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This must have stung ...
Posted by: McQ on Sunday, October 14, 2007

An editorial from the Washington Post:
This doesn't necessarily mean the war is being won. U.S. military commanders have said that no reduction in violence will be sustainable unless Iraqis reach political solutions — and there has been little progress on that front. Nevertheless, it's looking more and more as though those in and outside of Congress who last month were assailing Gen. Petraeus's credibility and insisting that there was no letup in Iraq's bloodshed were — to put it simply — wrong.
I don't imagine we'll hear a peep from those who questioned Petraeus and his integrity. But that says more about them than anyone.

 
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It would only sting if denial wasn’t so prevalent, or if shame was even remotely evident.
 
Written By: Sharpshooter
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What stings is that they can’t keep bringing up the war in the 2008 election cycle, if violence continues to go down.

Not enough people dying. Damn.
 
Written By: Don
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Actually, Charles Bird on "Obsidian Wings" noted the same data in the Post article back on Oct 1:
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2007/10/the-environment.html

And it’s certainly more believable than Petraeus’ own data, since the Pentagon was forced to admit on that same day that he had derived it entirely from the Iraqi government’s own supposed casualty figures — which clashed radically with the Pentagon’s own figures, and whose accuracy is, shall we delicately say, questionable:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/10/counting_civilian_deaths_in_ir.html

But this still leaves us with:

(1) The question of how much of this is due to the simple fact that the Shiites have pretty much finished ethnically cleansing Baghdad (as Gen. Jones’ report, at the same time as Petraeus’, pointed out — complete with maps: http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/09/a_tale_of_two_mapes.php

(2) The question — which was always at the top of the stack — of just how much such a drop in violence can produce if there’s no significant sign of political reconcilation between the Shiites and the Sunnis, which there isn’t. (The incredible gloominess of Ryan Crocker’s testimony, at the same time as Petraeus’, doesn’t get remarked on much by the remaining Iraq hawks.) In this connection, for instance, we can note:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the_plank?pid=151780
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21164128/site/newsweek/

Clearly the sunrise of peace, national unity and democracy is blazing on the horizon. (Certainly enough to keep most of our military stuck there while the Iranians cheerfully continue to work unhindered toward acquisition of the Bomb.)


 
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