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UK: Let’s refuse to treat those with unhealthy lifestyles
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, September 04, 2007

If there was any doubt about what the probability of government run health care becoming a bit, ahem, authoritarian after reading John Edwards words below, well, erase that doubt by reading this:
Patients who refuse to change their unhealthy lifestyles should not be treated by the NHS, the Conservatives said today.

In a bid to ease spiralling levels of obesity and other health concerns, a Tory panel said certain treatments should be denied to patients who refuse to co-operate with health professionals and live healthier lifestyles.

And those who do manage to improve their general health by losing weight and quitting smoking, for example, would receive "Health Miles" cards.

Points earned could then be used to pay for health-related products such as gym membership and fresh vegetables.

The aim is a shift in the NHS towards preventing disease and ill-health rather than having to treat it.
Health Miles cards. How, well, infantile. Why not put a gold star up on the "chores" poster each day instead?

The bottom line promise of any program such as this is that government can deliver more for less and do it better.
The group also warns that public support for the NHS is under threat because of the "failure" to engage citizens in the drive to improve the service and to boost productivity despite the billions being poured into it.
Hello in there ... how long have you been observing government at work? Given that, how in the world do you even begin to believe that it will work "this time" when it hasn't worked for many, many much less complex issues than health care?

What you see above is the ultimate end for any government run health system, whether it is one of John Edward's choosing or Mitt Romney. It's time everyone figured that out.
 
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Heh heh - and the best part is, you slimey, unhealthy trolls WILL continue to pay into the system, whether you earn health miles or not.

Just wait till that part of the message sinks in to the proles.

Another group of people who obviously believe that all good (and capital) comes from government agencies.
 
Written By: looker
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I rest my case...albeit this was only "proposed", but it shows that the thoughts are in full swing. get ready for the free for all. Think about how many things cause cancer!
 
Written By: josh b
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Again, this is simply a non-working replacement for pure capitalism.

Could let the unhealthy people just go to the doctor more, and thus pay more out of pocket, or do some harebrained workaround that accomplishes the same thing, only not as well.
 
Written By: FisherOfMen
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*eats some more bacon-covered-bacon, and lights another cigarette*

Man. Sucks to be those guys...

Does this policy cover teeth too? Cause man, they really will be screwed then...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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does that include homosexuality?
 
Written By: reliapundit
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"does that include homosexuality?"

you can bet your ass it doesn’t...hehe
 
Written By: josh b
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next up, your carbon footprint better be within UN-mandated parameters or no treatmentfor you either...
 
Written By: SHARK
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Why don’t they just avoid all of the long, drug-out, incremental foot-steps and just say "We can only afford to cover healthy people?"
 
Written By: Terry
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So now they are cherry picking just like a private health insurance company.
 
Written By: Harun
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I suspect Micheal Moore sees this as his last, best hope to stick to his diet.
 
Written By: ArtD0dger
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albeit this was only "proposed"
Correct. Proposed by the Conservatives who are:

a) not in power, so can say anything they like to test the water, and have a history or extreme suggestions lately.
b) against the NHS but are not brave enough to suggest an alternative to a popular system of health care.

It seems to me sensible though to have a system, NHS, that encourages a healthy lifestyle than one that does the opposite, and benefits directly from an unhealthy population; private health care.
 
Written By: symptomless
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No problem. They can just cross our borders and show up at one of our hospital emergency rooms.
 
Written By: MarkD
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It seems to me sensible though to have a system, NHS, that encourages a healthy lifestyle than one that does the opposite, and benefits directly from an unhealthy population; private health care.
The casual ease with which so many people in this country currently express their willingness to have the government dictate their lives and the lives of others, "for their own good" no less, is one of the most sobering surprises I experience as I get older. The people in my grandfather’s generation were ashamed at the suggestion that someone else pull their weight for them.

By the way, private companies do not "benefit from an unhealthy population", Albert, otherwise the most wealthy of them would be where people are sickest, and that’s not the case. They benefit from the same thing any free, private company benefits from-fulfilling the consumer’s needs.

 
Written By: Augustus
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symptomless:
It seems to me sensible though to have a system, NHS, that encourages a healthy lifestyle than one that does the opposite, and benefits directly from an unhealthy population; private health care.
I thought one of the big complaints with private health care was that insurance is only affordable for people considered to be low health risks? Wouldn’t that be economically incentivizing a healthy lifestyle?
 
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