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Setting the "CW" for Thompson
Posted by: McQ on Thursday, October 04, 2007

It appears the developing (or continuing) conventional wisdom is that Fred Thompson is both unenthusiastic about the run for the Presidency and not ready for prime time.

But as Mr. Thompson campaigned in Iowa this week, he was something other than the dynamic presence that some in his party have been yearning for. Iowans saw a subdued, laconic candidate who spoke in a soft monotone, threw few elbows and displayed little drive to distinguish himself from his opponents.

Mr. Thompson told few jokes and, while an easygoing presence, did not appear to have much interest in the small talk that is a staple of retail campaigning. As he defined his candidacy, Mr. Thompson spoke in broad generalities about the conservative principles that he said had informed his political views — in particular, federalism and cutting government spending — and led him to run for president.


Voters who came out to see Mr. Thompson as he traveled through Iowa, even while expressing admiration for his views and intense interest in his candidacy, said they were struck by how little energy or passion he appeared to bring into a room.
Not ready for prime time:
More gaffes from Fred Thompson: Not only has he misspoken or said he didn't know about Terri Schiavo, or the controversy about oil drilling in the Everglades, or that he was unaware that a federal judge had ruled that lethal injection procedures in his home state of Tennessee were unconstitutional, last night in Iowa he said that the Dems controlled congress when John Roberts went through his confirmation hearings for Chief Justice.

That is wrong, the Republicans still controlled the Senate and the Judiciary Committee of course, and Fred was designated to make the rounds on Capitol Hill at the time as Roberts’ shepherd.

Here’s what he said:

“The president called me up and asked me to help shepherd judge John Roberts’ nomination through the Senate confirmation process. I was honored that I got that call. I was honored that he thought I had enough friends on the Democratic side that they wouldn't run me out of town!

“We fought hard against each other, but I always thought that we had mutual respect. And that's what it takes.
“Even though the other party controlled the Judiciary committee, we got some votes there. For a good, sound, what I would call conservative justice.”
Fixable or doomed? I don't think there's any question this is now a part of the Thompson persona, at least as the press will present him.

Can he overcome it?
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From what I can tell, they are trying to sell Fred as the next Ronald Reagan. In terms of Presense & Persona that could be true. However, I suspect, if you compared their politics that isn’t the case so much. And they want to get everyone onboard with the meme he is the next Reagan before people put Fred’s politics under the microscope and decide otherwise.

That’s one reason why the campaign appears to be making slow progress.
Written By: jpm100
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Although I like Thompson more than the rest of the GOP lot, he doesn’t have a lot of energy. Maybe he’s saving it, for later. But to slightly paraphrase Yogi, it’s getting late early.

Back in June, I think it was, we had some real ultra-liberal Upper West Side relatives up for a weekend. She, in particular, has Bush Derangement Syndrome. Neither of them liked Hillary, thinking she was too devisive (a pretty odd observation for someone with BDS). And they both thought that Giuliani would be the Republican candidate. I expressed my doubt, and suggested that Thompson was the candidate who could beat Hillary.

She said: "Thompson seems like a tired old man."

I said: "He is a tired old man."

And that, I’m afraid, is how he comes off, and the part of the interview I saw that he and his wife gave to Sean Hannity reinforced that perception, for me.

He seems older at 64 than Reagan did at 74, with about half the energy.

The good news is that Hillary will probably peak before she gets the nomination and will be on the downhill side of her resurgence going into the general.

Now, can Thompson wake the hell up before then?

Written By: Martin McPhillips
It is difficult to decide if Thompson’s popularity is conservative wishful thinking or an unconventional approach that will cause upsets in the early primaries.
One observation is that it has been a while since former Senators have been successful in Presidential politics while former Governors have been the trend.
Written By: Stanford Matthews
I think every single one of the major candidates has a similar short characterization that highlights their limitations:

Hillary - shrill, domineering

Edwards - smarmy and hypocritical

Obama - shallow

Romney - plastic

Fred - lazy, lacks fire

Rudy - can’t keep a wife

So they’ve all got something to overcome.

Whether this "newspaper reporter" characterization of Fred will matter much in the long run is not clear to me. We’ve all been deriding politics as usual for years. Well, here comes Fred, and he’s breaking every rule in the political consultants’ book. The Conventional Wisdom is clearly going to judge that stance harshly. Whether it will resonate at the ballot box is a different question. I don’t know the answer, but I’m unwilling to write off Fred’s chances because of what a gaggle of unsympathetic news reporters have to say about him.
Written By: Billy Hollis
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Is it really required to overcome these things? I mean, put aside the question of whether not this is an image that has been inflicted on him by the press, or one that these generated himself. Focus rather on the question of whether not anyone who really wants the job, is qualified for it.

Time was, that the conventional wisdom said that anybody that really wanted the job, was probably crazy, and therefore singularly unqualified for the position.
Written By: Bithead
Maybe its that on TV shows, people look very energetic, whereas in real life, no one can live up to that. And perhaps age/health issues.
Written By: Harun
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So they’ve all got something to overcome.
Biden is the best candidate on either side, but he has a huge piece of baggage to overcome... polling in the mid zero’s.
Written By: Captin Sarcastic
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Biden is the best candidate on either side
Biden’s ability to switch positions on a dime would qualify him to be a hollywood stunt driver.
Written By: capt joe
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capt. joe writes:
Biden’s ability to switch positions on a dime would qualify him to be a hollywood stunt driver.
There are a lot of stunt drivers among the Democrats in the Senate.

And the greatest of these is Mary Jo Kopechne’s chauffeur. Needless to say, said chauffeur never made any suggestive or harassing remarks to Mary Jo, like those Clarence Thomas made to Anita Hill. So don’t even make the comparison.

And "excuse me, Senator Clinton, is that your husband’s cigar in that intern’s vagina?"

"What Thomas did to Hill was unpardonable," the Senator responded, "we need to protect all women from workplace harassment and intimidation!"
Written By: Martin McPhillips
Mr. Thompson is not my candidate of choice at this time, but I get the feeling that the MSM is treating him as they usually do to a conservative from the south; he is a Billy Bob character from some old Dukes of Hazzard rerun. I prefer to see him as the Law and Order DA speaking slow and profoundly; allowing me to follow and reflect on his logic.

And why not admit that you are not up on some local issue rather than skirt the issues as just about all politicians do. If I remember correctly, we have a federal system with local and state candidates running for office on local issues. I would much rather someone in a leadership position admit they do not know something than to blindly go forward into the unknown; that is as long as that is not something they admit continuously.
Written By: AMR
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he is a Billy Bob character from some old Dukes of Hazzard rerun.
FT is doing a heck of job of proving them right. It’s not just that he’s not up on Terri Schiavo, or lethal injections in his home state, or that he thought that Hezbollah is in Afghanistan, or that he was unaware he didn’t shepherd John Roberts through a difficult confirmation with a Democratic Congress. ANy one or may be two, or maybe all of that could be forgiven, except that he’s just getting started and he hasn’t all that much, and what little he has said seems to have been wrong.

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