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Edwards wants more bureaucracy to fight terrorism
Posted by: McQ on Friday, September 07, 2007

John Edwards thinks we need to change our counterterrorism policy:
"We need a counterterrorism policy that will actually counter terrorism," Edwards said in remarks prepared for delivery at Pace University. "We've got to throw away the failed George Bush policies of the past, and move in a bold new direction."
And that "bold new direction?"

Another layer of bureaucracy:
Edwards said the centerpiece of his terrorism policy will be a new multilateral organization called the Counterterrorism and Intelligence Treaty Organization. He said it will be designed to coordinate operations like the recent arrest of three suspected terrorists in Germany who were suspected of plans to bomb airports and other institutions in the country.
You know, reading up on the German operation, it doesn't appear they needed some supernational organization "coordinating their operation". Seems to me they did pretty well all on their own:
German anti-terrorist police maintained silence for 10 months as a team of about 1,000 officers built the case against a cell of alleged homegrown terrorists that ended with their arrests as they began mixing a "witches' brew" of homemade explosives, ABC News has learned.

According to ABC News sources, the surveillance of the three suspects that began in December 2006 included observations of them at Hanau and Frankfurt airports as well as at the U.S. Ramstein Air Base and the nightclubs and bars surrounding it.

With constant physical surveillance and electronic wiretaps in place and operating 24 hours a day, authorities say they observed the cell purchase about 1,500 pounds of hydrogen peroxide — a 30 percent concentrate that is useful for bomb making but far in excess of what is needed in commercial applications, such as hair dying.

Sources told ABC News German police surreptitiously entered storage areas where the chemicals were kept in at least 12 drums and replaced the powerful "precursor chemical" with a much-diluted three percent solution.

The police had also bugged the storage area, enabling them to record the suspects as they loaded, unloaded and moved their materials in preparation for making powerful bombs, sources said.
Now I'm not sure what Edward's new super agency could have added to that other than perhaps more chances to compromise the operation prior to arrest.

But, you see, this entire "new direction" claim is based on a false premise, naturally:
"Those nations who join will, by working together, show the world the power of cooperation," Edwards said. "Those nations who join will also be required to commit to tough criteria about the steps they will take to root out extremists, particularly those who cross borders. Those nations who refuse to join will be called out before the world."
Hope he doesn't call them "rogue nations" or the "axis of evil". I think those names are taken. But note that Edwards assumes there is no "power of cooperation" at present. Edwards seems to think we're involved in going it alone:
"Most of all, instead of reckless, solo pursuit of an ideological agenda that abandons our moral authority and disregards our allies, we need to re-engage with the world and reassert our moral leadership," Edwards said.
That's the Edwards claim. In reality, this seems to be what is actually going on. You have to wonder if Edwards is even aware of it:
The alleged plot to blow up airplanes with liquid explosives has highlighted the importance of intelligence-sharing, which officials and experts say has improved among countries since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

American officials have strongly praised British intelligence, with President Bush describing U.S.-U.K. cooperation as “solid.”

[...]

Intelligence sharing among the U.S. and other European countries is also very good, as indicated by a “vast intelligence base in Paris,” according to Rosenau.

Disagreements with various European countries over the war in Iraq hasn’t decreased intelligence sharing with those countries because “all of these countries recognize the value of cooperation,” he said.
In fact, as Aldo points out (in the comments), the initial break in the case came from a US electronic intercept:
A U.S. intelligence intercept of suspicious communications between Pakistan and Stuttgart was the initial break that ultimately led to the arrest this week of three suspected Muslim militants accused of plotting massive car bomb attacks here against Americans, U.S. and German officials said Thursday.
All done between allies sharing intelligence without trying to impose a new super bureaucracy or "call out" other nations publicly (and, I suppose, force them to cooperate - yeah, that ought to yield good intelligence).

Sometimes uniformed political rhetoric is just uniformed political rhetoric. And lately Edwards seems to be the master of it.

Talk about bumper stickers.
 
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The huge irony here is that the recent terrorism plot foiled by the Germans not only proves that we already do have good international co-operation, but also it was based on an American electronic intercept of the type that Leftys are fighting to outlaw:
STUTTGART, GERMANY — — A U.S. intelligence intercept of suspicious communications between Pakistan and Stuttgart was the initial break that ultimately led to the arrest this week of three suspected Muslim militants accused of plotting massive car bomb attacks here against Americans, U.S. and German officials said Thursday.
Edwards is barking up the wrong tree. Instead of trying to bureaucratize international co-operation he ought to be trying to persuade his party to allow FISA to be updated to allow unfettered electronic eavesdropping of terrorists.
 
Written By: Aldo
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"We’ve got to throw away the failed George Bush policies of the past, and move in a bold new direction."
Complete political hack. It’s disturbing that people take him seriously.
 
Written By: Grimshaw
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The guy is the dregs of an otherwise mediocre field. Defines "lightweight".
 
Written By: spongeworthy
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"Those nations who join will, by working together, show the world the power of cooperation," Edwards said. "Those nations who join will also be required to commit to tough criteria about the steps they will take to root out extremists, particularly those who cross borders. Those nations who refuse to join will be called out before the world."
Oh Silky Pony, you do amuse me so...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Aldo writes:
Edwards is barking up the wrong tree.
Edwards is barking mad. He’s a desperate little twerp driven out of his mind by an adolescent desire to be president.

As appalling as the Republican field of candidates is (and I say that liking Thompson enough to think he could be a decent president), the Democratic field is frightening. They all remind me of obviously crooked cops. It’s as if a practiced internal affairs detective with a keen eye for signs of diminished character could walk into a precinct and ten minutes later go to the precinct commander and say, "I’ll tell you right now that officers Clinton, Obama, and Edwards are corrupt. They talk like liars, they act like thieves, and they have the demeanors of repeat offenders." And six months later he’s caught them all. Officer Clinton is charged with accepting favors from a chronic rapist. Officer Obama is accepting payoffs from hip-hop artists to stay off their case. And Officer Edwards is caught perjuring himself in front of a jury.

Today I send Beck this report from WorldNetDaily about a burglary at Kathleen Willey’s home. She says she was upstairs sleeping when it occurred and that she takes it as a message meant to intimidate her. What was stolen? A copy of the manuscript of her book about her experience with the Clintons. And my comment to Beck is "I don’t know what to make of this."

And he writes back: "Oh, yes you do."
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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If I were Iran and Syria I’d join this Treaty organization the first day the window opens....
 
Written By: Joe
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I think someone with extensive multi-lateral international management contacts shuold head it...I nominate Kojo Anna.
 
Written By: Joe
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Those nations who refuse to join will be called out before the world.
You mean like.. with us or against us?
 
Written By: phuknjrk
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Those nations who refuse to join will be called out before the world.
Maybe he could get a WWE superstar to do it. They’re good on the mic
 
Written By: shark
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Maybe he could get a WWE superstar to do it.
Is Sgt Slaughter available?
 
Written By: capt joe on the road
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He’s busy commiting War Crimes all over the Iron Shiek’s butt...

What’s the guy that’s a former marine? He’s camera friendly, have him do it...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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"rogue nations" or the "axis of evil". I think those names are taken
LOL
 
Written By: Neo
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I am presuming this new organization, being international, will be more or less coequal to the Dept. Of Homeland Security. Obviously, then, we shall need to reorganize and create a new umbrella organization to coordinate and oversee the efforts of these two. The Department of Overseas and Homeland Security, or DOHS. The obvious head of such an organization would be Homer Simpson.
 
Written By: timactual
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The huge irony here is that the recent terrorism plot foiled by the Germans not only proves that we already do have good international co-operation, but also it was based on an American electronic intercept of the type that Leftys are fighting to outlaw:
Absolutely and fundamentally wrong. Would be a flat-out lie, but I’ll assume you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Liberals are up in arms because the bill passed assuring that the NSA can monitor foreign-to-foreign communication went well beyond that in several instances. One of them, using NSA spy sattelites to eavesdrop on US citizens, was blogged about here as a serious problem by Dale Franks, right here on this sight.

Nobody - perhaps you can find one or two kooks, but 99% of liberal bloggers - has a problem with the NSA monitoring foreign-to-foreign communications. Christ, that’s the reason it exists. The revised FISA bill allows way, way too much latitude for the NSA to intercept the communications of US citizens. End of story.

Educate yourself. Or prove me wrong, hey? Go for gold.
 
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