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8 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were registered to vote
Posted by: McQ on Friday, November 02, 2007

We all saw or are now familiar with the recent dust-up in the latest Democratic debate concerning Hillary Clinton and her support/non-support of NY Governor Eliot Spitzer's desire to allow illegal immigrants to get a driver's licence.

The party line for such a move is it enhances security by bringing illegals out of the shadows and making it easier to track them. Frankly, that's a pile of cow cookies.

Using info from a John Fund article in the Wall Street Journal, let me show you why:
The background here is the National Voter Registration Act, commonly known as "Motor Voter," that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1993. It required all states to offer voter registration to anyone getting a driver's license. One simply fills out a form and checks a box stating he is a citizen; he is then registered and in most states does not have to show any ID to vote.
The key to the rest of this is found in the emboldened line. From there, this:
But no one checks if the person registering to vote is indeed a citizen. That greatly concerns New York election officials, who processed 245,000 voter registrations at DMV offices last year. "It would be [tough to catch] if someone wanted to . . . get a number of people registered who aren't citizens and went ahead and got them drivers' licenses," says Lee Daghlian, spokesman for New York's Board of Elections. Assemblywoman Ginny Fields, a Long Island Democrat, warns that the state's "Board of Elections has no voter police" and that the state probably has upwards of 500,000 illegal immigrants old enough to drive.
So? So show up with a social security number (something else they don't check to see if it is valid), lie about being a citizen, and you can both drive and vote. Simple as that. No one is going to check. In fact, they're not staffed to check, nor is there any procedure in place to do so even if bureaucrats wanted too. And Spitzer has since even made it easier. According to the Fund article, "that an Oct. 19 memo from the state DMV informed the clerks they don't "have any statutory discretion to withhold a motor voter form." What's more, the computer block preventing a DMV clerk from transmitting a motor voter registration without a Social Security number was removed."

In some states its even worse than NY:
Under pressure from liberal groups, some states have even abandoned the requirement that people check a citizenship box to be put on the voter rolls. Iowa has told local registrars they should register people even if they leave the citizenship box blank. Maryland officials wave illegal immigrants through the registration process, prompting a Justice Department letter warning they may be helping people violate federal law.
May be? See the title. This isn't some abstract thing. 8 of the 19 9/11 hijackers, not a single one of which was a citizen of the US, could have walked into their polling place and voted. Does that give you a warm fuzzy about the integrity of the system? In fact, it should chill you to the marrow.

This is voter fraud enabled by government officials on a level unimagined, and it is being both tacitly or overtly supported by 6 of the 7 Democratic presidential candidates, all of whom will then try to convince you they have a handle on security and are very concerned that the integrity of the voting system be maintained.

Nonsense. If this particular fiasco is any indication they're neither concerned about security or voter integrity. In fact, they're engaged in destroying both.

But, of course, when you consider the political benefits of such a program, it becomes much clearer why such support is there from Democrats.

Say you're an illegal immigrant. Say one party pushes for you to become at least partially documented. And say part of the process allows you to become a voter at no risk whatsoever to you.

That party claims to want to find a way to extend a sort of amnesty to you and push you to the front of the citizenship line. They push things such as in-state tuition, free education, free medical care and even Social Security. The other party talks about border security, preventing voter fraud, containing illegal immigration and the rule of law.

Because of Eliot Spitzer and others, you can now vote.

No brainer.
 
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Halfway through your excellent post, I was wondering why you didn’t ask the following question, but you did intimate it in the end.

If the 9/11 hijackers had voted, which party would they have favored?

Yeah, I thought so too.
 
Written By: Perry Eidelbus
URL: http://eidelblog.blogspot.com
I once worked for the Oregon DMV and the voter registration works just as you described. Nobody checks and anybody can register. I took the registration cards to the county clerk and asked what they did if the citizenship box was not filled in, they said they register them to vote anyway. Oregon has vote by mail so there is no ID checking.
 
Written By: Rick
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"That party claims to want to find a way to extend a sort of amnesty to you and push you to the front of the citizenship line. They push things such as in-state tuition, free education, free medical care and even Social Security."

Slow down and take a deep breath, McQ. That also described the Bush Administration (NoChildLeftAhead, Medicare Part D,etc.)

And what exactly would you require as documentation of citizenship? Everything ultimately depends on having a certified copy of a birth certificate, and those are not the most forgery proof things available.

I’ve been asked for ID to check my identity everytime I’ve voted in the last thirty years. But I’ve only needed to prove my citizenship once in that connection, when I originally registered as an eighteen year old. (I’ve moved around a few times over the years, but always stayed in the same state.) And I’ve only need to prove citizenship one other time, when I applied for my first passport. (For subsequent renewals, I’ve only needed to show my expiring passport.)

Which suggests to me that the procedures for validating citizenship are fairly flimsy, even when Gov. Spitzer allows them to be followed.
 
Written By: kishnevi
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My boss (Danish citizen) had a heck of a time NOT registering. He got handed the form and told sign this more than once when getting his license. He did read the form and refuse. He’s got a decent accent so there should have been some question...

Makes me wonder how many people just give in and sign.
 
Written By: Ryan
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And what exactly would you require as documentation of citizenship?
A birth record for starters.
Everything ultimately depends on having a certified copy of a birth certificate, and those are not the most forgery proof things available.
But as the states have gone digital, it’s much easier to check them isn’t it? And, since SS numbers are now issued at birth, that could be checked against it along with little things like race and gender just to verify that the big things are correct. That’s a two point check. It beats a no-point check, wouldn’t you say?

It certainly wouldn’t be infallible, few systems are, but it would be much better than just assuming everyone is telling the truth, huh?
Which suggests to me that the procedures for validating citizenship are fairly flimsy, even when Gov. Spitzer allows them to be followed.
And perhaps they shouldn’t be, huh? Maybe that’s an area that needs to be shored up as well.

But to believe that citizenship can’t be verified simply makes no sense to me. The information is available. We simply need a process to enable it to be checked. I mean if you believe that only citizens should be allowed to decide on who leads your country and all.

If not, hey, no biggie.
 
Written By: McQ
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OMG, I didn’t think there would be some who think that qualifing voters as eligible to vote is a bad idea. Is this the same as calling illegal immigrants "good citizens"?
 
Written By: Rick
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