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A tale of two cities ... and the ubiquitous nanny state
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, March 06, 2007

In our never ending quest to bring you the best of the Nanny State's laws, we have found a couple more you might find interesting.

These laws have been enacted in small 'burbs on the outskirts of Atlanta. The first city is located on the south side of Atlanta. Forest Park, GA apparently feels that leaving your car unattended while warming up is cause for a ticket.
Louise Wood warms up her car every chilly morning so her 6-year-old son won't have to get into a cold car.

After starting the engine, she locks her car, sets its alarm and heads back into her home.

Sounds basic, but Wood and more than a dozen other Forest Park residents have learned an expensive lesson about this common routine.

It's against the law.

A little-known state statute makes it illegal to leave a car running and unattended. The 33-year-old law was meant to prevent driverless cars from rolling away.

But the law is finding new purpose in Wood's hometown of 22,000 people, as a tool to prevent auto theft.
Bull puckie. It's a tool to tell you what you can and can't do with your property. If it is anything, it is a tool to make life easier for police, not to mention a nice little revenue generator. $168 a pop for getting caught warming up your car and not being around it. If you think a locked car is a deterrent to auto thieves, then hey, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn in which you might be interested.

The article claims that it is a problem around apartment complexes, but it certainly wouldn't preclude an officer from walking up to your carport and ticketing your car as it warmed up while you were inside putting your coffee in that thermal go cup.

Yes folks, freedom means the freedom to be stupid and get your car stolen. But politicians and police chiefs measure success by statistics. Consequently when push comes to shove, they simply use their power over you to make life easier for them ... despite the fact that you supposedly own the car and should be the person exercising the rights of ownership.

Next we move to the fine town of Lilburn GA. Lilburn is located in the county I live in, NE of Atlanta and, it seems, has decided that people are just having too much fun in bars.
Earlier, the city outlawed pool —- the game that spelled trouble in the musical "The Music Man" —- in its watering holes. Now it's also barring karaoke and just about any other party game from places that serve alcohol.

Dave Metcalf, a patron of the Sports Fan Bar & Grill, wonders if the Gwinnett city is banning good times.

"Personally, I'd like to see karaoke end in the bars I attend," joked Metcalf, who said he flees aspiring karaoke stars.

"But why would they ban karaoke? ... More fun than the law allows?"
Nope, just another example of government control over you and property. Read this BS rational for outlawing karaoke and pool:
"Our intention was always to just have alcohol in restaurants," [Mayor Jack] Bolton said. "We don't want to have dance clubs, party clubs or bars. If it means being made fun of because we don't allow karaoke, that's fine, too."
Who's "we" pale face? He, amazingly, goes on:
"I like to sit down and have a beer as much as anybody else," the mayor said. "But we can show studies that show that bars and honky-tonks lead to more crime."
And on the basis of various unnamed studies, and his preferences, the citizens of Lilburn can go suck eggs.

I mean, karaoke?
...[H]e said karaoke singers typically are not dangerous and take their avocation seriously.

"Most of the people who come in and sing don't drink —- somebody has told them they're good," Metcalf said. "If people want to come in and play a little pool or sing a little, let them. For us hard-working Joes, it's fun."
But not in Lilburn. Nope, the city has decreed that owners can only have "passive" entertainment, such as TV. Oh, with one exception, of course:
Joe Chao, owner of the Oyster Barn Grill & Bar, said he has gotten the message from the city. He is pulling his pool tables and video games. He said, however, that state-operated lottery games still will be permitted.

"I'm trying to be more like a family business," he said before adding, with a smile, "We're going to start keno next month."
Keno is operated by the state. Somehow, I assume, state operated keno games don't factor into those "studies" Bolton cites.

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Yet more arguments for forbidding judges from discouraging arguments by defense lawyers which appeal to jury nullification.

The legislature’s job is to be generic, it is for the jury to be specific.

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
Written By: Tom Perkins
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Buen McQ de pensamiento, más pronto cambiamos el tema el mejor para el jefe. Si esto no lo hace entonces decir algo sobre Ana Nicole Smith. ¡El dios bendice América!
Written By: USA Numero Uno!
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Looks like QandO picked up a bilingual troll. Apparently angry that you aren’t talking about how evil El Jefe is. Be interesting to see if his IP matches who I think it might match.
Written By: ChrisB
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I don’t want to give the nannies any more ammo, but they could PC up their argument. While I was stationed in Germany, we were informed that idling cars for more than a few minutes was illegal because they want to minimize emmissions. No response was given when it was pointed out that driving cold releases more emissions than idling cold.
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Forest Park, GA apparently feels that leaving your car unattended while warming up is cause for a ticket.
Obviously the fault of George Bush and his interventionist forign policy.
Written By: Don
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"Forest Park, GA apparently feels that leaving your car unattended while warming up is cause for a ticket."

It’s illegal in Minneapolis too and they did it there because cars were being stolen when people warmed them up in the winter. Next I hear they are going to outlaw walking on the street to eliminate muggings. Of course the best thing to do is eliminate private property - theft is gone for good then.

Written By: Grandersnack
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Forest Park, GA apparently feels that leaving your car unattended while warming up is cause for a ticket.
Oh the whole state of Washington banned that one at least a decade ago. It’s also illegal to not take your keys out of the car and you must set your parking brake. There’s a big push to enforce this one every winter, to help prevent global warming and all.
Written By: Ryan
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The term for this bi-lingual Troll is "Pendejo"
Written By: James E. Fish
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Denver has the same law as Forest Park and Minneapolis; we call it the "puffer" law. And it’s just as stupid here as elsewhere, no matter its justification (supposedly it’s to prevent car theft, which jumps in the winter mainly because of idiots who don’t lock their cars while they warm up).

Banning cars altogether seems like the next logical step. Make ’em take the light rail; RTD needs to increase its ridership anyway. . . .
Written By: Brian Martinez

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