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Live, from the Senate floor ....
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, May 08, 2007

The CarpetBagger Report is all upset:
Roll Call reports today that a House Republican delivered a foreign policy speech yesterday in which he quoted Nathan Bedford Forrest, founder of the KKK.

On Monday, Rep. Ted Poe took to the House floor to discuss foreign policy matters. To make a point, the Texas Republican invoked the words of Civil War Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest: “Git thar fustest with the mostest.”

The quotation got some floor watchers’ attention pretty quickly. Forrest is a controversial figure who was one of the Klan’s first grand wizards. Although the Civil War hero (if you were a Confederate, that is) ultimately abandoned the Klan for its violent tactics, he continues to kick up dust.
“Controversial figure” doesn’t quite cut it. Most lists of the worst Americans in U.S. history include Nathan Bedford Forrest near the top. That’s what happens when someone creates the KKK to terrorize freed slaves and their allies, after taking up arms against the United States. What on earth would possess a GOP lawmaker to quote Forrest on the House floor?
Oh I don't know, couldn't get Robert Byrd (D-WV) because he was busy on the Senate floor?
 
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Hey, any guy that was the source of Gump’s name can’t be all bad...
 
Written By: Scott
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"Git thar fustest with the mostest."
What?
 
Written By: ChrisB
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’Get there first with the most’ is an approximate Southern-to-English translation.

Basicly, get to the objective before the enemy, with more men/equipment/supplies than the enemy...
 
Written By: Scott
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’Get there first with the most’ is an approximate Southern-to-English translation.
Basicly, get to the objective before the enemy, with more men/equipment/supplies than the enemy...
It is NOT it is a Crypto-Fascist call for the New CKlan, Rethug’s in Red Power Ties, to begin their march on D.C., during the Congressional Summer Recess, bringing about the long-planned and heralded New America....and you can’t fool me.

 
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And Rommel served what was arguably the most evil regime ever to grace the face of the earth: Doesn’t mean he wasn’t an extremely talented commander. Forrest falls into the same category. He was a miserable excuse for a human being, but he was pretty impressive as a cavalry officer, and the fact that that (mis)quote comes from an unpleasant person doesn’t make it A) false or B) irrelevant.
 
Written By: Lysenko
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It is NOT it is a Crypto-Fascist call for the New CKlan, Rethug’s in Red Power Ties, to begin their march on D.C., during the Congressional Summer Recess, bringing about the long-planned and heralded New America....and you can’t fool me
Damn...

I had to try...

Whita Powah!!!

*Note: I’m kidding... eff the klan, I hate the whole racist bunch of them, and I long for them to pull a Jonestown...
 
Written By: Scott
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"War means fighting; fighting means killing"
 
Written By: Thomas
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My fiance is a direct descendant of Nathan Bedford Forrest. Which is funny because she’s a fairly liberal Democrat. I love her all the same.

Also, it is disputed that Forrest was one of the founders of the KKK. He supported the original organization but later distanced himself and urged them to disband because of their tendency toward violence.
 
Written By: the wolf
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The Klan as it exists today didn’t even come into being until 1915 or so. Seeing that Forrest died in 1877, that would make it slightly difficult for him to have ’established’ anything.

There was a de-reconstructionist version of the Klan, established sometime in the 1860s, and was wiped out in 1870 by U.S. Grant. While Forrest was involved with them early on, he repudiated and seperated himself from it when they started becoming a roving gang.
 
Written By: Buddy
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I suppose it would have made carpetbagger (interesting juxtaposition, someone calling themselves carpetbagger complaining about N.B. Forrest) happier if the guy had quoted something from SUN TZU which said (and SUN TZU probably did say it) the same thing.

No no no, let’s worry about the source!!! not the strategy.

If a Republican suggests we’re going to use Blitzkrieg tactics, he MUST be a NAZI! If he quotes Napoleon and says "force equals mass times velocity!" he must be a closet French Imperialist bent on the domination of Europe!
 
Written By: looker
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Thank God the man didn’t say we ought to be niggardly with our use of troops!
 
Written By: looker
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And so, we’re supposed to take offense at who said something, as opposed to being more concerned over what was said?

I mean certainly, that doesn’t mean we trust everything that’s said by everybody... but how is the idea expressed, offensive, within the context offered?




 
Written By: Bithead
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If Ted Poe had a radio show, he could be fired for that!
 
Written By: shark
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but how is the idea expressed, offensive, within the context offered?
Simple, my dear friend...

They are liberals, and thus are bug-f*ck nuts.

I am concerned. How is it that you needed this questioned answered? ;)
 
Written By: Scott
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Bedford was a brilliant cavalry officer. The quote is actually "Get there first with the most men." If anything, his involvement in the Fort Pillow massacre should be the point of controversy rather than his involvement with the Klan. He did not see the goal of the Klan as targeting blacks, but rather in ejecting the carpetbaggers and impeding Reconstruction. In fact he left the Klan and ordered it to disband because he disagreed with the violent, racialist direction it began to take.

It’s really neither here nor there though. Erwin Rommel and Otto Skorzeny were brilliant commanders as well. Their association with Nazi Germany doesn’t make their leadership and military achievements any lesser.
 
Written By: J
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I guess that means no more quoting of those slave-owning Greeks and Romans. No more "Omnia Gallia in tres partes divisa est". That does simplify school curicula. Oops! are we allowed to use Latin or Greek, the languages of war-mongering imperialist slave merchants?
 
Written By: timactual
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No more "Omnia Gallia in tres partes divisa est".
No, that’s still in. Julius Caesar may or may not have been bisexual, so he’s in a protected class. It’s okay to quote him.
 
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