the political class on both sides of the isle in this country. And this was just another indicator of that poor judgement.
 
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Whata bunch of weasly crap. Coulter is not a Micheal Moore. Moore has never said 1% of the obscene things that Coulter has. Maybe you think that because the disgust that those on the right feel for Moore is equal to the disgust that most Americans feel for Coulter, then the two are equal offenders. Not by a long shot.

Actually, I think you just want to avoid responsibility for the festering rot at the heart of modern conservatism.

There is a reason she is invited to speak to gatherings like this. Just look at the rapturous response there, the long lines to have her sign books. She is LOVED by the base conservatives because they all have a little Coulter in their hearts. Thats who they are, and that is what the movement is based on.
 
Written By: Abe
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full, flouncing, screeching outrage
Flouncing, huh? Off to rehab you go....
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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Moore has never said 1% of the obscene things that Coulter has.
That certainly would make him unusual for a lefty, unless you meant the 1% was too low. (I don’t think you mean that.)
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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By the way, how do you know that she said "faggot" instead of "fagot"? You must have good ears.
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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Moore does seem less vicious and sheerly hateful than Coulter, but I find both of them obnoxious enough on their own merits to warrant largely equal antipathy for both.

It is the public perception of Coulter that worries me most. Moore is seldom, at least where I bother to tread, defended with the enthusiasm and presumed self-evident truth that I have seen conservative writers raise to shield Coulter. I think that the left has every right to denounce her, although ignoring her might do as well or better, but I am often annoyed by their too frequent indifference to the mendacity of his films or foolishness of what he says.

Both are assets to the wretcheder sort of conservatives in the end. Moore provides a pleasing target to rally toward with faces reddened by gleeful anger while Coulter urges them on, giving them license to indulge in the most brutish of their ideological passions and feel good for doing so.
 
Written By: Paludicola
URL: http://www.vikinghats.com
Ann Coulter=Michael Moore?

That’s far more insulting than the faggot/rehab line. Dude, Coulter is a political entertainer. Michael Moore is, to be polite, a propagandist. They’re not remotely similar.

yours/
peter.
 
Written By: peter jackson
URL: www.liberalcapitalist.com
Naturally, the other side is in full, flouncing, screeching outrage over all this with the usual calls for denouncing Coulter being heard from all corners. Again, big surprise.
When are those crazy liberals going to learn that using hate speech to refer to gay people is nothing to be upset about?

Not that it matters, but Mitt Rommney sent a shout out to Coulter just before she spoke.
“I am happy to hear that after you hear from me, you will hear from Ann Coulter. That is a good thing. Oh yeah!”
Wonder what would happen if Obama stood up at a similar event and praised a speaker who called Giuliani a "w*p"? Or maybe one who got up and called Lieberman a "k*k*"? I imagine Barack’s candidacy would be DOA. As it would rightfully be.

Mitt, on the other hand, probably scored mucho bonus points with most conservatives with his endorsement. (And the idea that he could not have forseen what she might say is basless, especially given that Coulter has already called Gore a "total f*g.")

No, what you saw tonight is what Michael Kinsely might call a gaffe - - you know, when a politician tells the truth. Coulter may not be a politician, but Rommney is, and to say that he represents some kind of ideological extreme of the conservative movement would be a mistake. He is smack dab in the middle of the right. And in the place he is in, calling gay people "f*gs" is completely acceptable, normal behavior, otherwise he would not have endorsed Coulter in the first place. In other words, Rommney told the truth. And do you think Mitt will take a hit for endorsing a someone who uses hate speech to describe people who happen to be gay? Not a chance. As I said, his stock will only rise on the right for endorsing Coulter. Indeed, why else would he have sent a shout out?

Most people on the right of the political spectrucm hate gays - not all, but most. It’s not a big secret. After all, Rommney was hardly hiding his respect for someone who uses hate speech to refer gay people. And he is running for President!
So it makes perfect sense to put a bomb thrower up in front of a poltical audience who many believe to be homophobic to begin with ....
No, it makes perfect sense to put Ann up in front of an audience that is homophobic to begin with.
Look ... Coulter is the Michael Moore of the right. What’s, interesting is the right, who was so offended by Moore’s presence at the Democratic Convention, apparently didn’t learn a thing.
Guess I missed the part where Moore used hate speech to refer to someone’s race, religion, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation. Tell you what McQ, why don’t you provide a link to when Moore said something similar.

That you analogize Coulter to Moore on this issue says more about you McQ than anything else. If you don’t see the qualitative difference between what Moore has said and Coulter’s use of hate speech, then you are part of the problem.

Oh, and if you watch the video, the crowd applauds Coulter’s use of hate speech. Sick, twisited motherf*ck*rs.
 
Written By: mkultra
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When all the fools die... the neighbors will live a long ways apart
 
Written By: darohu
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That you analogize Coulter to Moore on this issue says more about you McQ than anything else. If you don’t see the qualitative difference between what Moore has said and Coulter’s use of hate speech, then you are part of the problem.
Well, there is a difference between them, to be sure. It’s the difference between Opie & Anthony and Leni Reifenstahl. (Except that, unlike Ann Coulter, Opie & Anthony are funny.)

Still, neither one are worthy of a serious hearing on policy matters.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
Abe, MKultra:

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow" -Michael Moore, referring to people who behead civilians and kill or intimidate doctors and other people in criticial civil service positions in an attempt to promote the breakdown of basic civil order. From his official website.





 
Written By: Lysenko
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I thank GOD for people like Ann Coulter. She’s doing what most would be afraid to do.
 
Written By: Rick
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I thank God for Coulter too. She says what the right really believes, but are just too afraid to say in the rest of the non-crazy society.
 
Written By: Oliver Willis
URL: http://www.oliverwillis.com
Oliver’s point has some truth to it considering CPAC knows Coulter’s history and they embrace her anyway.
 
Written By: JWG
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I just got off of a big Right wing site where I was trying to make the case that Coulter is very harmful to the republican party. First poster is correct, Moore is not as hateful as she is. She is more akin to Frankin, Rhodes, and Garafalo.

The thing is left wingers can often get away with being hateful, cynical, mean, and deceitful. But a conservative just makes their whole movement look bad. The same with that madman Micheal Savage. As a libertarian/conservative who often votes republican. I do not want to be associated with people like that AT ALL.

Unfortunately, I have come to realize this skinny vile bitch has a lot of hard core supporters in the Republican party who ought to know better.
 
Written By: kyle N
URL: http://impudent.blognation.us/blog
I thank GOD for people like Ann Coulter. She’s doing what most would be afraid to do.

Written By: Rick
So then, did you complain about the Amanda Marcotte incident, or about anything ever said about conservatives over at Air America? Best not, you wouldn’t want to be a hypocrite or anything.
 
Written By: kyle N
URL: http://impudent.blognation.us/blog
Actually, I think you just want to avoid responsibility for the festering rot at the heart of modern conservatism.
That’s silly. Why would I bring this up if I were trying to avoid something?

Additionally I have no "responsiblity" for anything going on in modern conservatism and criticize it often.

The fact is this was a self-inflicted wound by people who should have known that the possibility of this sort of embarrassment was likely. That it did refelcts on their poor judgement. And that’s the point I made.

As to Michael Moore, I think he’s as a bad as Coulter. That’s my opinion. You don’t share it. Big surprise. And I agree with the commenter who included Frankin, Rhodes, and Garafalo who routinely try to out do what Coulter did yesterday. Michael Savage as well. But none of them spoke in front of a political gathering, did they?

But thanks for showing up to defend Moore. It was, well, amusing anyway.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net
The reason that humor works, is the same as any other humor that works; there’s a grain of truth at the center of it. They don’t call Edwards The Breck Girl for nothing.

And Willis...We already know what the left believes. Indeed, all that happened here is the left got some of back some of the carp they’ve been tossing for decades. So, you will forgive me if I’m less than sympathetic.
 
Written By: Bithead
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If the left has no problems with Edwards bloggers, then they should STFU on this.

PS- It’s nice to see something drew MK out from his rock. Welcome back MK!
 
Written By: shark
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The difference isn’t that the right doesn’t have Michael Moores (they are unavoidable). The difference is that:

1) The media will point out the right’s with relish.
2) Much of the right will flagellate itself if something really stupid is said.

The Left is free of those two effects.
 
Written By: jpm100
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Ann Coulter IS NOT Michael Moore. Michael Moore is an anti-capitalist socialist/Marxist fat slob hypocrite who mugs with America’s enemies.

Ann Coulter has a lot to say about things.

When Ann Coulter starts kissing up to this country’s enemies, I will condemn her.

Until then, check out some of the garbage on left wing sites, and it makes Ann Coulter seem tame by comparison.
 
Written By: Alexander Alt
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Ann Coulter isn’t in the Presidential box at the Republican Convention either...
 
Written By: shark
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Ann Coulter IS NOT Michael Moore.
Oh for goodeness sake learn to read. I said she’s the "Michael Moore of the right"

That would obviously mean that the ideologies are different. Instead it points to a similarity in tactics.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Ann Coulter isn’t in the Presidential box at the Republican Convention either...
Nah ... she’s just addressing the same forum that Republican Presidential hopefuls are addressing.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
L
Look ... Coulter is the Michael Moore of the right. What’s, interesting is the right, who was so offended by Moore’s presence at the Democratic Convention, apparently didn’t learn a thing.
The title of your post questions why Coulter is speaking at CPAC. Frankly, CPAC is not the Republican convention, and the Left is probably correct to suspect that Coulter really does speak for that particular audience.

The real question is why a Presidential candidate like Romney would be up at the podium of the CPAC conference to introduce Coulter. And the answer is that the candidates are courting this audience for the same reason that the Democratic candidates are blowing air kisses to the nutty Democratic base right now: We are in that phase of the campaign cycle where the most hardcore elements of both parties hold disproportionate leverage over the candidates’ future prospects.

Incidentally, while Coulter’s comment was unquestionably in poor taste I think it is pretty clear that she was not literally referring to Edwards’ sexual orientation. The line reminds me of someone who once complained about "Little old ladies of both sexes."

 
Written By: Aldo
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The title of your post questions why Coulter is speaking at CPAC. Frankly, CPAC is not the Republican convention, and the Left is probably correct to suspect that Coulter really does speak for that particular audience.
I doubt that ... too broad a brush. That’s not to say she might not represent a segment of that group.
The real question is why a Presidential candidate like Romney would be up at the podium of the CPAC conference to introduce Coulter.
It suddenly makes McCain’s decision not to attend look smart doesn’t it?
Incidentally, while Coulter’s comment was unquestionably in poor taste I think it is pretty clear that she was not literally referring to Edwards’ sexual orientation. The line reminds me of someone who once complained about "Little old ladies of both sexes."
It’s simply an inappropriate remark in a setting in which your party’s presidential candidates are present. It reflects poorly on everyone, them included.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Michael Moore sat in former President Carter’s box at the DNC convention for a few minutes. Rush Limbaugh - misogynist, sexists, racist - was a guest of the sitting president in the White House.
 
Written By: Oliver Willis
URL: http://www.oliverwillis.com
Maybe if we ignored her, she wouldn’t be able to make money as a shock jock of politics.
 
Written By: Harun
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Michael Moore sat in former President Carter’s box at the DNC convention for a few minutes
And was wildly applauded, had his sick propaganda film actively promoted by party leaders and on and on. Look Oliver, she is an offensive boor and having her there showed that both parties have an enormous reservoir of stupidity, kind of like giving Marcotte or Moore a platform. You spend a lot of time covering the buffoons of the right, good work, but stop acting as if buffoonery is a right wing issue. It isn’t.

Personally stuff like this (and as soon as I saw it I posted, unaware it had become a blogosphere dust up) is not what makes Coulter a problem. Republicans can survive idiocy, and so can the Democrats. What is a bigger problem is when Coulter actually takes the time to make a substantive point. Then she is quite convincing and skilled at manipulating the truth to the unwary. Quotes out of context, abusing sources, etc. A lot of people take her seriously. She is good at it for the same reason Glenn Greenwald is, she appeals to those who want to believe the best about themselves and the worst about those they disagree with, and therefore is easily led to believe that a bunch of footnotes, links and quotes prove whatever it is they are trying to say and rarely look under the covers, ignore the assumptions underlying the way the information is presented and characterized.

Both are very good at it. If you want to see a difference, Coulter may be popular with a certain segment, but serious right (broadly speaking) intellectuals and bloggers ignore her or are disgusted by her. Greenwald, who actually says far more offensive things, even if they are not about race, sexual orientation or other left wing obsessions, is admired among the intelligentsia of the left, though I have begun to notice a bit of a backlash developing. Ann has a following now only amongst the yahoos and hopefully, as inconsequential as this idiocy is, this will speed that process.

Aldo,

You are right about her comment, actually it was reference to an earlier point she had made some time agao about a pol going to rehab because he had called someone a faggot. Still, it was ill considered and insensitive and had no place, especially without some context, at CPAC and those who invited her deserve to be ridiculed for inviting her knowing she might pop off.
 
Written By: Lance
URL: http://www.asecondhandconjecture.com
Rush Limbaugh - misogynist, sexists, racist
Based on what, the fact that Soros said so?
 
Written By: shark
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Lance:
You are right about her comment, actually it was reference to an earlier point she had made some time agao about a pol going to rehab because he had called someone a faggot. Still, it was ill considered and insensitive and had no place, especially without some context, at CPAC and those who invited her deserve to be ridiculed for inviting her knowing she might pop off.
Well, I think she really was trying to articulate something about Edwards which a lot of us viscerally sense to be true, but the word she chose was wrong both because it is a slur against homosexuals and also because it misses the mark.

Obviously Coulter doesn’t mind ridiculing homosexuals, which is an ugly reflection on her own character, but I think you are correct that she chose this particular word primarily because it allowed her to get in a dig at the whole culture of political correctness, in which people are sent to rehab for making bigoted remarks.

McQ:
The real question is why a Presidential candidate like Romney would be up at the podium of the CPAC conference to introduce Coulter.
It suddenly makes McCain’s decision not to attend look smart doesn’t it?
Yes, it does. I think Romney is viewed with even more suspicion than McCain by social conservatives, and he has really been going overboard trying to win them over.
 
Written By: Aldo
URL: http://
Oh for goodeness sake learn to read. I said she’s the "Michael Moore of the right"

That would obviously mean that the ideologies are different. Instead it points to a similarity in tactics.
Hey McQ - still waiting for an example of Moore employing the tactic of using a word such as "n*gg*r" or "sp*c" or "g**k" or "k*k*" or "w*p" or "f*g" or anything like it to describe a political opponent.

Hate speech in reference to race, religion, ethnicity, disability, gender or sexual oreintation is a tactic that Moore has never used - never. Not once. And yet you continue to use this smear.

Be a man - either provide some facts or admit you are wrong.
 
Written By: mkultra
URL: http://
Hey McQ - still waiting for an example of Moore employing the tactic of using a word such as "n*gg*r" or "sp*c" or "g**k" or "k*k*" or "w*p" or "f*g" or anything like it to describe a political opponent.
Nice try, MK, but those aren’t the tactics in question. That’s simple name calling and that can take many forms which a reasonable person (uh, that would exclude you) would understand.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
In a world where the left has no problem whatsoever with the Edwards bloggers, with Maher being sad that Cheney wasn’t killed, and with various assorted and sundry smears against Bush, the GOP and conservatives, I find the howling of the left extremely pathetic. That includes you Oliver (Soros whore)

Either denounce all I listed here or STFU on this topic. That’s the rule, m’kay?

Since I denounced the all of the above, let me also denounce Coulter for the record. I’ve always known she was a bomb thrower, but in general, her bombs were laced with biting wit and sarcasm. This is just childish. I equate what she said with the idiocy of the Dixie Chicks. Its not real "political" speech, it doesn’t advance debate or ideas.

The right is (rightfully) going after her. Oliver, does the left ever clean up their own side?
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
She was doing what all BOMB THROWERS do, selling books to the faithful. Idiots from both the right and left have found a lucrative method of throwing red meat to the Boobwasee, the unthinking, uncaring clowns who only want to hear hate. Present them with a reasoned thoughtful argument and they will throw tomatoes and boo you off the stage. HATE SELLS both from the right and left.
 
Written By: James E. Fish
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Hey MK:

You clearly don’t read much.


To the rest of you; do any of you remember the long running meme about how Ann Coulter is the product of a badly botched sex change operation? Some quick and dirty search work on Google or whatever, will demonstrate this to you more clearly than a link or two from me.

That’s precisely what I meant when I said the Democrats are getting back what they’ve been giving, And why they’ve got no room to complain, now.

 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://
Once again, this incident indicates the differences between left and right. McQ’s point:
what’s, interesting is the right, who was so offended by Moore’s presence at the Democratic Convention, apparently didn’t learn a thing,
is spot on. The organizers want someone they think that the base will want to see (and contrary to JWG’s contention, it is not an "embrace"), but fail to fully understand just how polarizing that person may be.

The difference, rather, resides in the reactions to such appearances, such speeches, and such written commentary. The left defends Moore, and tries to point out the nefarious right-wing roots of such a “blatant partisan” attack. The right denounces Coulter, and points out that by including such bomb-throwers only plays into common the miss-perceptions foisted by the left. When Al Gore’s energy hypocrisy is revealed, the left tries to discard all objections by smearing the messenger. When Mark Foley’s and Ted Haggarty’s hypocrisy is exposed, the right discards Foley and Haggarty, then exposes the partisan roots of the messenger.

While the top tier politicos still wait for polling results before denouncing one of their own, it’s nice to see the middle echelon readily condemning that which is contemptible – at least the right middle echelon. (Suffice it to say, the lower echelon, on both sides, still resides in the gutter.)
 
Written By: bains
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Nice try, MK, but those aren’t the tactics in question. That’s simple name calling and that can take many forms which a reasonable person (uh, that would exclude you) would understand
Nonsense. And you know it.

Moore has never resorted to bigotry. Never. Coulter has. On many occasions.

Your unwillingness to acknowledge the aforementioned reality confirms that you susrcribe to the same bigotry. You are sick and need help.
 
Written By: mkultra
URL: http://
Your unwillingness to acknowledge the aforementioned reality confirms that you susrcribe to the same bigotry. You are sick and need help.
Quit whining MK. And do everyone a favor and go look up the term "strawman", okay?

If the concept is too difficult to understand or the words to large to sound out, come back and we’ll explain it in terms even you can figure out.

Yeesh, expecting me to rise to that obvious bait ... you have been away a while, haven’t you?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Coulter makes substantive points? Is that before she calls President Clinton "a very good rapist" or calls the 9/11 widows whores?
 
Written By: Oliver Willis
URL: http://www.oliverwillis.com
Moore has never resorted to bigotry. Never
I seem to recall Moore referring to the mother of Ellian Gonzolez as a money mad gold-digger, a kidnapper and a child murderer... all because she left the worker’s paradise.

Then, let’s look at his "Downsize this" wherein we read his saying about Cuban American people that they’re responsible for "sleaze and influence -peddling in American politics. ... In every incident of national torment that has deflated our country for the past three decades ... Cuban exiles are always present and involved."
So, he’s serpated out an entire ethnic group to be exposed to the very essence, the very working definition of "Bigotry".

Wanna try again, MK, or does your ire against ’bigotry’ only apply to Republicans?

(snort)




 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://
Say Oliver... just who do you think is defending Coulter here?
 
Written By: bains
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"Hate speech in reference to race, religion, ethnicity, disability, gender or sexual oreintation is a tactic..."

Are those the only allowable categories of "hate" speech? Just what exactly is "hate" speech, anyway?
 
Written By: timactual
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Oliver had very little to say here during the Edwards blogging fiasco....just why is that Oliver? Your own paymaster Soros called Bush and the administration Nazis.

Just where was your self-righteous bluster on those topics, you hyporcite?
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
Quit whining MK. And do everyone a favor and go look up the term "strawman", okay?

If the concept is too difficult to understand or the words to large to sound out, come back and we’ll explain it in terms even you can figure out.

Yeesh, expecting me to rise to that obvious bait ... you have been away a while, haven’t you?
You made the claim, not me. You claimed Moore and Coulter use the same tactics. And now you can’t back up your claim with facts or evidence. So instead, you assert that I have set up some kind of strawman and that I don’t understand the term strawman.

I understand the term. It has nothing to do with this issue. I have asked yolu a straightforward question. I have asked you to provide evidence that shows that Moore has used the same tactics that Coulter uses.

You have provided no evidence. None.

You are a liar. And you know it. C’mon McQ, let’s see your evidence.

You said Coulter was like Moore. I have asked more than once for you to provide an example where Moore engaged in stereotyping or bigotry using hate speech like Coulter did. You have not provided an example. Instead, you have responded with cliches (e.g., strawman), or you have accused me of being too dunmb to understand the words you use.

You are a dissembler. You fail to respond to the question. Again, I ask you to come up with an exampple, with a link, where Michael Moore has used hate speech.

What the f*ck is your problem? Why are you incapable of answering the question?

You are a typical wingnut - all bluster, no evidence.

C’mon McQ - we are all waiting.
 
Written By: mkultra
URL: http://
Hey MK, don’t you read?
I just answered your question.
 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://
Hey MK, don’t you read?
I just answered your question.
I asked for a link. You did not provide a link. You did not answer the question.

Give me evidence. I have. Why can’t you?
 
Written By: mkultra
URL: http://
C’mon Bithead - I want a direct quote with a link. Give it. C’mon. I dare you.
 
Written By: mkultra
URL: http://
You claimed Moore and Coulter use the same tactics.
That’s right MK and you still don’t know what that means.
You are a liar.
And you’re gone.

There are lines and you just crossed one.

Opinions will differ but calling people liars because you disagree isn’t acceptable.

When you start hurling this sort of trash around, we just don’t need you around here anymore. Go troll elsewhere.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
This place just improved substantially.
 
Written By: Grandersnack
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Huh. And ll this time I thought it’d be me that banned MK.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
It is unfortunate that she has crashed and burned, only after she has instilled so much bigotry; especially among the college students which will be our leaders of tomorrow.
 
Written By: VRB
URL: http://hathor-sekhmet.blogspot.com
(Chuckle)
The insistence on a link was amusing, given that I quoted the man’s book.
I’d have been interested to see how he would have been able to dodge that particular point. I guess the only plausible excuse, is that he doesn’t read books.

Oh, well.
 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://
This discussion has degenerated into the same kind of name calling Bovine Scatology practiced by Coulter, Moore, Frankin, Savage, and the rest of the prevaricator of hate and hot air. No wander the planet is warming.

The discussion is not advanced by ad hominem attacks on other posters. Remember “It is better to keep ones mouth shut and be though an idiot, that speak and prove the point.” This also applies to comments on websites
 
Written By: James E. Fish
URL: http://
Oh, please.
What other conclusion can one draw, other than the didn’t read, or didn’t remember, and the writings of Michael Moore?

And since hate, apparently, is defined as somebody forcefully speaking for something liberals disagree with, I have to take the use of the word with a grain of salt.
 
Written By: Bithead
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