Ah, good. People will be held accountable. There will be consequences. Serious ones, no doubt. Phew! And once that is settled, we can send them into Iraq as per the good Dr. Erb’s suggestion. That should settle things down but quick! |
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Personally, I liked this part of the presser, not included in the article linked here, but which I did blog about yesterday...The team’s report was buried by the UN itself to “avoid political fallout”. |
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Keith_Indy
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Jack Murtha would fit in well there. |
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What would you do, Dale? Ban Pakistan from contributing troops?
Of course, when violent instability breaks out somewhere, you’d then be one of those people bashing the UN for "doing nothing".
So that’s clearly not an option. So, how would you, as the UN for a moment, solve this problem? |
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err, nevermind, should really read more closely... |
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Keith_Indy
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You know, I think the point is, UN peacekeeping isn’t a magic wand that miraculously will fix every problem it’s waved over.
Sure, the US military has it’s share problems, but the UN has more problems, at least from the history I’ve seen.
Between this scandal and all the sex scandals related to peace keeper operations. And add on top of that, that the UN tried to bury this report. And on top of that, all the other inefficiencies you get with any large bureaucracy.
And we’re supposed to lovingly cede authority to our troops to them. |
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Keith_Indy
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What would you do, Dale? Ban Pakistan from contributing troops? How about we start with swift justice being served. If someone broke the law in uniform in the name of the UN, prosecute them IMMEDIATELY.Of course, when violent instability breaks out somewhere, you’d then be one of those people bashing the UN for "doing nothing". They are INCAPABLE of doing SOMETHING. Time and time again they prove it, but time and time again, people like you and Dr. Erb want to throw them back into the breach.
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But but but....these are the international bodies that I’m told if we would just get involved in Iraq, everything would be "smarter and better!"(tm)
I don’t understand! This can’t be!
Only WE are corrupt, only WE are bozos, only WE are a threat to world peace, harmony and free tofu for all!
Why, these guys should like a bunch of corrupt bozos!
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Of course, when violent instability breaks out somewhere, you’d then be one of those people bashing the UN for "doing nothing". Really? I would?
Honestly, have you ever actually read my stuff? |
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There will be consequences. Serious ones, no doubt. Boy, I bet those will be some very harsh and nasty letters they get from the UN... |
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So that’s clearly not an option. So, how would you, as the UN for a moment, solve this problem? It’s not an option only in YOUR mind, because you think the UN is a credible organization.
Ever hear of the League of Nations? |
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"U.N. spokeswoman Michele Montas said there are two investigations under way."
Only two? That is clearly inadequate. In addition to at least two more in-house investigations, some outside consultants need to be hired to conduct at least two more independant investigations. Then someone must be hired to audit and review these investigations.
""The secretary-general looks forward to the early completion of the investigation," Montas said"
Early is, of course, a relative word. I am assuming she means early in the next decade.
" Ban Pakistan from contributing troops?"
Why not? One would think they would be more usefully occupied on their own border areas, looking for Taliban, etc.
"Boy, I bet those will be some very harsh and nasty letters they get from the UN..."
Hey! Don’t you realize the damage to ones self-esteem one of these letters can do? The shame and loss of face among ones fellow bureaucrats? This is seerious bizness! |
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Damn, Dale, now there’s sarcasm burns all over the inside of my monitor. |
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some outside consultants At least two of which must be related to the Sec-Gen. |
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What would you do, Dale? Ban Pakistan from contributing troops? How about banning them from taking bribes. :)
Again, it is always an all or nothing with you, nost.
I think the key point of this article was the the UN wants to cover up the corruption. So how do you remove corruption? BY shining hard bright lights on it. Corruption can’t stand inquiry. However, the UN feeds and enables it by being too afraid of pissing off the third world. If they found this sort of behavior in the US, it would have been trumpeted from the top of the UN tower. |
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I think the key point of this article was the the UN wants to cover up the corruption.
That’s what been alledged. And cheered on by the same people who were aghast when lefties claimed the US military was trying to cover up, for example, Haditha, when the military was in the middle of conducting an investigation on the subject. Since the UN is in fact conducting investigations, more evidence of a cover-up will be needed than the simple fact that prosecutions haven’t happened yet. I don’t see any documented examples of actual UN actions that would equate to some form of cover up. I don’t even see any on-the-record accusations of specific acts by specific people with names.
In any event,
Honestly, have you ever actually read my stuff?
Let’s put it like this: there’s a vast conservative audience of UN bashing for inaction. If you want to be excluded, I’ll take your word for it. But I noticed you avoided my question: what would you do? Don’t you in fact have to be worried that the country in question will stop committing peacekeepers when you start busting them? And then what, exactly, do you do, when they pull said peacekeepers? Allow the civil war in Congo to reignite?
Good lord, what would you, Generic Conservative, say if the U.N. ever conducted an investigation of US soldiers committed to a peacekeeping mission? There’d be an immediate chorus to say, flip off, U.N., you want to insult our troops, then get by without them.
I’m not saying corrupt U.N. troops shouldn’t be prosecuted. They should. I just see a lot of unserious piling on, without serious examination of the complexities. |
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Good lord, what would you, Generic Conservative, say if the U.N. ever conducted an investigation of US soldiers committed to a peacekeeping mission?
Well, when the UN starts providing the vast majority of the funding for US peacekeeping operations, for starters, perhaps we can entertain their opinions about US peacekeeping efforts. |
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Don’t you in fact have to be worried that the country in question will stop committing peacekeepers when you start busting them? Glasnost, are you seriously implying that busting corrupt UN peacekeepers is a bad idea because the supplying country may stop sending more peacekeepers? Are you sure you want that sort of help? |
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I just see a lot of unserious piling on... It’s not as if the UN has any serious track record of doing genuinely useful things. It’s a lot of spending and bluster. The UN has dropped the ball, or failed to take the court, more times than the Bush administration could ever hope to play. There’s a vast liberal audience of UN supporting for inaction then, I guess.
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Glasnost is doing his narrative - UN investigations are better than ours,
they have less corruption than we do, they address their problems and Bush doesn’t, they don’t cover things up and Bush does.
You know, the wolkenkuckucksheim version of the UN that Kofi Annan ran. |
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They should contract out to mercenary companies, so that the companies are directly answerable to UN and not be relying upon the action of Pakistan to discipline troops. |
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Let’s put it like this: there’s a vast conservative audience of UN bashing for inaction. Hmm. Guess I missed it. Conservatives bash the UN for many things, but I wouldn’t put "inaction" anywhere near the top of the list. A lot of them want the UN to disappear - hard for it to be any more inactive than that.
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Best site I see. Thanks. |
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