"Ramadi suicide blasts a blow to U.S. advances"
Yahoo headline (clicking to the story had another headline)
Have we ever seen a similar headline, say, "Zarkawi death a blow to Al Qaeda" or something like that?
Hey, for every policeman the Al Qaeda kill, I assume 10 more will fill their place....right? Why not?
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If the Dems can’t handle Fox....how can you expect them to handle real enemies? |
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Hosting a debate, Hosting coverage of a debate. Not all time same same. |
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how can you expect them to handle real enemies? They have a plan for that...they’ll do it smarter and better.
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Have we ever seen a similar headline, say, "Zarkawi death a blow to Al Qaeda" or something like that? Yes, we have.
From CNN: Capture a ’severe blow’ to al Qaeda in Iraq From USAToday:Blair says al-Zarqawi death important blow to al-Qaeda |
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He’s got ya there Harun. Of course us getting Zarqawi is like them killing one of our Generals. |
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Hosting a debate, Hosting coverage of a debate. Not all time same same. MSNBC did both.
In the case of Fox, the Congressional Black Caucus was hosting the debate and Fox was covering it.
Tell me why that’s unacceptable, but the MSNBC template is ok. |
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Not to undermine your argument, or anything, McQ, but the story you’re covering started when the Guliani campaign complained to MSNBC about them letting Olberman anywhere near the debate coverage.
So I guess this is you vs. Guliani on this one, right, with you arguing that both Olberman and Beck should both be allowed to moderate debates? I could live with that, except the right wing would love to play Lucy with that football.
You’re running up a sand dune when you try to pretend that there’s anything unique about Democrats working the media. Personally, I’d accept that Glenn Beck and Keith Olberman are similar in character and objectivity. The difference is that Glenn Beck’s total lack of even the pretense of objectivity is totally ignored - or actively denied -, whereas Olberman’s lack of objectivity is portrayed as a scandal.
The other difference between Olberman and Beck, which you continue to ignore, is that Olberman is a single individual on MSNBC, whereas 97% of all programming on Fox is a mirror image of Glenn Beck in POV. Fox has a uniform and consistent agenda and MSNBC does not. It’s as clear as day if you choose to discuss it. Only four years ago, Phil Donohue was fired from MSNBC despite high ratings exactly because he sounded somewhat like Olberman.
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Not to undermine your argument, or anything, McQ, but the story you’re covering started when the Guliani campaign complained to MSNBC about them letting Olberman anywhere near the debate coverage. Doesn’t undermine it a bit, ’nost. Guliani may have complained but he didn’t pull out or try to make MSNBC the scape goat, did he? |
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he didn’t pull out or try to make MSNBC the scape goat, did he?
Logically, it was too late to pull out. As for #2, open to question, too lazy to find the quotes from his spokesman, but it seems pretty similar except for the lack of pulling out.
And, again: Olberman is a single individual on MSNBC, whereas 97% of all programming on Fox is a mirror image of Glenn Beck in POV. Fox has a uniform and consistent agenda and MSNBC does not.
The bottom line is that the Democratic Debate came out better in the public view for and of the Democrats by not being on Fox. In other news, Bush admin personnel and Republican candidates grant interviews with PowerLine and HughHewitt, but not with DKos, for identical reasons.
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Logically, it was too late to pull out. Nonsense. We’re talking politics and he’d have pleased a large portion of the base if he’d have said "no" to being in the same forum with Olberman. |
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Pogue,
Thanks for the headlines...I truly feel better. Maybe its just Yahoo (my normal news source) that tends to drive me crazy.
I should have done a google search before complaining too, they even used the word "blow!" Must be like Bus plunge. |
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Olberman is a single individual on MSNBC Well, most of them say far fewer Batsh*t crazy things than Olbermann, but they are more ideologically uniform than FOX. Fox is more tabloidish and sensationalist, but less uniform.whereas 97% of all programming on Fox is a mirror image of Glenn Beck in POV No, much as at MSNBC, many may be conservative, but they say far less extreme things than Glenn Beck (assuming lefty blogs, Greenwald and Mona can be trusted, I have never listened to the man.)
Besides, the issue was FOX and specifically Brit Hume, who can in no way be compared to Beck or Olbermann. |
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with you arguing that both Olberman and Beck should both be allowed to moderate debates? I could live with that, except the right wing would love to play Lucy with that football. Sure He’s saying they should be allowed (I suppose), but also that Brit Hume should be allowed to as well. How is it ok for Olberman, and not for Hume? |
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Olberman is a single individual on MSNBC, whereas 97% of all programming on Fox is a mirror image of Glenn Beck in POV. Fox has a uniform and consistent agenda and MSNBC does not. Wow. It must take a couple pitchers of Kool Aid to wash that pill down. Even then, I’m betting an unhingable lower jaw is still required to get that down the old Asp hole.
Canceling on Fox isn’t "working the media", it’s playing to the far-left commie base. Maybe that’s good politics, maybe it isn’t, but sure aint "working the media".
The fact of the matter is there is no completely-unhinged-yet-still-very-influential corollary on the right to **** the bed over a similar move by the Republicans.
I can’t think of a clearer example of which party is more captive of it’s extreme wing.
[Whiny, Liberal, piss ant voice] "We won’t even go on you stupid TV channel, so nah!".[/Whiny, Liberal, piss ant voice]
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