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What is the toxic obsession with Fox News?
Posted by: mcq on Thursday, August 23, 2007

Whatever it is, one certainly exists in certain circles:
Condemning the Fox News Channel as a warmonger that's agitating for a U.S. attack on Iran, documentary filmmaker Robert Greenwald and independent U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders announced an "online viral video campaign" Wednesday calling on television news organizations "not to follow Fox down the road to war again."

Greenwald, the director behind "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism" and "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price," has compiled a new three-minute video that mashes clips from Fox's coverage of the 2003 invasion of Iraq and its aftermath with recent coverage of possible U.S. military action against Iran.

The video and an accompanying "open letter" to ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN—viewable at http://www.FoxAttacks.com—urge news organizations to ask tough questions about administration policy on Iran and say citizens should pressure them to do so.
"Warmonger". What an amazingly silly term. And about as truthful as calling Bernie Sanders an "independent". Come on, Bernie's an avowed Socialist who has and always will caucus with the Democrats. That is anything but what "independent" has come to mean in US politics.

Bob Steele points to both the disingenuousness of this bit of nonsense and the irony involved:
"They are accusing others of doing what they have done, which is to stitch together multiple snippets of video and very short sound bites to make an ideological argument," said Bob Steele, the Nelson Poynter Scholar for Journalism Values at the Poynter Institute school for journalists in St. Petersburg, Fla.

"Take this as one small piece of a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle in the larger scheme of things," he said.
It is red meat for the Fox haters. And it also stokes the furnace of another popular conspiracy theory on the left. The Cheney/Rove cabal (less Rove now) engaged in planning a military attack on Iran and Fox is complicit (just, as they charge, it was almost exclusively complicit in whipping up war fever for Iraq ... the other poor networks (victimsTM) just followed Fox's lead).
In a conference call announcing the campaign, Greenwald and Sanders, I-Vt., said they don't have answers about what to do about Iran, but said they fear the White House will make a unilateral decision to attack.

"We have got to put pressure on the mass media not to play the same craven role they played in Iraq, when they effectually collapsed and became a megaphone for Bush's policies," Sanders said. "What Robert is saying here is that the leader of that effort is Fox News, which in many ways is simply a propaganda machine for the Republican Party and the Bush administration."
Uh huh. And their case for this is what Steele essentially calls, well, ideological propaganda.

Nice. Watch for the video on a friendly "reality based" blog near you.

(HT: Scott Jacobs)
 
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*SIGH*

Fox news is some sort of "warmonger" while CNN just covered up for Saddam in order to maintain access.

But Fox is evil.

Again- some people just need to be slapped
 
Written By: shark
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It really is toxic. I think it has to do with the success of FOX News. They do pretty good in the ratings compared to the other guys where the left at one time had a stranglehold. The left knows they cannot compete with the right in radio. Maybe cable TV is the only place they think they can make a dent???.

Seems silly to me.
 
Written By: markm
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Why is it that sometimes I just feel so damn naive. After being in the military and working in heavy construction for nearly 30 years and now retired, one would think I would not fail to understand why prominent people publicly lie about such things; things that can be relatively easily refuted. I guess the Nazi style big lie technique is what drives it; they stroke your biases. I had hoped that the communications revolution would cause more truthfulness but it appears to be getting worse. The attack by the Louisiana Democratic Party on Mr. Jindal, who is running for Louisiana governor, is a prime example. Say what you will about the Republicans, but their tolerance for such underhanded attacks is much less than that of the Democrats. I see no prominent Democrat condemning the religious bigotry about Mr. Jindal being broadcast in ads by the state Democrats.
 
Written By: AMR
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Whoever gets the Dem’s nod for Pres, Fox should endorse them, and slam the republican canidate.

It guarentees the dems will vote republican, and the republicans will too since they’ll be in on the gag...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Did you see Christiane Amanpour’s line that Fox News and the Bush admin "intimidated" CNN into supporting the Iraq war?

Of course she didn’t resign or anything.
 
Written By: Harun
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Condemning the Fox News Channel as a warmonger that’s agitating for a U.S. attack on Iran, documentary filmmaker Robert Greenwald...
I wonder, does he have a brother named Glenn?

Just askin’ the tough questions, you know...
 
Written By: Warrior Needs Food Badly
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"We only did it because the popular kid did it too..."

That’s not an excuse in elementary school, let alone the newsrooms of America.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
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CNN was intimidated by Fox...

What, did they make mean phone calls or something?
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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I don’t think that Fox News is anything special and spend almost no time watching it. (I used to watch Brit Hume’s broadcast, but grew tired of it.)

But I never watch CNN. And the only thing I ever used to watch on MSNBC was that old bastard Imus. That would result in MSNBC being left on in the background while I was working, but without Imus to get me there, I haven’t even left it on since they dumped him (well, not for more than an incidental moment here or there).

After years and years of keeping stuff like that on in the background, I’ve grown re-accustomed to silence. Besides, people who stopped by thought that I was always watching television, and were shocked when I told them that I almost never watch TV and just used it as white noise.

Bill O’Reilly, the big ratings pull at Fox, isn’t a bad guy. I just rarely have any interest in what he is saying. Sean Hannity is a fine fellow, but he’s loud and doesn’t really say much from one night to the next.

Chris Matthews, on the other hand, needs to be horsewhipped, if only for his manner of rattling on. Olbermann, of course, would have been arrested during WWII for broadcasting enemy propaganda. We don’t do that kind of thing anymore. Too bad.

Anderson Cooper, I don’t know anything about him other than what I learned from intermittent hits while channel surfing: that his eyes are too close together and he seems terribly dumb.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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Ah, yes...the evil and biased FOX News that has more liberals (centrists to moonbats) on their station than the rest of the MSM has conservatives (Falwell/Buchannan nutbars) COMBINED.

Reality based...in a parallel universe.
 
Written By: Sharpshooter
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Did you see Christiane Amanpour’s line that Fox News and the Bush admin "intimidated" CNN into supporting the Iraq war?

>>>

We only did it because the popular kid did it too..."

That’s not an excuse in elementary school, let alone the newsrooms of America
It seems to have worked for the Dems who used it to explain their Iraq war vote...
 
Written By: shark
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Say what you will about the Republicans, but their tolerance for such underhanded attacks is much less than that of the Democrats.
Yeah, see South Carolina dirty tricks in the Republican primary for the 2000 Presidential election. Republicans don’t just tolerate it, they reward it.

 
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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I almost never watch TV
... but let me tell you my opinion of what I don’t watch... LOL
Ah, yes...the evil and biased FOX News that has more liberals (centrists to moonbats) on their station than the rest of the MSM has conservatives (Falwell/Buchannan nutbars) COMBINED.
FOX has been steadfast in their adherence to the big lie, that they are not ideological slanted, but the facade slips occasionally...

Scott Norvell the London bureau chief for Fox News in an OP-ED in the European Edition of the WSJ...
Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O’Reilly. And those who hate us can take solace in the fact that they aren’t subsidizing Bill’s bombast; we payers of the BBC license fee don’t enjoy that peace of mind.

Fox News is, after all, a private channel and our presenters are quite open about where they stand on particular stories. That’s our appeal. People watch us because they know what they are getting. The Beeb’s institutionalized leftism would be easier to tolerate if the corporation was a little more honest about it.
Norvell never says the word "conservative" in describing "where [Fox’s anchorpeople] stand on particular stories," or what Fox’s viewers "know … they are getting." But in context, Norvell clearly is using the example of Fox News to argue that political bias is acceptable when it isn’t subsidized by the public (as his op-ed’s target, the leftish BBC, is), and when the bias is acknowledged. Norvell’s little joke about clubbing lefties to death should satisfy even the most literal-minded that the bias Norvell describes is a conservative one. (Lord only knows where Norvell acquired the erroneous belief that Fox News is "honest" about its conservative slant; perhaps he’s so used to Fox’s protestations of objectivity being ignored that he literally forgot that they continue to be uttered.)



 
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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Let me know when they’re found peddling manufactured documents and acknowledging they "may be fake, but they’re accurate".
 
Written By: looker
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That Sarcastic idiot quotes me, without context, and comments:
"I almost never watch TV"

... but let me tell you my opinion of what I don’t watch... LOL
Learn how to read, moron.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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Let me know when they’re found peddling manufactured documents and acknowledging they "may be fake, but they’re accurate".
No, FOX is 100% "Fair and Balanced" ROTFLMAO

That Sarcastic idiot quotes me, without context, and comments:
Relax, I just found the way you phrased it to be funny, I don’t begrudge you having an opinion, it’s as good as anyone’s. I prefer that you respond with ad hominem’s when I put you in your place, not when I’m just having fun.
 
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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Donations coming out of News Corp:
2000 cycle
31% Dem; 69% Rep
2002 cycle
29% Dem; 71% Rep
2004 cycle
74% Dem; 26% Rep
2006 cycle
60% Dem; 40% Rep
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=2006
 
Written By: anonymous
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No, FOX is 100% "Fair and Balanced" ROTFLMAO
I notice with a certain amount of amusement that your complaints center around when fox is reporting makes democrats look bad. I notice, for example, you failed to list their coverage of Duke Cunningham. Or, Nye, for that matter.

Is there a reason for this that you would care to explain to us? Am I to assume that you only considered fair when republicans have negative reports issued on them by Fox news?

If your charges are to be biased reporting, shouldn’t you be guarding against bias, yourself?
 
Written By: Bithead
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I notice with a certain amount of amusement that your complaints center around when fox is reporting makes democrats look bad.
Perhaps in your amused state, you were too giddy to note how some Republican scandals were handled at FOX...

Breaking News - "Scooter Libby Found NOT GUILTY of Lying to Investigators"

Hannity and Colmes - "Libby Convicted on 4 Counts - But was there even a crime?"

"Former Congressman Mark Foley (D-FL)" (yeah, D, like Democrat)

In reporting the Mark Foley scandal, they posted a banner that said Democrat Scandals with pictures of Gary Studds, Barney Frank, and Gary Condit

So yeah, though these are not my complaints, it’s someone else’s website, but they are valid complaints since it clearly appears that FOX is taking what would ostensibly be seen by any sane person as Republican bad news, and tweaking it to try and make at bad news for Democrats.

My complaint with FOX is the lack of thoughtfulness, it’s just all bombast, all the time. Not that other networks are great, but they are better.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but it’s the difference between Free Republic and QandO. They might both have a tilt to the right, but at QandO I can count on some thoughtful discussion, (between the bombast, that is).

You can find examples of bias on every news show on every network, but nowhere is as consistently biased as FOX.
Donations coming out of News Corp:
I don’t think for a moment that Rupert Murdoch is beholden to the Republican Party, the Republican Party is beholden to him, and he no stranger to political expediency. I don’t believe FOX News is an ideology driven enterprise, I believe that FOX News is a business and the business model indicated a profitable market for what they serve. They serve the ideology because ideologues are whom they decided to target as a market. Murdoch could not care less what the ideology of the government is, as long as he can purchase some flexibility (see Murdoch in China). And I also believe if he thought he could make more money, he would have a liberal biased news channel instead of a conservative biased news channel.

He hired Roger Ailes to do a job, based on the market he was going after. Had the environment been different, he may have hired the Ragin Cajun for that job.

If you want to argue that the rest of the media is liberal, go for it, I disagree, but it was a well sold meme before FOX came along, and all they did was capitalize on it.

Here’s the real question. Do you believe that FOX NEWS is actually, and honestly, FAIR AND BALANCED?

Don’t bother answering, it’s a rhetorical question, so you can lie to yourself, or not.

Cap
 
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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As always, it was handy to skip right to the end and discover that I missed nothing at all. :)
Don’t bother answering, it’s a rhetorical question, so you can lie to yourself, or not.
 
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