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MRAP will replace armored Humvee
Posted by: McQ on Friday, May 11, 2007

If you've been wondering what the new vehicle that should increase the survivability of our troops against IEDs looks like, this is it:

The Pentagon will phase out its armored Humvees in Iraq and Afghanistan and send in vehicles that better withstand roadside bomb blasts, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Wednesday.

Replacing the Humvee, the military's main troop-transport vehicle, will be the Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle, known as an MRAP. Military officials say the new vehicles provide twice as much protection against improvised explosive devices (IEDs), which cause 70% of all U.S. casualties in Iraq.

Armored Humvees were "the best we had," Gates said. "Now we have something better, and we're going to get that to the field as best we can."

No Marines had been killed in the 300 attacks on Marine MRAPs in Anbar province, USA TODAY reported on April 19. Last week, two Army soldiers were killed when a bomb struck their MRAP in Iraq.
The Humvee was never designed to be an armored vehicle. It was a replacement for the venerable jeep, but really nothing more. And while the adaptation to an uparmored vehicle has helped save lives, because of its basic design, it simply hasn't been an adequate platform to really build on the protection necessary. The MRAP is specifically designed to help counter the effects of IEDs. But, as can be seen from the stats above, it isn't perfect protection.
Getting the MRAPs is "the highest priority Department of Defense acquisition program," Gates said in a memo last week to the secretaries of the Army and Navy. In that memo, first reported Wednesday by InsideDefense.com, Gates said he was concerned the Marines has ordered 3,700 of the vehicles, while the Army only sought 2,500. The Army has about 100,000 troops in Iraq; the Marines have 25,000.

Gates and other Pentagon officials plan to meet Friday to determine how many more vehicles the military will buy. "My understanding … is that the Army has been recalibrating its interest and has substantially increased the number of these vehicles they think they can use," Gates said.
I'd guess, and that's strictly what it is, that the Army was ordering only what it thought was necessary for "outside the wire" patrolling. Humvees are not being phased out, but replaced for just such operations by the MRAP.
The new vehicles feature a V-shaped hull that disperses explosions from below. All services have ordered a total of 7,700 MRAPs for $8 billion over the next 18 months, but Gates indicated the Pentagon could buy many more.

The Army now has 18,000 armored Humvees in Iraq. It originally planned to spend another $2.5 billion this year to buy more, Army budget records show.

Army spokesman Paul Boyce said Wednesday the service has 1,100 mine-protected vehicles in Iraq. The MRAP won't completely replace the Humvee in Iraq or future conflicts, he said.
As with most things, this isn't new. South Africa's "Casspir" is essentially the MRAP and has proven very successful in withstanding similar conditions now being encountered in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
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Ah the Cougar...

Teflon Don’s driven one... Driven it and gotten to enjoy it’s protections...

All I know is I want one... I so want one...
 
Written By: Scott
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I can’t wait to get my hands on the consumer version! Can it clear the drive-through at McDonald’s?
 
Written By: Luke
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I can’t wait to get my hands on the consumer version!
Dude it weighs ten tons, you’ll need a Commercial License.
Can it clear the drive-through at McDonald’s?

With M 230 LF 30mm it can clear the drive thru, it can clear up a crowd or pretty much anything else in your town you don’t like.


 
Written By: Joe
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Can it clear the drive-through at McDonald’s
I think the people who should worry about clearance in McD’s... :)
With M 230 LF 30mm it can clear the drive thru, it can clear up a crowd or pretty much anything else in your town you don’t like.
Joe, they don’t make enough ammo...
 
Written By: Scott
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It looks awfully tall. Not a problem against insurgents using IEDs, but what about an enemy with anti=tank weapons?
 
Written By: Harun
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dude... those windows are like 4 inches thick...

I think the RPGs would BOUNCE...

Maybe scuff the paint a little...
 
Written By: Scott
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Gates said production capacity is "nowhere near what it needs to be to meet the demand on the part of either the Army or the Marine Corps."
With the Democrats playing politics with our soldiers lives, don’t expect an increase in production soon. The more dead grunts, the better chance the Democrats will have to surrender.
 
Written By: James E. Fish
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Whatever happened to the Stryker? I thought that it was designed at least partially with this sort of thing in mind. This certainly complicates logistics. We now have in the inventory the Stryker, the Bradley, M-113s and its variants, Humvees, this new vehicle, and I don’t know how many others. Just keeping the publications up to date in a battallion maintainence platoon must be a real pain. Keeping parts inventories at prescribed levels must be really interesting.
 
Written By: timactual
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But, as can be seen from the stats above, it isn’t perfect protection.
If it’s not ABSOLUTELY PERFECT in ALL RESPECTS then it is a MISERABLE FAILURE!

We need to stop all orders of this FATALLY DEFECTVE vehicle that is putting our KIDS in uniform at HORRIBLE RISK!

(/donkey mode)
 
Written By: Random Numbers
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Whatever happened to the Stryker?
These cost less and perhaps might be able to fit inside a C-130.
 
Written By: unaha-closp
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"We need to stop all orders of this FATALLY DEFECTVE vehicle that is putting our KIDS in uniform at HORRIBLE RISK!"

Where is Ralph Nader when you need him?

"These cost less and perhaps might be able to fit inside a C-130."

The Stryker can fit in a C-130, and it is already in the inventory. It is also designed, alledgedly, to be mine resistant. Why haven’t they been using it, at least until this new vehicle is available? As I recall, a good part of the rationale for acquiring the Stryker to replace the Bradley was its suitability to be used in this type of role.
 
Written By: timactual
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The Stryker can fit in a C-130,
Correction - take one Stryker then remove the guns, radio mast, ammo, crew, fuel and deflate the tyres and then override safety requirements on a C-130 and you may transport an infantry carrier variant Stryker.

Unfortunately in making the Stryker so light and easy to deploy they had to cut back on minor things like anti-RPG armour.
 
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