It’s not politically correct to say it nowadays, but, at one time, my fellow airmen would’ve referred to A1C Rains as "a good egg". I dunno about "good egg", but I know I’d like to meet the young lady... :)
wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more...
Dale... You know people... See what you can do, or else I’ll have to go back to my fantasies of Nancy Grace, and you don’t want that, do you? |
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Witch hunts have never been a good policy for the services. Get out of people’s bed rooms and do something positive instead of ruining peoples lives. Umm, no. Go after the NCO in this threesome. |
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There’s not much you can do once a court-martial hands down a conviction.
It’s all up to lawyers now. |
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I’d like to know how this happened to come to light. Until I find out if there is a complainant I’m withholding judgement. Where did it occur and who was the complainant. I don’t think the SP’s just marched into someone’s quarters. |
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this seems like another casue of hang the lower ranking enlisted guy instead of hold the right people responsible for their actions. |
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Witch hunts have never been a good policy for the services. Get out of people’s bed rooms and do something positive instead of ruining peoples lives I dunno....the phrase "it’s hard to be a band of brothers when they’re all trying to bang the sister" leaps to mind here. I’m assuming that’s the reason the services go after this sort of thing so harshly. Anyone who served- is that reasoning justified based on what you’ve seen? |
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No idea Shark...
I’m just waiting for Dale to help a brother out... |
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Scott Jacobs
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"Rains and Airman Christopher D. Hicks are the only airmen charged in the incident"
"the only airmen.."? I am assuming that is a mistake, and that there were not more people involved. This time, anyway.
"my fellow airmen would’ve referred to A1C Rains as "a good egg"."
I hope your fellow airmen used condoms, or the good egg may have been fertilized.
" this seems like another casue of hang the lower ranking enlisted guy instead of hold the right people responsible for their actions."
Like they say, RHIP.
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I am assuming that is a mistake, and that there were not more people involved. This time, anyway. I think that meant they were not charging the SSgt...
And I’m still waiting for Airman Rains’ number, Dale... |
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I’m wondering about SSgt X, whose name seems not important enough to mention in the article. I think that’s keeping in tradition in not publicizing rape victims names. From the Cleveland Leader:Apparently the act itself isn’t what got the threesome in trouble, but rather, it was because prosecutors say that the staff sergeant was too drunk to have consented, and that is when it became a criminal case. Similar to a date rape. That would explain why there were no charges filed against the SSGT. If that’s the case then this:Witch hunts have never been a good policy for the services. Get out of people’s bed rooms and do something positive instead of ruining peoples lives. is way "off base." |
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"I think that’s keeping in tradition in not publicizing rape victims names."
I confess to being a pig, but in my opinion anyone, male or female, who gets so drunk they " slipped "in and out of consciousness"" stretches the definition of victim. I may be a "victim" if I jump in front of a bus, but I’m not sure I would try the bus driver for murder. Having done more than my share of drinking in my wayward youth(an overachiever in that category only, and stretching the definition of youth), I can state that it takes serious effort and attention to get that drunk. It ain’t accidental. "Oops! I accidentally swallowed a fifth of whiskey!" just isn’t credible. Admittedly, I don’t know all the details, but so far I havn’t been convinced there is even a crime here. |
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Timactual—I’m actual(ly) with you on this. I just presenting what I think the prosecutors thought and what they thought they could prosecute. I’m saying that THEY believe the SSGT was a victim. And they suggest that if she wasn’t then there was no crime. Apparently the act itself isn’t what got the threesome in trouble... |
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in my opinion anyone, male or female, who gets so drunk they " slipped "in and out of consciousness"" stretches the definition of victim. Wow. Someone passes out drunk and it’s open season on them? Pleading a class A felony down to the equivalent of a B misdemeanor? No bad conduct discharge? That’s a helluva plea bargain.
And, frankly, it makes me think that the rape charge was sort of...overkill. Never watch Law & Order: SVU? I think it’s just as likely they knew it was impossible to prove.
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"Wow. Someone passes out drunk and it’s open season on them?"
Open season? No. Blameless victim, pure as the driven snow? No. I am a believer in the theory of contributory negligence. |
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What what the officer doing drinking, then leaving with the other 2, and going into my sons bedroom ..... What planet did she come from? Why did she not call her husband for a ride home? Sounds like a good story to excuse her behavior. I say they all should get equal justice....and really....why can’t the AF spend more time protecting us and not thinking of the behaviors of what goes on in someones bedroom. |
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