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Gonzales and Reid: Time for both to go?
Posted by: mcq on Thursday, April 26, 2007

David Broder thinks so, and, in this case I'm not willing to argue. Gonzales, whether he did anything illegal or not has demonstrated he hasn't the stuff it takes to be the AG. And his support on the right, other than from Bush, hasn't even been lukewarm.

That said, no one that I've seen in DC quite matches Harry Reid in managing to represent a position so poorly that it is almost painful to watch. Equally as painful to watch have been the contortions his supporters have had to go through to attempt to "clarify" his position. Broder relates one example:
On "Fox News Sunday," Schumer offered this clarification of Reid's off-the-cuff comment. "What Harry Reid is saying is that this war is lost — in other words, a war where we mainly spend our time policing a civil war between Shiites and Sunnis. We are not going to solve that problem. . . . The war is not lost. And Harry Reid believes this — we Democrats believe it. . . . So the bottom line is if the war continues on this path, if we continue to try to police and settle a civil war that's been going on for hundreds of years in Iraq, we can't win. But on the other hand, if we change the mission and have that mission focus on the more narrow goal of counterterrorism, we sure can win."
Adds Broder:
Everyone got that? This war is lost. But the war can be won. Not since Bill Clinton famously pondered the meaning of the word "is" has a Democratic leader confused things as much as Harry Reid did with his inept discussion of the alternatives in Iraq.
Additionally, look carefully at Schumer's last sentence. He talks about changing the focus on the "more narrow goal of counterterrorism".

Speaking of "is", folks that is the "new mission". That is what Petraeus is there to do. He wrote the book on counterterrorism. That is what the surge is concentrating on. That is what the administration has done. Apparently the Democrats somehow missed that part of the mission brief.

Gonzales certainly wasn't impressive in his Congressional testimony nor in his role of AG. But his poor performance has been handily matched and in some cases exceeded by that of Harry Reid. When even the glib Charles Schumer can't explain away your verbal faux pas and you provide "outrage" ammunition to your political foes, maybe it's time for a change. Reid and Gonzales both seem ill suited for their present positions. Maybe it's time for Gonzales to go, and for Harry Reid to show him the way.
 
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Apropos of the punch line of the old joke, "I don’t have to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you", it really doesn’t matter that Reid is pretty silly/stupid/inconsistent. So long as Bush and his gang of incompetents are wandering around, Reid is going to look like the sane and smart one.

Were things different (dare to dream, shall we?), the Bush Administration, together with support from Republicans in Congress, would have been able to more than hold their own against the Democrats.

But, noooooooo! Bush picks some of the most incompetent press secretaries in history (Fleischer, McClellan and Snow: nice guys perhaps, but totally in over their heads. oh, were there a Republican Mike McCurry). Bush picks an incompetent as AG, then stands by him. Bush picks an incompetent as head of FEMA, then stands by him (firing him only after the damage was done). Bush doesn’t have the brains to confront Joe Wilson head on, so Libby and Rove have to play games that get them both in trouble and Libby convicted, and Rice facing a subpoena from Congress to explain why Bush ’lied’ in the SOTU address. And since Bush can’t/won’t outline - in detail - for the American people what he wants to do in Iraq, when he wants to have it done by and how we can follow the progress from our sofas and computer screens, the Reids and Pelosis can get away with claiming the war is lost and Bush is wasting lives by keeping our troops in Iraq.


BTW, McQ, some weeks (or months?) ago, you said you were waiting to see how things played out before you would declare Iraq a lost cause. Have you seen enough? Or are you still holding out hope that Bush is going to pull the rabbit out of the hat?
 
Written By: steve
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BTW, McQ, some weeks (or months?) ago, you said you were waiting to see how things played out before you would declare Iraq a lost cause. Have you seen enough? Or are you still holding out hope that Bush is going to pull the rabbit out of the hat?
I think we’ve been through that Steve ... and I was pretty clear that I felt we wouldn’t have any real data on the surge and it’s effect until well into late summer/early fall.
 
Written By: McQ
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McQ: I forgot that was the timing you were looking at, so I’ll hold off until Labor Day to ask you: with no decrease in the number of insurgent attacks, no decrease in the number of American and Iraqi deaths and injuries, with no visible sign that the Iraqi Army and police are anywhere close to assuming responsibility for security, with no evidence that the Iraqi government is stepping up to challenge the ever-present militias responsible for a good portion of the attacks, and with no evidence that Iraq is becoming a beacon of hope that will inspire the Islamic crazies to forever swear off terrorism, is it now time to acknowledge that Bush has no clue as to how to go about fulfilling his mission and that rather than waste more American lives, we ought to bring our troops home?
 
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steve, don’t waste your time. McQ will either move the goalposts again, or he’ll find a way to ignore all the evidence and blame all of Bush’s mistakes on the "defeatocrats."

After all, it’s not like the guy’s going to grow a brain between now and Labor Day.
 
Written By: Simon Foquesti
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After all, it’s not like the guy’s going to grow a brain between now and Labor Day.
Wow, a driveby. Can’t wait to see the wonderful pithy remark that only an ex ranger can come up with.
 
Written By: cap joe
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is it now time to acknowledge that Bush has no clue as to how to go about fulfilling his mission and that rather than waste more American lives, we ought to bring our troops home
Well, if you’re a loser. Otherwise, you figure out ways to win.
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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There really wasn’t anything to explain re: Reid’s alleged gaffe. Unless one was intentionally misreading him, there was no way to miss that he was saying something that any number of politicians on both sides of the aisle (up to and including Bush) already had.
 
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simon: that was a bit of a cheap and undeserved shot at mcq. while I think he’s placing too much hope in bush, I have yet to see any evidence of goalpost shifting.
 
Written By: steve sturm
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Speaking of "is", folks that is the "new mission". That is what Petraeus is there to do. He wrote the book on counterterrorism. That is what the surge is concentrating on. That is what the administration has done. Apparently the Democrats somehow missed that part of the mission brief.
What Schumer said was not a miss at all.
Schumer: "But on the other hand, if we change the mission and have that mission focus on the more narrow goal of counterterrorism, we sure can win."
It’s an example of what Blowjob Bill was so good at - triangulating - prepositioning yourself to take credit for potential successes for which you deserve absolutely no credit. At the least, it obfuscates the issues of who acutally deserves the credit.

I take Schumer’s quote to be indicative of current success of The Surge.
 
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there was no way to miss that he was saying something that any number of politicians on both sides of the aisle (up to and including Bush) already had.
And what would that be?
 
Written By: ChrisB
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Had it occurred to you that in Ried’s case, he’s doing the best job possible in representing the position, and it’s the position he represents that’s bad?

 
Written By: Bithead
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Well, if you’re a loser. Otherwise, you figure out ways to win.

And how long do you think it will be until Our Leader figures a way to win? Working on year five now...we’re waiting.

 
Written By: Pug
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Mr. Foquesti is obviously one of the sheeple who has been victimized by the LN.
”McQ will either move the goalposts again, or he’ll find a way to ignore all the evidence and blame all of Bush’s mistakes on the "defeatocrats."
What are the giveaways? “all the evidence” “Bush’s mistakes” and a jingo. Followed by a total lack of recognition of Mr. McQuain’s tepid support of President Bush, versus his supporting America in it’s efforts. According to the LN, if one supports our efforts in Iraq, one is a Bush supporter, period. Nuance is not a part of the LN, except when a tenet is clearly shown to be ridiculous by current events; then “nuance” is run out to squeeze by embarrassing gaffes in its holdings. Any idiot who cannot differentiate between supporting America and supporting President Bush…is definitely an LN victim.
 
Written By: notherbob2/robert fulton
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I’ll listen to Schumer when he explains Michael Steele’s credit report ending up in DNC hands under oath.
 
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