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XM: Cut and Censored
Posted by: Dale Franks on Tuesday, May 15, 2007

So much for "extreme talk" on XM. Yesterday, Opie and Anthony criticized the radio industry, including XM, for being too willing to cave into criticism from special interest groups.

In return, XM announced today that the pair have been suspended for 30 days on XM:
"Comments made by Opie and Anthony on yesterday's broadcast put into question whether they appreciate the seriousness of the matter," Washington-based XM said in a statement Tuesday. "The management of XM Radio decided to suspend Opie and Anthony to make clear that our on-air talent must take seriously the responsibility that creative freedom requires of them."
Or, lose that creative freedom, evidently.
 
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you know you have gone too far when you get kicked off of pay radio!
 
Written By: kyleN
URL: http://impudent.blognation.us/blog
Don’t they serve at the pleasure of XM?

 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://
Boo hoo.

The fact they got enough heat to bring this about over comedy about raping someone restores some faith in humanity.

Of course, they could always release their content to their slavering public through some other medium. There’s no censorship or abridgement of 1st amendment rights here.

Dale is free to quit buying XM if he’s revolted enough by their throwing cold water on his mind porn.

I hope he finds his helmet soon.

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
URL: http://
They criticized their own employer....id get suspended or worse. No surprise here. I see no issue here.
 
Written By: josh b
URL: http://
Aaaaaand?

Seriously Dale, how is this even an issue? O&A said some things that got the heat turned on to their employer, employer decides it’s in their best interest to suspend them. Shock comes with that risk and after the Imus kerfluffle, can you blame them?

On the other side, I’m willing to bet most of the pressure is coming from people who don’t even listen to O&A and are outraged at what was said. For that, I have issues because they could just do what I do and that’s not even subscribe to the crap (I like lowbrow humor from time to time, but I prefer to be entertained with a little more class).

Is this not the free market working?
 
Written By: Robb Allen
URL: http://blog.robballen.com
Don’t they serve at the pleasure of XM?
Oh absolutely, but then it was XM who set up the channel and essentially told them that nothing was really taboo. Apparently that isn’t true.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
They’re as good as fired. 30 days off air is a heavy heavy stroke. What will happen XM wants the attention to die down, then around day 20 of the suspension, news will break on a Friday afternoon (possibly even as soon as Memorial day weekend)that they’re fired.

XM can do whatever they want with O&A. When they lose customers due to their actions, they may feel differently....or maybe they wont seeing as they really want that merger to happen and Marconi and Mel would’ve wasted no time in axing them anyway.
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
Dale is free to quit buying XM if he’s revolted enough by their throwing cold water on his mind porn.

I hope he finds his helmet soon.
I am canceling XM today...if I can get through. I couldn’t yesterday.

Oh, and you know what you can do with my helmet?

Just because you’re a humorless prude doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be allowed to take part in an adult conversation.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
Oh, and you know what you can do with my helmet?
No Dale. Tell us.
Just because you’re a humorless prude doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be allowed to take part in an adult conversation.
Dale, right now, I actually believe that you can’t tell it isn’t the XXXs that makes a conversation one between adults.

That’s even more sad than you bawling out Boortz for sharing his opinion about Opie and Anthony, it’s apotheoetically pathetic.

Yours, TDP, ml, ms, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
URL: http://
"On the other side, I’m willing to bet most of the pressure is coming from people who don’t even listen to O&A and are outraged at what was said. For that, I have issues because they could just do what I do and that’s not even subscribe to the crap..."

Perhaps the management fears that other prospective customers will feel the same way and not subscribe to the crap.

"Just because you’re a humorless prude "

I find a great deal of humor in this situation. Particularly when devotees of the free market expect someone else to subsidize their creative freedom or listening preferences. O&A are perfectly free to start their own show and say whatever they want. Of course they will have to round up their own "special interest groups" (aka sponsors and listeners) to pay their salaries.
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
Particularly when devotees of the free market expect someone else to subsidize their creative freedom or listening preferences.
Slightly different here in that O&A was pay content- their fans WERE subsidizing their show via subscriptions, almost all specifically for that show.

XM yanked off content that was paid for. They now owe customers at least a 1 month credit to their accounts.

It has to do with the merger somehow, I’m sure of it
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
If nothing else, I’d suggest that this episode is a classic example of how things work despite the lack of some governmental intervention. Market forces, and all that.

 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://
Oh, and you know what you can do with my helmet?
No Dale. Tell us.
I think he means you can shove it up your ass...to be blunt and all XXX adult and stuff

Look i got no problem with this kind of stuff, heck iv been a long time listener of NHBradio (www.nhbradio.com). I just don’t see any problem with what happened, i do not know the specifics of what was said, but if they insulted their employer i see that as a perfectly logical reason they would get a suspension. What is the uproar about? Uncensored, sure, no rules, sure, but don’t crap where you eat as they say.
 
Written By: josh b
URL: http://
Again I ask Dale, how is this not a perfect example of the Free Market in action? Unless some sort of Gubmint entity was threatening them, the owners can do as they please.

And I hope all the people who like O&A cancel their subscriptions. And I hope, when all is said and done, that the owners look at the loss and make the best business decision they can. Maybe the loss is ok, maybe not.
 
Written By: Robb Allen
URL: http://blog.robballen.com
Again I ask Dale, how is this not a perfect example of the Free Market in action?
Well, first of all, the move was clearly made in opposition to subscriber wishes. It seems to me that the impetus comes mainly from fear of government regulation, either because of the proposed merger, or the proposals to regulate the satellite spectrum. This is not, therefore, a market-imposed move, but rather a move in response to the chilling effect of proposed government involvement.

Second, XM made an explicit promise to subscribers to provide uncensored talk radio. That promise to subscribers was false. I paid for the service on the strength of that promise. XM accepted the payment, then reneged on the promise.

Third, many of you act as if I have no right to criticize XM because they are a private entity who can do what they want. Well, guess what, so am I, and that includes criticizing XM for things I don’t like.

Just because a private entity does something doesn’t mean I have to like or agree with it.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
Well, first of all, the move was clearly made in opposition to subscriber wishes. It seems to me that the impetus comes mainly from fear of government regulation, either because of the proposed merger, or the proposals to regulate the satellite spectrum.
Your thinking is quite blinkered if you think the subscribers attracted to primarily the OnA show is whole of the market.

The whole of the market said "step on ’em a little" and so they were stepped on. No threats of violence or coercion, and no more blackmail involved than in deciding to consume or not.
This is not, therefore, a market-imposed move, but rather a move in response to the chilling effect of proposed government involvement.
And the reality that the FCC may assert the authority to regulate such programming has nothing to do with the appropriateness of Boortz calling in the clans on this boorish, trashy show, which evidently let their listeners get their vicarious kicks at the expense at least of what little dignity the mentally ill homeless have.

To go by the clip you linked to, anyway.

Maybe some of the show’s actually funny.

But their suspension IS free market. Boortz isn’t the FCC.
Second, XM made an explicit promise to subscribers to provide uncensored talk radio. That promise to subscribers was false. I paid for the service on the strength of that promise. XM accepted the payment, then reneged on the promise.
Well good on you for cancelling your subscription, you’re in the right. What’s Boortz got to with that? XM should have ignored them, and they didn’t, but what he said was fine.
Third, many of you act as if I have no right to criticize XM because they are a private entity who can do what they want. Well, guess what, so am I, and that includes criticizing XM for things I don’t like.
Well they may be guessing wrong, but they have to make the best decision they can in regard to the sum of circumstances. I don’t see where anyone here is acting like we don’t think you have the right to criticize XM, in fact I think you have better cause than Boortz does.

I do think it’s amusing and a little sad that you seem to be so easily bruised by the hurly burly attendent to the liberty of free speech.
Just because a private entity does something doesn’t mean I have to like or agree with it.
Who said you did? I’m excoriating you for being outraged Boortz expressed an opinion, nevermind your red herring about the VT victims.

And most of the VT victims did buy into a "victimise me" mentality. So does most of society. That is not solely the fault of the other people affecting their lives. Anybody can read a history book.

I think you’d agree to that.

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
URL: http://
Well, first of all, the move was clearly made in opposition to subscriber wishes.
Well, clearly, it can easily be said that it was made in opposition of YOUR preferences. Whether not that translates to ALL subscribers as you seem to be applying here, is another matter.

In any event, if you think for one minute that Neil Boortz or anybody else on the terestrial broadcast side, has anything whatsoever to do with this situation, you are sadly mistaken. What’s going on here is not a call for decency on the part of talk show hosts per say. What is going on is an attempt by Congress to control talk radio. That’s what Neal is worried about.

The fact of the matter was and remains that XM and Cirius are trying to merge, and they’re trying to get that merger by a democratic Congress, who is quite willing at this point to apply the standards of the "fairness" doctrine to such choices.... (Are you reading this, Bruce?) Apparently the people at both companies are very concerned about rocking the boat, while their fate rests in the hands of a Democrat party controlled Congress.

Other than that point, here’s one discussion where Perkins, Allen and I are on the same page.


 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://bitsblog.florack.us
"Slightly different here in that O&A was pay content- their fans WERE subsidizing their show via subscriptions, almost all specifically for that show."

Oh. Right. I forgot that small point. I just might have to rethink and/or rephrase part of my comment. By the way, is ’duh’ capitalized?

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"I think he means you can shove it up your ass...to be blunt and all XXX adult and stuff"

They let you say ’ass’ here? It doesn’t get filtered? Great! Now I can be truly creative! Ass ass ass ass ass! Now I am as funny as O&A! do you think I can fill in for them during their suspension if I promise to say the F word a lot?
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
Your thinking is quite blinkered if you think the subscribers attracted to primarily the OnA show is whole of the market.
No, but it’s a significant portion of that market. XM is discovering just how significant as we speak.
 
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