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Pelosi, global warming, CO2, Europe and politics (Update)
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, May 29, 2007

After visiting a melting Greenland (say, how did it get it's name?) the globe trotting Speaker of the House went to Germany:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi urged international cooperation in tackling climate change at a meeting Tuesday with Chancellor Angela Merkel, who plans to push President Bush at next week's Group of Eight summit for action to fight global warming.

Pelosi, who opposes Bush on environmental policy, hailed Merkel's "extraordinary leadership" in fighting climate change and agreed "that these solutions must be multilateral."

"We are trying to preserve the planet, which many in our country, including I, believe is God's creation, and we have a responsibility to preserve it," Pelosi said, speaking alongside the German leader after a meeting at the chancellery.
Ah yes ... "God's creation". And, interestingly, it is acting like it. But Nancy is absolutely determined to change that.

And she's not the only one:
Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel has been more blunt, voicing regret after he met Pelosi on Monday at the difficulty of achieving "concrete results" with the Bush administration.

"I think that what we could achieve is at least a mandate for negotiations - a clear mandate - for the climate conference" later this year in Bali, Indonesia, which is set to consider future action against global warming, Gabriel told ARD television.

"The United States is rejecting that as well, so far," he said, but "if we could achieve that, then I think Heiligendamm would have achieved a breakthrough."

The U.S. refused to ratify the 1997 Kyoto Protocol limiting emissions because developing countries were not included. Rising economic giants, China and India, are exempt, and the treaty says nothing about post-2012 cuts.

Bush has argued that Kyoto would harm the U.S. economy and unfairly excludes developing countries such as China and India from obligations.

Pelosi has disagreed with that decision on Kyoto, but has said she wants to work with the Bush administration rather than provoke it. On the way to Europe, her delegation stopped in Greenland and saw the effects of global warming firsthand, she said.
Of course, as these "experts" have now agreed, it's all about CO2 emissions we humans put out there. But as British blogger Tim Worstall points out, perhaps it shouldn't be Europe demanding the US change in this case:
In fact, we need a 60% cut in emissions by 2050, so we're told. This is something like 1.3% per year.

How are we going to do that?

U.S. carbon dioxide emissions dropped slightly last year even as the economy grew, according to an initial estimate released yesterday by the Energy Information Administration.

The 1.3 percent drop in CO{-2} emissions...

Do you think it might be a wise idea to copy what they're doing?
Well, maybe. But that would mean admitting we're doing our part without it being dictated by some outside treaty or body, and that will never fly. And besides, it would also include an admission that the US is doing better than Europe in that department. And that too is a "no-no".

UPDATE: BTW, don't let anyone try to convince you it is only the intransigent old US of A who is holding out:
INDIA says it will reject proposals to limit greenhouse gas emissions at a summit meeting of the world's leading economies next month because stricter limits would slow its booming economy.

“Legally mandated measures for reducing greenhouse gas emissions are likely to have significant adverse impacts on GDP growth of developing countries, including India,” environment ministry secretary Pradipto Ghosh said.

“This in turn will have serious implications for our poverty alleviation programs,” he said.

“Legal mandates on greenhouse gas mitigation in any form will impact our growth, and this is not the path we wish to pursue.”
Nope, not at all:
Beijing voiced reluctance Monday to accept far-reaching cuts in greenhouse-gas emissions.

In the German city of Hamburg, Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi said China was a developing nation and suggested it was up to rich nations to shoulder the cuts.
In fact, Russia's also bailing on Kyoto:
The Kyoto Protocol, first signed in 1997, created a system of financial incentives for doing this.

Although Russia ratified Kyoto in 2004, the government now looks to be reneging on its commitments. Mironov’s speech made that clear.
And Poland and the Czech Republic? Well, they're not happy with the EU at all:
Poland and the Czech Republic said Friday they would appeal an EU decision sharply cutting their carbon dioxide emission quotas for 2008-2012 for industries with high energy consumption.

The two former members of the Soviet bloc, now both in the EU, decided to follow their fellow EU member Slovakia, which announced in February it would appeal to the European Court of Justice against the ruling.
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how did it get it’s name
Mainly it was a marketing ploy to get people to move there... Surely a place called "Greenland" would be a lovely place... Forget that nasty Iceland...
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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say, how did it get it’s name?

It’s funny that whenever I ask that question of some man-made global warming absolutists I know, they get really pissed off at me.
Written By: physics geek
After visiting a melting Greenland (say, how did it get it’s name?)
Well, since you asked…

It is well known that Greenland may have had a kinder climate during the Medieval Warming Period, it is also well known that according to the Saga of Erik the Red, Greenland was so named – as Scott beat me to it – as a marketing ploy.
He called the land which he had found Greenland, because, quoth he, "people will be attracted thither, if the land has a good name."
But whatever…
Written By: PogueMahone
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"Mainly it was a marketing ploy to get people to move there..."

Real estate agents—the third oldest profession.
Written By: timactual
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Real estate agents—the third oldest profession.
Since prostitution is the first... Remind me what the second is?

Honestly, I’m not convinced that real estate agents don’t fit the first oldest...

And they named Iceland the way the did - I’m not sure my suggestion got it across - because it was a nice, lovely bit of land and they wanted it to themselves...

What’s in a name?
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Since prostitution is the first... Remind me what the second is?
Uh, politicians?
Written By: McQ
Oh... So they are all the world’s oldest profession then...

Whores the lot of them.
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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If Speaker Peolsi supports Kyoto, all she has to do is to take it up with Majority Leader Reid, who can attempt to get his Senate Majority (which is so deeply, deeply concerned about global warming) to ratify it.

Of course....that’s the dirty little secret the Dems don’t like to publicize
Written By: shark
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Strangely, I was always under the impression that the priesthood was the second oldest; though, to be fair, politicians and priests often seem to have the same modus operandi especially in The Age of the Goreacle.
Written By: Uncle Pinky
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Since prostitution is the first... Remind me what the second is?
Uh, politicians?
According to RR, who memorably came "to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."

Interestingly, in the popular imagination, there are all sorts of candidates for second oldest, including midwifery and motherhood. Which figures.
Written By: Linda Morgan
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"Since prostitution is the first... Remind me what the second is?"

Politicians, I believe. Arrange them in any order you please, they won’t mind. As long as you pay.

"Whores the lot of them."

But only one group has the honesty ot admit it.

"Strangely, I was always under the impression that the priesthood was the second oldest;"

Nah, they were converts from the other three after the whores grew old, all the land was sold(all the REAL estate, that is), and the politicians were indicted.

"including midwifery and motherhood."

Motherhood? Please, we all know that is not a real job.
Written By: tmactual
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Oh, do please add a big smiley thing/joke indicator to the end of my last sentence, lest it be my last sentence.
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