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Chavez and Bush have something in common
Posted by: McQ on Saturday, July 14, 2007

At least according to the polls:
Proposals for the unlimited reelection of President Hugo Chávez, the possibility of establishing a Cuba-like political system and the ''violent'' clash with Washington are rejected by most Venezuelans, according to a new poll unveiled Friday.

The poll by Hinterlaces, a Caracas think tank that carries out surveys and analysis for private clients, also showed that Chávez's popularity has dropped 13 points since November, from 52 percent to 39 percent.

Hinterlaces' figures indicated that the average Venezuelan is increasingly rejecting Chavismo's ideological agenda in key areas such as the rights of private property and the country's shift toward Cuban-style socialism.
I think he seriously hurt himself with his shut-down of CATV and that, as much as anything, may have seen his popularity cool fairly drastically. I do believe some eyes were opened with that. Other findings of the poll:
• 63 percent rejected unlimited presidential reelection.

• 47 percent opposed the establishment of socialism.

• 85 percent opposed Cuban-style socialism.

• 86 percent rejected the idea that ``to be rich is bad.''

• 87 percent supported private property.

• 75 percent rejected the ''violent and rude'' confrontation with Washington.

• 81 percent said the country needs new leaders.
For the most part, that is a direct repudiation of Chavez's agenda.

To this point, Chavez's arrogance has known few bounds. However, I think it is clear that he wants to retain power and be a driving force in Venezuela's future. So, does he internalize these numbers and their lesson, modify both his behavior and his approach and perhaps drop the "violent and rude" confrontation rhetoric in order to hold on to the socialist dream? Or does he got full speed ahead with the belief that he can explain it all well enough to the people and be quick enough on his policical feet to turn aside any serious political threat?

The first choice would see him have to eat a lot of crow, and frankly, that's not a dish I think Chavez can stomach. Regardless, it clearly seems that he may have peaked. He may have to call old George and ask him how life is as an unpopular presidente'.
 
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What percentage think that Hinterlaces will be open for business a year from now?
 
Written By: timactual
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Regardless, it clearly seems that he may have peaked. He may have to call old George and ask him how life is as an unpopular presidente’.
The main difference being that Bush will leave office at the end of his term, whereas Chavez will either leave his office via a bullet in the brain, or one step on the run ahead of the armed mob
 
Written By: shark
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what a pathetic article.

’Proposals for the unlimited reelection of President Hugo Chávez, the possibility of establishing a Cuba-like political system’

firstly, i was surprised to read reelection and cuba-like political system in the same sentence. this would imply that cuba has a democracy would it not?

if you disagree, then surely it is not like cuba at all then, but don’t let the facts get in the way of a story.

and if you are to allude to the fact that the potential unlimited reelection is not democratic (an oxymoron if ever i heard one) then surely the loyal allies of the USA, the United Kingdom, and numerous other liberal democracies, are undemocratic as well due to the potential for unlimited reelection.
 
Written By: Marko
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firstly, i was surprised to read reelection and cuba-like political system in the same sentence. this would imply that cuba has a democracy would it not?
No Marko, it simply means they have elections in which the outcome is preordained. As we’ve pointed out before, just because you have an election or two doesn’t make you a democracy.

And fyi, the inference is to Chavez becoming president for life, something he’s been hinting at for quite some time. You may have also missed the fact that he’s now ruling by decree which is markedly like a ’cuba-like political system".

But don’t let ignorance get in the way of a good rant.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Pre-ordained elections? what a baseless comment made out out of desparation and a complete lack of evidence. Numerous independent election monitors have commended the Venezuelan elections, one of which (embarrasingly for you) was former U.S. President James Carter.

If what you mean by ’president for life’ is that he aims to allow for unlimited reelections for public figures, then this is no different to the United Kingdom. Do you have an issue with this policy in the United Kingdom or is it only when it is used by Chavez?

You call me ignorant, yet you do not even know the name of the television station that you claim that he shut down! Priceless.




 
Written By: Marko
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what a baseless comment made out out of desparation and a complete lack of evidence.
Marko ... you are from this planet, right?
The Cuban government is reporting a 98 turnout for the the country’s elections - even athough there was no choice of candidates.

[...]

All 601 candidates proposed for the national assembly were elected unopposed.
Numerous independent election monitors have commended the Venezuelan elections, one of which (embarrasingly for you) was former U.S. President James Carter.
Bzzzzt. Wrong again ... the comment you made was about ’Cuban democracy’. Look, if you can’t even keep up with your own comments, go find somewhere else to troll.
You call me ignorant, yet you do not even know the name of the television station that you claim that he shut down!
Well I’ve just proven you to be ignorant ... which is always better.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
relax and just read my comments again without rushing to the incorrect conclusion.

my comment was not about cuban democracy. it was about the article’s misleading comparison venezuela and cuba

i said, ’this would imply that cuba has a democracy would it not?

if you disagree, then surely it (i.e. VENEZUELA) is not like cuba at all’

i am saying venezuela is not like cuba because it is a democracy. in response to your hilarious comment that elections do not make a democracy i initially ignored highlighting such an inane statement and go onto say that regarding venezuela (not cuba as you seem to have concluded)that, independent bodies and former president carter have claimed that the venezuelan elections were free, open and democratic.

though to be fair to you, the words orignated from the ever-impartial miami herald, however you have re-hashed their article

additionally, you have either forgotten or are not been willing to respond to my query of whether you are against indefinite reelection in the UK as you seem to be against it in Venezuela.

and lastly, have you educated yourself about what tv station he apparently closed down yet? it would actually, give you the apprearance of being quasi-knowledgable if you actually knew the name of the channel of which you vent your faux-fury.
 
Written By: Marko
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relax and just read my comments again without rushing to the incorrect conclusion.
I’ve read them. It’s not my problem if you can’t express yourself clearly.

Now, do everyone a favor and troll elsewhere.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
take some english classes. the use os the use of ’it’ in the sentence;

’if you disagree, then surely it is not like cuba at all then’

is clearly the subject of the sentence, not cuba as you mistakenly thought. at least have the humility/dignity to admit you were wrong. any person with an intermediate level of english grammar would surely realise this.

also, you seem to have refused to answer my two queries once again;

is the potential for unlimited reelection in the UK wrong, as you seem to imply it is in Venezuela?

and also, have you learned the correct name of the station that you believe Chavez shut down? this should be obvious. at least just ’google’ it, so you know for future reference, to include in your future ravings.

i shall check this page once more to see if you have (at last) responded to these issues. if not, then the small numbers of readers of this poor website will draw their own conclusions
 
Written By: Marko
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and yes, i do see the irony in ’take some english classes. THE USE OS the use of ’it’ in the sentence;

a ’typo’, i’m sure you’ll concede, haha

but the issue of my two queries still remain, thank-you
 
Written By: Marko
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the small numbers of readers of this poor website will draw their own conclusions
I think I speak for the majority when I say we’d like it to be one less — take your dictator-loving @ss somewhere else.
 
Written By: JWG
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