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Fat, scientific consensus and AGW
Posted by: mcq on Tuesday, October 09, 2007

Read this - the whole thing - first.

Now substitute the words "anthropogenic global warming" where appropriate.
 
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Heh... Jinx. I just posted that comparison, myself.

To your thoughts, I’ll add my agreement and these thoughts:


With this article, comes an understanding of why government run health care is counterproductive to a healthy society. How many Healthcare issues are decided on such consensus ? How many such in accurate consensus would be reinforced with the power of government? How many people would die as a result of such?

Perhaps someone should show this article to both Al Gore, and Hillary Clinton. The resulting dance might even be amusing.

And finally, how did the New York Times manage to get this one right? And, how did they manage not to make the extrapolations that you and I did?
 
Written By: Bithead
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Interesting article! Still, while it’s obviously tempting to compare this to global warming, one flawed study doesn’t affect the validity of another study in a different field. While the article stands as a good example of why we should be cautious of anyone claiming a total consensus and maintain skepticism, I don’t think that makes a sound basis for rejecting global warming entirely - sometimes ’everyone’ agrees because the conclusion is correct.
 
Written By: James O
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Great news! That certainly is a load off my mind, if not my feet. Arrividerci, olio d’oliva. Bienvenue au beurre!
 
Written By: timactual
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That may be, James... but the tool being used of late to try and convince us of the validity was the "scientific consensus".

 
Written By: Bithead
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The obvious peril within will be lost, or ignored, by the doomsday AGW crowd. Of course, a good part of that crowd is far more interested in kneecapping the western (not really free) market economies, and in particular, those captains of industry/government that know that "from each according to ability, to each according to need," is sophomorically idealistic on paper, and authoritarian in practice. AGW is just one of many tools the vanguard has employed in their attempt to control our lives.
 
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But when the theories were tested in clinical trials, the evidence kept turning up positive. As Mr. Taubes notes, the most rigorous meta-analysis of the clinical trials of high-AGW environments, published in 2001 by the Cochrane Collaboration, concluded that they had a significant effect on temperature.
as you requested.
 
Written By: Francis
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Still, while it’s obviously tempting to compare this to global warming, one flawed study doesn’t affect the validity of another study in a different field.
The point was to note the "cascading effect" such a study provided and the fact that for years the "consensus" lay in the findings of that flawed study.
 
Written By: McQ
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“This is a matter of such enormous social, economic and medical importance that it must be evaluated with our eyes completely open. Thus I would hate to see this issue settled by anything that smacks of a Gallup poll.”
Attention Al Gore.
 
Written By: Neo
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But when the theories were tested in clinical trials, the evidence kept turning up positive. As Mr. Taubes notes, the most rigorous meta-analysis of the clinical trials of high-AGW environments, published in 2001 by the Cochrane Collaboration, concluded that they had a significant effect on temperature.
as you requested
You don’t know much about computers and models, do you Francis.
 
Written By: looker
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Though the PR machine is still grinding away, the Global Warming hysteria is, I think, nearing its end. Perhaps that’s wishful thinking on my part, but the counter-offensive of rationality is well underway.

At some point, the momentum will shift and global warming advocates, of which there are now many, will be as rare as advocates of eugenics were after World War II.

Of course, the bad news there is that eugenics has made a huge comeback in the guise of the "therapeutic abortion," which many women now avail themselves of on the basis of genetic testing when they get pregnant.

So, global warming will probably make a comeback (probably not before another mediating global cooling scare) later in this century, when this one is all but forgotten.

Note that the current comeback of solar energy enthusiasm is almost an exact replica of the solar energy fad of the 1970s, in which I was a key player. What they’re saying now and what we were saying then is so close that I can almost mouth the words. (For the record, solar energy is a wonderful thing; it just has no real appeal, no real practical value in terms of broadscale application, and can’t carry a tune like a barrel of oil can.)
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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At some point, the momentum will shift and global warming advocates, of which there are now many, will be as rare as advocates of eugenics were after World War II.
I’m sure they will find something else to worry about. It’s not like The Population Bomb types ever reconsider their worldview.
 
Written By: Don
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Don writes:
I’m sure they will find something else to worry about. It’s not like The Population Bomb types ever reconsider their worldview.
I thought for a while that avian flu had potential, but that just didn’t pan out the way the popular hysteria moguls hoped. Maybe a date rape panic will start up, but that’s always a dicey proposition when the Clintons are running for the White House. Janet Reno is surely well rested by now, so maybe a child molestation scare would be a nice accompanying theme as the climate hysteria quells.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
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Maybe a date rape panic will start up, but that’s always a dicey proposition when the Clintons are running for the White House.
(Snicker)
I KNEW I liked you for some reason.
 
Written By: Bithead
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