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The Imus Fallout Continues
Posted by: Dale Franks on Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Well, that didn't take long.
Fallout from the "nappy-headed hoes" slur that cost Don Imus his CBS radio and MSNBC television careers last week has moved national black leaders to take action against racist and sexist language in all of America, including the hip hop industry, dominated by black men accused of spewing insulting lyrics about black women.

"We're going after the record industry. We're going at a record company that has consistently put out the misogynistic records and the records using the N-word," says activist Al Sharpton, president of the National Action Network, who led pickets against MSNBC and CBS last week, forcing advertisers to drop the Imus shows within days after his remarks.

Sharpton and a string of activists applaud the firing of Imus, but say it's now time demand an end to the self-inflicted wounds in the black community. Sharpton said he would announce a specific action to pressure a specific record company during NAN's Ninth Annual Convention set for Wednesday through Saturday this week in New York.

"I'm talking about boycotting, I'm talking about picketing, I'm talking about demanding that they do what they've done [when others are insulted]," Sharpton says. "Any company can say, 'It's against our policy to put out records that say misogynistic and racist terms. That does not stifle free speech. That's company policy.'"
This is exactly what I said would happen. Now, you'll see interest groups—and legislators—begin pressuring the FCC to regulate racist or sexist language. And rap music looks like one of the primary targets.

Note to Snoop Dogg: Apparently, you have more in common with "old-ass white men" than you thought. Good luck getting radio airplay on that next album, Snoop.

Note to Oliver Willis:
This will probably piss you off, what with me being a white man, and you being a "Cosbyian" and all, but this means that I now feel I have to support rap music against the coming assault on free speech. Yeah. It's called "consistency", if you were wondering.
 
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I’m talking about boycotting, I’m talking about picketing, I’m talking about paying me extortion money to go away, I’m talking about demanding that they do what they’ve done [when others are insulted]," Sharpton says
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Written By: shark
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"We’re going after the record industry. We’re going at a record company that has consistently put out the misogynistic records and the records using the N-word,"
Hannity had a nice group of recordings last week of ’Sharptongue’ and ’Jack-u-son’, and one of them was of Sharpie saying ’David Dinkens wants to be the only ni**ah on the stage... blah blah blah ... cuz he knows if a REAL ni**ah was standing next to him, they’d see him for the whore he is...’

Can we regulate this joker?
 
Written By: meagain
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Most of white America isn’t aware of an anti-n-word movement presently building throughout the black community which is being directed primarily at black users of the word and other demeaning terms. Insofar, as Imus is concerned, everything is about timing and his was all wrong...of course this goes without saying that he had no business saying what he said in the first place...but he did get caught up in something that’s brewing within the black community. To learn more please go to:

http://www.theunitedvoices.org
 
Written By: H. Lewis Smith
URL: http://www.theunitedvoices.org
Most of white America isn’t aware of an anti-n-word movement presently building throughout the black community which is being directed primarily at black users of the word and other demeaning terms.
Well good ... and, it’s about time.

As we’ve said often, we prefer seeing culture take care of the problem and not government.
Insofar, as Imus is concerned, everything is about timing and his was all wrong...of course this goes without saying that he had no business saying what he said in the first place...but he did get caught up in something that’s brewing within the black community.
He had as much "business" saying it as anyone else who says it. That’s the point about the double standard. You can’t, on one hand, say it’s alright for some and celebrate them when they use the words and then, otoh, declare others can’t use it and get them fired when they do and expect anyone to take you seriously.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Something must be done! When it gets to the point where an uppity white man thinks he can get away with using words used daily by a large segment of the black community, we have a problem! If Imus had gotten away with it, soon every honky would be using the *N* word again.
 
Written By: timactual
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Free Speech means Free Speech. If you support freedom of speech, you have to support the rights of those who’s speech you abhor. If I can censor your speech, then you can do the same to me.

Imus may be rude, crude and socially unacceptable. He should not be fired. I don’t like him, I don’t think he is interesting, smart, witty, or funny. Given the choice of watching Imus and a blank wall, I’d choose the wall, but I have no right keeping Imus fans from enjoying his rap.
 
Written By: James E. Fish
URL: http://faroutfishfiles.blogspot.com/
"I now feel I have to support rap music against the coming assault on free speech"
Surely you don’t mean it’s an assult on free speech if a company voluntarily decides to stop publishing or playing a certain kind of music, for whatever reason?
 
Written By: Aardvark
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Seriously, Imus getting fired is totally ok in my book on free speech. His money pulled out, and thus there goes your show, no problem with that, that is on him. Doesn’t mean we cant complain about the principal of it and the culture that encouraged it.
 
Written By: josh b
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Surely you don’t mean it’s an assult on free speech if a company voluntarily decides to stop publishing or playing a certain kind of music, for whatever reason?
Did you just totally ignore the bits about getting the FCC to regulate this stuff?
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
Seriously, Imus getting fired is totally ok in my book on free speech
Much as I think CBS/MSNBC were gutless cowards to do it, I have to agree. They had the right to fire him if they chose to do so. Of course, Imus had a contract so they have to pay up, or negotiate a settlement.
 
Written By: shark
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I think Imus getting fired was the correct business move on the part of CBS/MSNBC as advertisers began pulling out. This was not the curbing of free speech this was the free market in action. People were outraged, they complained, the company started losing money, so they got rid of the thing that caused them to lose money.

This in itself is not a threat to free speech, but it does make a point to other people about the level of discourse that will be tolerated by the american people. You cannot imply that a group of successful athletes have lice and sell themselves for money based on their gender and race without some kind of repercussion. Sad that it has taken this long.

As far as the music industry goes, I would love to see a national boycott of musicans who objectify women or use racist stereotypes in their music. But then pop music fans might as well just turn of their radios and stay home from the dance clubs. There is very little popular music out there that doesn’t do one or both of these things.

Going to the FCC about it is just ridiculous though. If people don’t want to listen to this crap anymore, then they will turn it off, and the companies will lose money and change tactics, just like CBS did. And no one can take economics to court and have it overturned.
 
Written By: Shinobi
URL: http://liesandstatistics.blogspot.com
He wasn’t arrested, or fined, etc for his speech.
Much like the Dixie Chicks, who discovered their audience didn’t care for their speech, Imus was literally and still is literally, free to say what he said, but
he has to find someone else to foot the bill for his living.

Free Speech doesn’t mean no consequences for what you say.

I hope no one is suggesting he has to continue to be paid for stupidity like "nappy headed hoes".


 
Written By: looker
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Going after rap is no great leap forward by Sharpton. He probably feels like it is a chance to "stick it" to "recording industry jews."
 
Written By: Rich Horton
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"Did you just totally ignore the bits about getting the FCC to regulate this stuff?"
Yeah, I missed that. Did you just totally feel that snark was required in your response?
 
Written By: Aardvark
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Did you just totally feel that snark was required in your response
If you have seen half of the crap Dale and the other guys take on these posts, you would know that the answer to your question is ’yup’.
 
Written By: meagain
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Well Meagain, I wasn’t giving any ’crap’.
 
Written By: Aardvark
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The market has a voice. I did business with P&G a few years ago. They purchased a large quantity of training materials on diversity. Why would any organization as widely diverse as P&G in employee base want to endorse Imus? I believe the major factors for this decision was, advertiser withdrawal, employee voices and the legal implications. To keep Imus could very well open the door to lawsuits.
 
Written By: Beth Kirkland
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Did you just totally ignore the bits about getting the FCC to regulate this stuff?
I’m on your side in this, Dale, but yes I did miss that part. Sharpton says: "I’m talking about boycotting, I’m talking about picketing, I’m talking about demanding that they do what they’ve done..." which frankly is part of his right to free speech. Doesn’t mention the FCC there.

Also in the linked article:
Sharpton agreed that there is inequality in the enforcement of FCC decency regulations.

"When Ice Tea did a record against cops they took it off the market. When Sistah Soldier did a record they said was offensive to whites they took it off the market. So, they didn’t use free speech with them. Now, all of a sudden they can’t stop calling our women ’whores’ and ’b——-s?’ They stopped them from shooting whites and shooting cops… You’ve got to have one standard."
The author is the one linking Sharpton and the FCC. Sharpton isn’t doing it himself, unless the FCC is the "they" Sharpton mentioned in his quote. Souljah’s Wikipedia entry doesn’t mention FCC trouble, nor does Cop Killer’s, so either Sharpton is misinformed, or he’s being credited with something he didn’t actually say. Could go either way.

If Sharpton leads protests or boycotts, that’s fine, more power to him. When he decisively goes to the FCC or government—and he very well might—then it becomes different.
 
Written By: The Unabrewer
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