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O&A, Again
Posted by: Dale Franks on Wednesday, May 16, 2007

What Jim treacher said.

And, yes, I did cancel my XM subscription today.
 
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I cancelled mine about a month after I bought my iPod. Now I listen to music and podcasts all the time on it. I still have everything from XM though, perhaps I should sell it on eBay.
 
Written By: John
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What Tom Perkins said:
Oh, and you know what you can do with my helmet?

No Dale. Tell us.

Just because you’re a humorless prude doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be allowed to take part in an adult conversation.

Dale, right now, I actually believe that you can’t tell it isn’t the XXXs that makes a conversation one between adults.

That’s even more sad than you bawling out Boortz for sharing his opinion about Opie and Anthony, it’s apotheoetically pathetic.

Yours, TDP, ml, ms, & pfpp

Written By: Tom Perkins
Since you’re so enamored of crudeness masquerading as humor here’s a little something to tide you over.
"song."
"song."
"song"

That’s also for all you people that said "shut the radio off if you don’t like it" with so little understanding that it seeps into the "culture" no matter how many times you turn off the radio.
 
Written By: tom scott
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And you, of course, are the arbiter of acceptable culture, huh? It’s not enough for you to decide what’s best for you. Now you want to decide what’s best for me.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
That’s also for all you people that said "shut the radio off if you don’t like it" with so little understanding that it seeps into the "culture" no matter how many times you turn off the radio.
Huh. You’d almost think there was a...market for this stuff, huh?

But of course, that can’t be. because that would be, you know, wrong.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
I could care less about what these guys said (or what was said by someone else) on their program, but the government didn’t come in and shut them down, so I’m not sure what the issue is. A private company like XM can’t decide for themselves what content they do or do not want to carry? XM (or any other broadcaster for that matter) already gets to decide what you have the chance to watch or hear. (Would terrestial radio suck so badly if it were otherwise?)

I can understand folks complaining who subscribe specifically to listen to these guys, but there is NO overarching moral/political/legal point to be made here. And no reason for anyone but fans of this show to get their knickers in a twist. (I subscribe for MLB...which I’m listening to right now...Cards up 3-1.)

To me this all sounds the same as those folks who complain about their favorite TV show getting snuffed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know...life isn’t fair.

Sorry to sound so flippant, but I don’t see the federal case here.
 
Written By: Rich Horton
URL: http://www.iconicmidwest.blogspot.com
That’s right, kids: The government is the only thing you have to worry about.
 
Written By: Jim Treacher
URL: http://dailygut.com
It’s the fact that people are making a federal case over what was said on their show. It’s just insane. You have to actively see out there show. You have to paid money to hear this sort of stuff on their show.

You don’t tune to these guys expecting high debate. These two aren’t reciting Shakespear...
 
Written By: Scott
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Alright you have two things here:

1) People complaining about the content on the program, and

2) People complaining about the people complaining about the content on the program.

They sound exactly the same to me.

Last time I checked it was XM that was paying out the salary to O&A. If they don’t like their job performance they can do what they want.

Or maybe you would prefer a Rousseau-istic vision where the subscribers all share equally in the XM bounty, and it is the General (XM Subscriber) Will that should rule the day?

Ugh.

 
Written By: Rich Horton
URL: http://www.iconicmidwest.blogspot.com
Last time I checked, it was the SUBSCRIBERS paying out the salary to O&A.
 
Written By: Jim Treacher
URL: http://dailygut.com
Jim,

So what??? I pay to subscribe to my local newspaper as well. I may not like the decisions of the editorial board, but it is THEIR newspaper. You are perfectly able to take your business elsewhere (as I can with the local paper), and that is where this issue ends.

Whatever XM has promised you or any other subscriber, they never promised that subscribers would be able to excercise editorial control over the programming.
 
Written By: Rich Horton
URL: http://www.iconicmidwest.blogspot.com
So what???
So what indeed, my friend. So what indeed...
 
Written By: Jim Treacher
URL: http://dailygut.com
Last time I checked, it was the SUBSCRIBERS paying out the salary to O&A.
And if their middle school antics lose subscribers what is XM to do?
And you, of course, are the arbiter of acceptable culture, huh? It’s not enough for you to decide what’s best for you. Now you want to decide what’s best for me.
All I’m suggesting is this. Remember when cable TV was where risque entertainment would be shown. Prime time on the alphabet channels would be kept wholesome for the kiddies? Well, it didn’t stay on cable did it. No matter how many times you turned it off. You didn’t subscribe to cable but now it’s on stations your children watch. Saying "if you don’t like it turn it off" is stoopid.
As for Trenchant Treacher I rather agree with Al at Cold Fury.
 
Written By: tom scott
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Me too.
 
Written By: Jim Treacher
URL: http://dailygut.com
And if their middle school antics lose subscribers what is XM to do?
But they weren’t losing subscribers. There was no big huffing-and-puffing exodus from XM. Not until they pulled the carpet out from O&A, for reasons far removed from how many listeners they were getting.
Saying "if you don’t like it turn it off" is stoopid.
No, it’s really not. If you don’t like what’s on a particular cable channel, watch another channel, and if you don’t like what seeps onto the other channels, because—heaven forfend!—it’s popular and profitable, don’t watch them either. This is not difficult.

And don’t say, "But then I can’t watch anything on TV!"
Because you know the answer to that, don’t you?
 
Written By: Bryan Pick
URL: http://www.qando.net
No, it’s really not. If you don’t like what’s on a particular cable channel, watch another channel, and if you don’t like what seeps onto the other channels, because—heaven forfend!—it’s popular and profitable, don’t watch them either. This is not difficult.
So it’s OK if I lose something to watch but horrendous if Dale should lose what he wants to listen to. Seems to me we have both lost choice but only Dale’s loss matters. Is that right Bryan?
Incidentally, I watch very little TV. When I do I usually opt Forensic Science type shows. TV and movies are marketed for those with disposable income-ie teenagers.
 
Written By: tom scott
URL: http://
Tom Scott,

It’s not personal, it’s the market. Entertainment is a product. If a person’s entertainment preferences don’t happen to be shared by enough others to make matching them economically profitable (or at very least viable) for those who sell that particular product, then entertainment with those particular specifications is not likely to be ... well ... produced. This applies equally to yours, Dale’s, mine, or anybody else’s preferences.

Bottom line: Keeping O&A means XM loses some customers in protest of keeping them. Scrapping O&A means XM loses some customers in protest of scrapping them. XM had to decide which they felt would cost them fewer customers, and they chose (correctly or incorrectly) scrapping.
 
Written By: Achillea
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Very nice work, admin! Have advised. It is healthy.
 
Written By: Dillan
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