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For the record, Dems say Iraq may take years
Posted by: McQ on Monday, August 13, 2007

Apparently the "elect me and I'll get us out of Iraq as my first act as President" might not be quite as solid as some on the left would like it among Presidential candidates. The NY Times is reporting:
Even as they call for an end to the war and pledge to bring the troops home, the Democratic presidential candidates are setting out positions that could leave the United States engaged in Iraq for years.
You don't say?
John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, would keep troops in the region to intervene in an Iraqi genocide and be prepared for military action if violence spills into other countries. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York would leave residual forces to fight terrorism and to stabilize the Kurdish region in the north. And Senator Barack Obama of Illinois would leave a military presence of as-yet unspecified size in Iraq to provide security for American personnel, fight terrorism and train Iraqis.
This will certainly comes as a bit of a surprise to the virulently anti-war, "get out of Iraq now" crowd to whom these candidates have been playing and pandering. Only Bill Richardson is for complete and immediate withdrawal:
Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico stands apart, having suggested that he would even leave some military equipment behind to expedite the troop withdrawal. In a forum at a gathering of bloggers last week, he declared: “I have a one-point plan to get out of Iraq: Get out! Get out!”
While Richardson's position was wildly popular at YearlyKos, it is truly an unthinking "bumper sticker" policy which simply ignores the reality of Iraq and the importance of stability there. And even Hillary Clinton's “If this president does not end this war before he leaves office, when I am president, I will” has caveats. Why? Because of these questions:
Among the challenges the next president could face in Iraq, three seem to be resonating the most: What to do if there is a genocide? What to do if chaos in Iraq threatens to engulf the region in a wider war? And what to do if Iraq descends into further lawlessness and becomes the staging ground for terrorist attacks elsewhere, including in the United States?
Critical questions which the one-point plan of Bill Richardson simply ignore. And they're questions and consequences a competent president ignores only at severe risk to the best interests of the national security of the US - whether the anti-war left likes it or not.

But watch them give the impression that they support getting out of Iraq immediately while campaigning for the primaries while quietly positioning themselves to take a more realistic and sophisticated approach about the region if they end up being the party's nominee.
 
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Critical questions which the one-point plan of Bill Richardson simply ignore. And they’re questions and consequences a competent president ignores only at severe risk to the best interests of the national security of the US - whether the anti-war left likes it or not.
McQ, I agree these are critical questions that need to be asked of these candidates. But who or what debate venue is going to have the cajones to ask the Democratic Candidates anything but the softball questions they have been asked to date?

From my observations, MSM has climbed up the Democrat’s *ss so deeply that they will never ask the questions the public deserves answers. If you want hard, tough questions go to the Republican debates - MSM will ensure they will get pummelled with them.
 
Written By: SShiell
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While Richardson’s position was wildly popular at YearlyKos, it is truly an unthinking "bumper sticker" policy which simply ignores the reality of Iraq and the importance of stability there.

You really have to wonder why the Kossacks are wildly supportive of a position that virtually everyone agrees is harmful.
 
Written By: TallDave
URL: http://www.deanesmay.com
If you want hard, tough questions go to the Republican debates - MSM will ensure they will get pummelled with them.
Riiiiight,
abortion
gun control
taxes
gay marriage
Iraq


No, No, No, No, get out as soon as blah, blah, blah


Yeah, that was tough.

Have you actually watched these debated, or are you just applying your worldview to how you think they must be?

Cap
 
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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Yes, I have watch the debates and I get the biggest laughs watching these so-called Democratic Frontrunners stumbling all over these softball and predictable questions. The next biggest laugh is realizing these people are the best the Dems can bring to the table! What a joke these people are!
 
Written By: SShiell
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Yes, I have watch the debates
I am talking about the Republican debates, where you claimed the tough questions from the MSM would be launched.

Republicans are getting the softballs I mentioned, and other than Ron Paul, giving the same answers...
abortion
gun control
taxes
gay marriage
Iraq


No, No, No, No, get out as soon as blah, blah, blah

 
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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Joe Biden is forcing Democrats to be realistic on Iraq, not the MSM, he has been consistently realistic on Iraq, and his plans can even garner bi-partisan support...
“In the CNN/YouTube debate last month, Joe Biden reacted to sloganeering about pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq immediately. “Let’s get something straight,” he said. “It’s time to tell the truth. The truth of the matter is, if we started today, it would take one year - one year - to get 160,000 troops physically out of Iraq, logistically. That’s number one. Number two, you cannot pull out of Iraq unless you have a political solution. I’m the only one that’s offered a political solution.”
 
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