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I love this Michael Yon Quote
Posted by: mcq on Wednesday, September 12, 2007

From an email announcing his latest dispatch:
I was the first to say Iraq was in civil war, and many readers were angry to hear me say it. Well, I'll be the first to say that I predict some sort of milestone for the war in Iraq will occur early in the next year. It's dangerous to predict like this, but something fundamental has changed in Iraq.

There is one important qualifier: this will only happen if General David Petraeus is supported by our elected officials to implement his proposed plan, without meddling from those same elected officials. Oversight and accountability are not the same thing as backseat driving after siphoning out half of the gas tank.
Heh ... exactly.

Go read his latest piece here.
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The terrorists have finally realized the Democrats are full of crap and not to be counted on.
Written By: jpm100
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Well, I’ll be the first to say that I predict some sort of milestone for the war in Iraq will occur early in the next year. It’s dangerous to predict like this, but something fundamental has changed in Iraq.
So in about six months (or Friedman Unit), things are really going to change. Sunnis will finally start loving Shia, and Shia will embrace Sunni.


Civil wars end when one side wins and one side loses.

Predicting that something great will happen in the next six months is not only not dangerous, it’s a cliche. I’ve read Yon’s posts. They contain no data to suggest any kind of political reconciliation is in the works. You know the man has no clue about the larger political forces at work when he makes ridiculous assertions such as this one:
This new cooperation between the Coalition and former Sunni insurgent groups like the 1920s is part of what is meant by the talk about “political solutions.”
No - it’s not. Not even close, Yon.

The enemy of the Sunnis is the Shia, not the US. Repeat, the enemy of the Sunni is the Shia, not the US.

A political solution would involve reconciliation between Shia and Sunni, not between US and Sunni. And that’s not going to happen.

And that’s why we are allying with the Sunnis who have our blood on their hands. To create a balance of power in the civil war that is sure to escalate when, not if, we leave.

Maybe somebody in the Bush administration finally figured out that Maliki is an Iranian stooge. Who knows. In any event, training and strenghtening the Sunni insurgent groups at least is some kind of check on the Shia militias, and, hence, Iranian influence. But it is surely no sigh of political reconciliation within Iraq. Indeed, it’s the opposite. Yon is either lying or a fool for suggesting otherwise.
Written By: mkultra
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Mr. Yon, this would have been a sign of "political reconciliation." From the NYT:
September 13, 2007
Compromise on Oil Law in Iraq Seems to Be Collapsing
BAGHDAD, Sept. 12 — A carefully constructed compromise on a draft law governing Iraq’s rich oil fields, agreed to in February after months of arduous talks among Iraqi political groups, appears to have collapsed. The apparent breakdown comes just as Congress and the White House are struggling to find evidence that there is progress toward reconciliation and a functioning government here.

Senior Iraqi negotiators met in Baghdad on Wednesday in an attempt to salvage the original compromise, two participants said. But the meeting came against the backdrop of a public series of increasingly strident disagreements over the draft law that had broken out in recent days between Hussain al-Shahristani, the Iraqi oil minister, and officials of the provincial government in the Kurdish north, where some of the nation’s largest fields are located.

Mr. Shahristani, a senior member of the Arab Shiite coalition that controls the federal government, negotiated the compromise with leaders of the Kurdish and Arab Sunni parties. But since then, the Kurds have pressed forward with a regional version of the law that Mr. Shahristani says is illegal. Many of the Sunnis who supported the original deal have also pulled out in recent months.

The oil law — which would govern how oil fields are developed and managed — is one of several benchmarks that the Bush administration has been pressing the Iraqis to meet as a sign that they are making headway toward creating an effective government.
The Surge was meant to create an opportunity for Iraqi poliicians to come together and reconcile over key political issues. It’s tragic that our troops have to die in order for these clowns to play their games. Worse, it sounds like our Kurdish "allies" are purposefully sabotaging the reconciliation.
Written By: mkultra
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MK Ultra,

First of all, I do like the Friedman unit line.

But, I have to say we have seen things change in Iraq in Anbar, so it would be very foolish to assume that reconciliation could never take place. Sure it may not happen, but then again, we got the Bosnians to make a peace agreement, too.

Also, the civil war in Iraq can have a winner called the Central Government. In that instance, the Sunni and Shia militias lose. Or they can drag on for eternity like the insurgencies in Sri Lanka, India, Philippines, etc.
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Or they can drag on for eternity like the insurgencies in Sri Lanka, India, Philippines, etc.
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