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Even the Washington Post is unimpressed with Dem effort to end the war
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, March 13, 2007

Says an editorial in the Washington Post today:
Congress should rigorously monitor the Iraqi government's progress on those benchmarks. By Mr. Bush's own account the purpose of the troop surge in Iraq is to enable political progress. If progress does not occur, the military strategy should be reconsidered. But aggressive oversight is quite different from mandating military steps according to an inflexible timetable conforming to the need to capture votes in Congress or at the 2008 polls. Ms. Pelosi's strategy leads not toward a responsible withdrawal from Iraq but to a constitutional power struggle with Mr. Bush, who has already said he will veto the legislation. Such a struggle would serve the interests of neither the Democrats nor the country.
You tell me - who is politicizing this war in order to try to reap political benefit at election time without regard for the national interest?
 
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The Dems apparently concluded that if Bush can do it, why not them too?
 
Written By: Ugh
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You tell me - who is politicizing this war in order to try to reap political benefit at election time without regard for the national interest?
The Democrats and Republicans.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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The Democrats and Republicans.
Read the question again, stop the jerking knee, and tell me how the Republicans are going to ’reap political benefit at election time’ with their present position on Iraq.
 
Written By: McQ
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stop the jerking knee
Is that possible?
 
Written By: capt joe
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tell me how the Republicans are going to ’reap political benefit at election time’ with their present position on Iraq.
If things end up ok in 18 months, a lot of the Dems are sunk.

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
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If things end up ok in 18 months,
Well, yeah, the Dems will have to figure out how to spin Iraq success in with their being in control of Congress then. You know, their guiding hand, etc.
But this last couple months could be trotted out to demonstrate the only way they were trying to guide Iraq was off the cliff edge.
Which is going to leave them with what?

And I expect great dithering on their part while Iran goes nuclear.
So, their record of making the country secure ought to look really good round about election.
 
Written By: looker
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The prescription for losing a war is for the two parties to squabble about how their non strategy is better than the others non strategy. "The majority of people are timid by nature, and that is why they constantly exaggerate danger. All influences on the military leader, therefore, combine to give him a false impression of his opponent’s strength, and from this arises a new source of indecision." - Carl von Clausewitz This is the problem with Congress. The fog of war is frightening and opponents of the war are using this fear as a political hammer to pound Bush.

The President need another attribute discussed by von Clausewitz, “Two qualities are indispensable: first, an intellect that, even in the darkest hour, retains some glimmerings of the inner light which leads to truth; and second, the courage to follow this faint light wherever it may lead.” For success in Iraq Bush need to summon up this courage. The question is does he have it.
 
Written By: James E. Fish
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The question is does he have it.
Considering he’s persevering with the effort after adjusting our approach around four times, I wonder why you doubt it?

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
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Read the question again, stop the jerking knee, and tell me how the Republicans are going to ’reap political benefit at election time’ with their present position on Iraq.
Oh, that’s nice. Accuse me of having a jerking knee.

The Democrats and Republicans. That’s my answer, if you don’t like it… fine. But accusations of jerking knees!?
A little below you, McQ. Don’t you think?

The question you asked was “who is politicizing this war in order to try to reap political benefit at election time without regard for the national interest?”

I say that members of both political parties are using every opportunity to use this war to advance their political aspirations, both during election time and elsewhere.

…and tell me how the Republicans are going to ’(try to)reap political benefit at election time’ with their present position on Iraq.
Simple.

By calling Democrats and all of us “anti-war types” traitors, defeatists, and unsupportive of the troops. Do you really need citations?
The goal is to stoke national pride and to suggest that those of us that were/are against this action lack patriotism and have their own political or personal interests at heart, rather than the interests of the country.
And where that may be true in some cases, that is of course not always the case.

Good grief man, there are those Republicans, and those speaking on their behalf, that go as far as suggesting that Democrats and us “anti-war types” actually want the Jihadists to succeed.

Bullpuckie, and you know it.



You tell me,
You don’t think that members of both political parties are using every opportunity to use this war to advance their political aspirations without regard for the national interests?

Let us test your knee.

 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Aw, Pogue, that’s pitiful.

I mean I don’t know what else to say. Man ... I don’t know where you’ve been or what you’ve been up too, but the lay off hasn’t been kind.

The question is pretty simple and straightforward. [And, btw, you don’t get to modify it in an attempt to have it say something else. Verbatim please.]

So drop the histrionics and try a straight, simple answer:
...tell me how the Republicans are going to ’reap political benefit at election time’ with their present position on Iraq.
 
Written By: McQ
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Aw, Pogue, that’s pitiful.
Says you.

You tell me,
You don’t think that members of both political parties are using every opportunity to use this war to advance their political aspirations without regard for the national interests?

Answer please.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
URL: http://ceilidhcowboy.typepad.com/
Says you.
Uh, yeah ... glad you picked up on that bud.
Answer please.
I asked first.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Good grief man, there are those Republicans, and those speaking on their behalf, that go as far as suggesting that Democrats and us “anti-war types” actually want the Jihadists to succeed.
Some of you do, and others among you openly use admiring terms for them.

The key problem with this statement of yours Pogue:
I say that members of both political parties are using every opportunity to use this war to advance their political aspirations,
Is that key aspects of the Administration’s position actually are to America’s best interest where the opposing Democratic postition is not, and there is irrefutable historical precedent for that being so.

You’re on the wrong side of history, dude.

And the ash-heap.

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
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If things end up ok in 18 months, a lot of the Dems are sunk.

"We ended a stupid war" is a powerful message.

- Josh
 
Written By: Wild Pegasus
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