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Kerry: Still in denial after all these years (Update)
Posted by: McQ on Friday, July 20, 2007

John Kerry is simply unbelievable. Watch him deny, in living color, that there was no "bloodbath" after the Communist takeover of Vietnam. As mentioned under the clip: "An award-winning investigation by the Orange County Register concludes that at least 165,000 people perished in the camps." And that's a conservative estimate which doesn't include outright executions (those that never made it to the camps) and the lives lost among the boat people. Of course Kerry was unable to talk with those 165,000 who died in the camps about how they're "thriving" in today's totalitarian Vietnam, could he?

And his point? He's assuring us that no "bloodbath" will take place in Iraq if we pull the same stunt we did in Vietnam.

HT to Don Surber who quips:
You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in the Senate.
Unfortunately this has more "truthiness" every day for more than just Kerry.

UPDATE: For Mr. Kerry's edification from the report cited on the video link:

The review found:
* An estimated 1 million people were imprisoned without formal charges or trials.

* 165,000 people died in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam's re-education camps, according to published academic studies in the United States and Europe.

* Thousands were abused or tortured: their hands and legs shackled in painful positions for months, their skin slashed by bamboo canes studded with thorns, their veins injected with poisonous chemicals, their spirits broken with stories about relatives being killed.

* Prisoners were incarcerated for as long as 17 years, according to the U.S. Department of State, with most terms ranging from three to 10 years.

* At least 150 re-education prisons were built after Saigon fell 26 years ago.

* One in three South Vietnamese families had a relative in a re-education camp.
A lovely little snippet as to their treatment. Note that Hung was not one of the escapees:
Two days later, there are rumors the escapees have been captured. Guards escort Hung and two prisoners to a nearby hill. They are ordered to dig small cave in the hillside. Hung grips a shovel and breaks earth. He starts to shake.

That next morning, screams pierce the dawn. They come from the area where Hung was digging. A few prisoners report seeing one of the escaped inmates beaten to death in the first cave. They say his body was dumped in an unmarked grave nearby.

Later, Hung learns the other two inmates were shackled in the caves for six months.
And:
He joins his “comrades” in circles, critiquing one another's work. After 15 minutes, each group must pick the “laziest” prisoner for special treatment: no breakfast, longer hours in the fields, extra manifestos to memorize.

“You cannot comprehend the paranoia of thinking: `Will I be singled out by my comrades today?' '' Hung recounts. “That happened day after day.”

Guards use bamboo canes and rods to beat prisoners who fall asleep or refuse to answer questions. They tie up men and women. Corner them against a wall. Shove them to the ground. Trample their bodies. Kick their heads.

The students call it “ Blood University.”
Yeah ... no bloodbath at all.
 
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If I were to believe Kerry, then I suppose I should beleive that those currently held at Guantanamo will be thriving some 30 years from now.
 
Written By: Neo
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As a Vietnam veteran, which Mr.Kerry is constantly reminding us that he is…. (By the way did you know he served in Vietnam? ) …he would know that Vietnam is the best possible example of why we should not be withdrawing from Iraq before the job’s done.

Kerry has always been a person willing to lie for political gain. This is something that his campaigns for president have proven. I believe we have another example of this in front of us.
 
Written By: Bithead
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Bithead,

I might have heard that he’d served in Vietnam, but honestly I’m not sure...

I’ve ended up blocking out most of the 2004 election cycle from my memory, so it’s possible I suppose that it was mentioned once or twice in passing...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Whyever would a Democrat believe that he could get away with playing fast and loose with the facts? Especially with the MSM watching closely?

Oh sorry. I was back in the Twentieth Century, when politicians could play with opinions, but never the facts and the MSM felt they had a duty, regardless of their political beliefs, to do their best to print verified truth.
 
Written By: Robert Fulton
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I have a friend who is ethnic Chinese from Vietnam. His father’s factory was confiscated and they had to spend all of their savings (in gold) to bribe their way on a flight to Belgium where they became refugees (later moving to the states.)

I asked him if he ever wanted to go back, you know, because the wars over, etc. he said a friend of his father who was in the Vietnamese CIA went back when he was in his 70’s and was killed in his hotel. So I guess its still going on to some extent. And in my experience, communist regimes really do push some elements of their own people in hating them very very deeply. (Another Chinese friend’s dad said he would "never go back to ’that’ country.")
 
Written By: Harun
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Man, reading that makes we think we should start bombing them again, truth be told. Subhuman animals...
 
Written By: shark
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He could very well be telling the truth when he says that he has talked to several people who were alumni of the reeducation camps and were thriving today. The guards.
 
Written By: timactual
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He could very well be telling the truth when he says that he has talked to several people who were alumni of the reeducation camps and were thriving today. The guards.
Or the colaborators. He married a frenchie, so he has an affinity for those people...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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I seem to recall that during Kerry’s infamous testimony, which included the "Ghengis Khan" reference, before the Senate committee regarding Viet Nam back in the 60’s, that Mr. Kerry was questioned about a possible bloodbath that he indicated that there would be some. On further questioning, he admitted that it might be worst than he originally thought.

Now he reverts to his original position .. less some.
 
Written By: Neo
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"I have a friend who is ethnic Chinese from Vietnam."

I think the Chinese may be the Jews of Asia. They have little population clusters all over, are prominent in the merchant class, and they are treated as scapegoats by the majority.
 
Written By: timactual
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I met Vietnamese officers who survived the camps. Some of them did not make it because they were herded into old mine fields to clear them, by walking around in them. Commie Kerry is a clueless jerk.
 
Written By: Mark
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He joins his "comrades" in circles, critiquing one another’s work. After 15 minutes, each group must pick the "laziest" prisoner for special treatment: no breakfast, longer hours in the fields, extra manifestos to memorize.

"You cannot comprehend the paranoia of thinking: `Will I be singled out by my comrades today?’ ’’ Hung recounts. "That happened day after day."

Guards use bamboo canes and rods to beat prisoners who fall asleep or refuse to answer questions. They tie up men and women. Corner them against a wall. Shove them to the ground. Trample their bodies. Kick their heads.

The students call it " Blood University."
That’s not so bad. Sounds like a typical day in Rush Limbaugh’s frat house.
 
Written By: Retief
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I did not serve in Vietnam but I have served during every "conflict" since.

My brother was KIA in Quan Tri in 1968.

Kerry is a fraud.

I found this video over at Daily Motion of which I am a member and I have posted it on my blog along with a special picture.

I remember my Dad picking up the old B&W rabbit-eared TV in the workshed and smashing it into a zillion pieces. I learned later that he had heard Kerry speak.

One day......
 
Written By: Snooper
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