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Beauchamp investigation: "refuted by members of his platoon and proven to be false" (updated)
Posted by: McQ on Friday, August 03, 2007

Matt Sanchez reports the following from the Army investigation at FOB Falcon:
After a thorough investigation that lasted nearly a week the 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division has concluded that the allegation made by Private Thomas Scott Beauchamp, the "Baghdad Diarist", have been

"refuted by members of his platoon and proven to be false."

The official investigation the 4th IBCT Public Affairs Office qualified as "thorough and professional" concluded late August 1st. Officials would not speculate on the possibility of further action against Private Beauchamp, nor would they confirm his current whereabouts or status.
I will caution that is a report on a report. I await the release of the official report for the details.

UPDATE: Sanchez has put the following in red lettering at the bottom of his original post as an answer, I assume, to a query about where the quote he highlighted above came from:
Update: All allegations were demonstrated to be false according to officials at Army Public Affairs.
I have no idea what "all allegations" encompasses or how they were 'demonstrated' to be false (although I'm pretty sure about how I would have investigated this as a military unit commander - and it involve sworn depositions) but we still await the release of this investigation by Army PAO.

UPDATE II: Bob Owens of Confederate Yankee sent an inquiry to MAJ Renee Russo (yes, that's her name), the Third Army USARCENT PAO in Kuwait asking if there was a female contractor at Camp Buehring, Kuwait with severe facial burns, and if so, when she was there.

The Major replied:
We have received other media queries on the alleged incident, but have not been able to find anyone to back it up. There is not a police report or complaint filed on this incident during that time frame. Right now it is considered to be a Urban Legend or Myth.

I am still researching the incident and will have to get back with you later with any new developments.
So the supposed corroboration of the story is showing some fraying at the edges as well.
 
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The army lies, you know this.

ABU GHRAIB!
PAT TILLMAN GENERAL!

 
Written By: shark
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STB had to write some fables in order to de-mythologize the war. Kinda like destroying a village in order to save it I guess.
 
Written By: Aldo
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This is all Old News, stop obsessing, let’s move on now....

Move onto someone new who is attacking the war.
 
Written By: Joe
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"refuted by members of his platoon and proven to be false."
Methinks Mr. Erb will still withhold his judgment as this does not compute.
 
Written By: meagain
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One pictures the shocked donkeys in the cartoon depicting the bedtime story in Congress. This story was always a teapot story, but the lefties saw an opportunity to build on their rightwingnoisemachine fable and valiantly tried to depict the center and right blogosphere as…well, you were there.
Now they must enter FullDenial mode:

“Ahem, well, perhaps, just perhaps this particular episode came out [EXACTLY] as predicted and just maybe [EVERY SINGLE THING] some of the things that were listed as concerns were not verified. However, the content of the stories was representative of what is happening with our troops over there and it was very [speak truth to power] brave of Private Beauchamp to attempt to overcome the forces of evil, no, I mean Rumsfeld’s phony…that is, Petraeus’ lock-down of security in a blatant attempt to obscure the true facts in this matter. And as soon as the Democratic think tanks have had time to polish up the rhetoric and transmit it to us via the NYT and the WaPo, you will see that our side was right all along on this whole thing. Certainly in principle if not, ultimately [ ultimately is when Professor Erb admits that he made up his mind about this long ago - as he has Freudian-slipped here several times (and been caught)] when all of the “facts” have been polished up ,er, determined for the Narrative.”

And you all thought that Professor Erb was referring to awaiting the results of the Army study. What he is waiting for is the Narrative to properly put this whole thing into perspective. Then he will know what he thinks about it all.
 
Written By: notherbob2
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I won’t matter.

Someone somewhere did those things because that’s the sort of things that soldiers do.
 
Written By: Synova
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"
Someone somewhere did those things because that’s the sort of things that soldiers do. "

On behalf of my retired comrades and those valiently currently serving on active duty who have and continue to protect your write to free speech to malign them, I say with the bottom of my heart.

KISS MY #SS.

Have a nice day.


 
Written By: retired military
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Written By: notherbob2
Hey! Ya fixed it...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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On behalf of my retired comrades and those valiently currently serving on active duty who have and continue to protect your write to free speech to malign them, I say with the bottom of my heart.
Synova was being sarcastic. Mocking the LN...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Yes, I was being sarcastic. ’sokay, no harm done. I could have put little /sarcasm /sarcasm off tags in there. As it is, what I was mocking pisses me off every bit as much as you RM.

BTW... did any of you-all realize that Matt Sanchez was a gay porn star and male prostitute?

Apparently he’s got no credibility at all and we’re supposed to believe the above quote is a complete lie.

(That sarcasm thing again.)
 
Written By: Synova
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BTW... did any of you-all realize that Matt Sanchez was a gay porn star and male prostitute?
Uh, yeah ... and your point (I know you’re being sarcastic again, but I had to say it)?

What he says is either true or its not true. What he is or isn’t has no effect on that (as I recall, however, he was also a decorated Marine).
 
Written By: McQ
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Uh, yeah ... and your point (I know you’re being sarcastic again, but I had to say it)?
Uh McQ it’s important because at every website I visit, one of the first points made is that Sanchez is a gay pRon star and the USMC investigated him for something....You know we Right-Wing God-Bag Crazees hates teh Ghey!
 
Written By: Joe
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Yeah. It’s apparently one huge outcry that we mustn’t listen because Sanchez is a gay porn star and prostitute and the Marines are "investigating him for fraud." Near as I can tell the "fraud" is that they’ve got some sort of investigation going in to whether or not he made any money with prostitution during the time he was in the Marines. It’s apparently a deal breaker about his credibility. Former gay porn stars are inherently unreliable, or so I’m told.

I particularly enjoy the commentary that goes something like this... "I don’t care to look into his claim because he’s a former gay porn star and that means he’s unreliable and I should ignore him completely but as I do so I shall laugh at the silly spectacle of the party of homophobia and hate defending him. Ha. Ha-Ha."
 
Written By: Synova
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You know we Right-Wing God-Bag Crazees hates teh Ghey!
Oh Noes! Not teh Butt Seks!
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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I look forward to the report, though right now it seems like mostly rumor. While you will see a number of people disbelieve any military investigation due to past cases like Jessica Lynch and the current Tillman case, where military investigations later were found lacking, I think given the high profile of those cases, the military will want to make sure they get this one right. While certainty may not be possible for some time, if the investigation concludes the claims the story was essentially false (i.e., more than just details or locations wrong), then that’ll be powerful evidence and I’ll conclude that, unless information comes out later that leads to a different conclusion, he was involved in fabrication or extreme exaggeration.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
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You know we Right-Wing God-Bag Crazees hates teh Ghey!
Oh Noes! Not teh Butt Seks!
O RLY?
 
Written By: Joe
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Hmm, odd that Herr Erb notes two military investigations that make the military look bad but somehow skips right over the Abu Ghraib investigation.

I don’t have a copy of my LN in front of me, Erbie. The Abu Ghraib investigation is credible, but the Tillman and Lynch investigations are not? What about the investigation surrounding the Marine incident at Haiditha? What about hundreds of others? Just when are military investigations credible?
 
Written By: A fine scotch
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What about hundreds of others? Just when are military investigations credible?
Don’t bother asking. Those things deal with honor, duty and integrity. He’s already stated that "honor" isn’t a subject that comes up much in his little world. Ward Churchill, I’m sure, would agree.
 
Written By: McQ
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I notice that Sanchez and Confederate Yankee are able to cite the sources of their information in their re-reporting.
 
Written By: Aldo
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While certainty may not be possible for some time, if the investigation concludes the claims the story was essentially false (i.e., more than just details or locations wrong),
Erb, since the point was to support the claim of how dehumanizing the war is, then getting the time and location wrong—to the effect he had not been in the war yet—that means it is essentially false.

Yours, TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
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I will say that today is a far different era than that of the Winter Soldier Hearings. In the "old days" john Kerry/Beauchamp would have made their claims, TNR/Ramparts would ahve published them and they would have stood. Only 20-30 years AFTER the Winter Soldier Hearings is it starting to become commonw knowledge that much of the "veteran" testimoy was made up by phony veterans....

Today the Internet allows John Kerry/John Massey/Jesse MacBeth/Beauchamp to get exposed pretty quickly.

Lesson Learned:
1) lie well; or
2) Tell the Truth.
 
Written By: Joe
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Don’t bother asking. Those things deal with honor, duty and integrity. He’s already stated that "honor" isn’t a subject that comes up much in his little world. Ward Churchill, I’m sure, would agree.
Still just sliming mud? I said I’d trust the military investigation even though I suspect a lot of the liberal/left blogs wouldn’t. Yet somehow it’s twisted to make it sound like I was attacking the military’s credibility, and McQ compares me to some pseudo-academic who didn’t even have a Ph.D.? And you pretend that I don’t deal with honor and integrity, when if you read that thread I simply noted the word ’honor’ isn’t used much, and wanted to know how you all were using it — but the components are things I deal with consistently. You guys are amazing, you’re so into attack and personal insult mode that you don’t even stop to actually engage and listen to what others are saying, and in order to insult you essentially ignore what is posted and lie. I have to conclude that, at least in terms of your ability to discuss and debate, you lack honor. Alas, that’s happening on all sides of the aisle, it seems. Politics has become more sport than discussion/debate, and the country is the poorer for it.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
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odd that Herr Erb notes two military investigations that make the military look bad but somehow skips right over the Abu Ghraib investigation
Could have been an innocent observation of two bad ones.

Course I thought instantly of Hanover Fist giving testimony for Captain Stern in the movie Heavy Metal:

"I’ve never known Captian Stern to do anything illegal *shudders* unless you count all the times he sold dope dressed as a nun",
but that’s just me.
 
Written By: looker
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Course I thought instantly of Hanover Fist giving testimony for Captain Stern in the movie Heavy Metal:



"I’ve never known Captian Stern to do anything illegal *shudders* unless you count all the times he sold dope dressed as a nun",
"Or ran a teen-aged prostitution ring."
 
Written By: Joe
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"Or ran a teen-aged prostitution ring."
Come on Joe - that was the pre-schoolers prostitute ring -

"Oh gimme a break.... Stern? Stern????!!!! He’s nuthin’ but a larcenous, perverted worm.... he should be torn into little bits and PIECES AAND BURIED ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’LL KILL HIM!!!!"
 
Written By: meagain
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I stand corrected.....
 
Written By: Joe
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"While certainty may not be possible for some time, if the investigation concludes the claims the story was essentially false (i.e., more than just details or locations wrong), then that’ll be powerful evidence and I’ll conclude that, unless information comes out later that leads to a different conclusion, he was involved in fabrication or extreme exaggeration."
Observe Professor Erb attempting (rather poorly, it seems to me) to negate the charge that he doesn’t know what he thinks until the LN tells him. Give it up, Professor. We have your number.

Of course, I realize that a reasonable person, ignorant of the Professor’s past conduct in this space, could very reasonably conclude that he is simply waiting for more definitive results. Note the "protests too much" nature of his comment. Contrast what he says with he might have said.

Parse the statement:
"if the investigation concludes the claims the story was essentially false (i.e., more than just details or locations wrong), then that’ll be powerful evidence and I’ll conclude that, unless information comes out later that leads to a different conclusion..."
Need any clearer evidence that he is simply waiting for the liberal pundits (LN) to tell him what he thinks?

And he, perported man of words, is unaware of what he is communicating to us all; damned out his own mouth.


 
Written By: notherbob2
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Notherbob, given that I said pretty clearly that I would trust the military investigation, you must think that the military investigation is part of the liberal narrative. Wow, that is some conspiracy!
 
Written By: Scott Erb
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I said ... Yet somehow it’s twisted to make it sound like...
and
given that I said pretty clearly that...
I can’t stop laughing.

Hey, Erb...how do you like them apples?
 
Written By: JWG
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"I said pretty clearly that I would trust the military investigation..."
???
"if the investigation concludes the claims the story was essentially false (i.e., more than just details or locations wrong), then that’ll be powerful evidence and I’ll conclude that, unless information comes out later that leads to a different conclusion..."
First Rule of Holes.
 
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