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Gore cashes in ...
Posted by: McQ on Monday, November 12, 2007

It's a scenario as old as earth's civilizations - create a panic, provide a solution and become rich:
In turn, Doerr, the master networker whose greatest hits include initial investments in Netscape, Amazon (Charts, Fortune 500), and Google (Charts, Fortune 500), will join the exclusive advisory board of Generation Investment Management. That's the $1 billion investment company Gore started three years ago in London with David Blood, the former head of Goldman Sachs Asset Management, to analyze and invest in publicly traded "sustainable" companies. Over the past five weeks Gore, Doerr, and Blood agreed to give Fortune an exclusive look at their new alliance.

Already they've begun to pool information. Generation came across a small company engaged in carbon trading that Kleiner is analyzing, and Kleiner has shared intelligence about which startups could threaten the established companies in Generation's portfolio. In the long term, though, they want to help drive something much larger, "bigger than the Industrial Revolution and significantly faster," as Gore puts it.

They argue that to halt global warming, nothing less will be required than a makeover of the $6 trillion global energy business.
6 trillion. Now there's a nice round number you can get your teeth into. And guess who is now poised to cash in on that makeover?

So let's see, start a company 3 years ago (that, of course would be 2004) engaged in investing in "publicly traded "sustainable" companies" and then release a "documentary" in 2006 (that would be "An Inconvenient Truth") telling the world that if they don't start investing in these same sorts of companies, the world will end and then sit back and enjoy the "investments" eh?

Not bad if you can pull it off.
 
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The really slick part will be the imposition of carbon caps and/or taxes. That’s when all of those "clean technologies" that aren’t cost-effective now will suddenly become valuable. Can’t compete on price? Get the government to raise the cost of your competitors.

For the children, of course.
 
Written By: Dave E.
URL: http://fishfearme.blogs.com
I remember learning how to catch fish by blocking off a small sidestream, and then slapping the water to scare the fish into the now dead-ended eddy. The fish, who are placed in a panic, usually don’t see any other way to avoid the perceived danger so they swim right into the trap. Once there, you merely have to close off the open end and, voila, dinner is served.

I think Al Gore must have learned this method as well.
 
Written By: MichaelW
URL: http://asecondhandconjecture.com
Serious question: do you really doubt that Gore is convinced about global warming? Also, here’s what bugs me about the approach some of you take to global warming. I believe the evidence is pretty clear that humans are causing at least part of the problem, if not a good chunk. I recognize that this isn’t a certainty and there are legitimate questions on the science, which is definitely inexact at this point. In fact, I oppose rash measures because of the uncertainty.

That position I hold is attacked because apparently some posters think even acknowledging that it is rational to believe that humans might be causing global warming is wrong. Anyone not in lock step with the "humans aren’t causing it," becomes accused of believing a religion, or caught up in some kind of political scam. In other words, while I acknowledge my position may be wrong, but yet I find it compelling — and accept that you may disagree — many of you can’t accept that you might be wrong, even if you find your position compelling.

That suggests that perhaps you should reconsider who is taking a position for political purposes.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
"I believe the evidence is pretty clear that humans are causing at least part of the problem, if not a good chunk."

And I believe the evidence says no such thing. It’s a well accepted position that human contribution to CO2 levels is somewhere between 3-5%. Another way to say it is that our CO2 contribution is 0.003% of the atmosphere.

It is my "belief" that human beings are creating pollution with a neglible effect on global warming.

That position I hold is attacked because apparently some posters think even acknowledging that it is rational to believe that humans might be causing global warming is wrong. Anyone not in lock step with the "humans aren’t causing it," becomes accused of believing a religion, or caught up in some kind of political scam. In other words, while I acknowledge my position may be wrong, but yet I find it compelling — and accept that you may disagree — many of you can’t accept that you might be wrong, even if you find your position compelling.
I sense alot of projection in that post.

If the Global Warming crowd would like to have an intelligent coversation about the pollution we create that would be a great first step. Let’s just start with smog...
 
Written By: Ody
URL: http://
Serious question: do you really doubt that Gore is convinced about global warming?
One of the tools most often employed by the AGW crowd is to point out that some studies questioning the anthropogenic component have ties to (key scary music) energy companies. Vested interest, they say. Well Scott, what McQ put up shows that (key different scary music) Gore also has a vested interest that is not pure as the lily-white snow, as many would have us believe.

Now it is fairly clear that An Inconvenient Truth is damaged by falsehoods and conveniently spreads a message that can only help with Gore’s financial ambitions. Of the thousand or so real scientists that signed on to the IPCC report, one wonders how many others also have vested financial interests. Additionally I find it curious that so many of these folks would stop scientific investigations that do not start with the premise that AGW is real and catastrophic. If the science was so solid, one would think honest scientists would welcome rigorous testing of their theories.
 
Written By: bains
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6 trillion?

Man, I’m in the wrong line of work...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Those who share the same side of the political spectrum with Erb have accused Bush and Cheney of going to war in Iraq to enrich Haliburton and their other oil industry cronies. They also accused Cheney of scheming to enrich oil companies with policies generated by his his energy task force. Notwithstanding the fact that neither of those accusations were true, Al Gore’s attempt to profit from Global Warming (notwithstanding the fact that AGW is over-hyped BS) is precisely the same thing that liberal douche bags have been whining about since Bush entered office. If they are principaled opponents of war profiteering then they should be against Gore profiting from AGW. I can anticipate their rationalization on grounds that the war was illegal and based on fraudulent grounds. However, even Howard Dean was forced to admit that deposing Saddam was a good thing so the war had at least some beneficial results. That being the case, according to the standard already established by liberals, it is immoral to profit from a tragedy and Gore is no better than the "evil" oil companies and their Bush admin. cronies.
 
Written By: Anonymous
URL: http://www.qando.net
"do you really doubt that Gore is convinced about global warming?"

Yes. Otherwise he would live in a much smaller home (without a heated pool) and conduct all business via video conferencing.

I’m serious here. If it is truly a threat to our planet, and "we can all make a difference" then he needs to change his lifestyle. period. no if ands or buts.

Same thing with two week conferences in Bali, etc. Its funny how trade shows can be done in 4 days, but UN conferences in exotic locales last for two weeks.

 
Written By: Harun
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I’m with Harun. When I wanted to lose weight, I ate less and exercised more. It was that simple for me. I made a drastic lifestyle choice because the consequences were serious due to an inherited conditiion. I was actually in good shape, but the doctors still said I should lose about 10 pounds.

When I see Gore and others do the same, only then I will take them seriously.

 
Written By: Ody
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Yes. Otherwise he would live in a much smaller home (without a heated pool) and conduct all business via video conferencing.
He could live in a tent and do no business and it would not have one bit of an impact on global warming. So that doesn’t show anything. It would be irrational for him to sacrifice his life style if it will do no good; it would only make sense for him to sacrifice if large numbers of people altered their approach and he was part of it. (That’s the same reason why the argument that if someone is concerned about poverty they should give all their stuff to the poor doesn’t work).

Believe it or not, one can be wealthy and be concerned about poverty. One can live in a large house and be concerned about global warming. One can be overweight and concerned about our nation’s health.

 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Until you or Gore, or any other AGW advocate is willing to change your own ways, how dare you demand that I change mine.

What contemptable arrogance...
 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
Being concerned is one thing. Standing in front of the crowd, waving your banner, urging them forward and then standing there, safe, after they’ve rushed by you and over the barricades to do your bidding, is another thing entirely.

It’s called Leadership by Example, and Gore ain’t there.

No one’s asking him to live in a tent, but I for damn sure want him going over the barricades next to me if that’s what he wants done.

Another group of people who tell other people how glorious the future is, and what wonderful rewards they will receive for their service is the mullahs who continue their lifestyles while their followers strap on Semtex and blow themselves up along with pizza parlors, buses and buildings.
If martyrdom is so cool, how come they ain’t doin it.

Same to Gore. And I don’t want to hear any bull about Carbon offsets. That’s like buying plenary indulgences, and in his case, he’s paying himself for environmental sins he hasn’t committed yet.
 
Written By: looker
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Previous Erb (when talking about someone he doesn’t like):
...would have the moral high ground, and isn’t it more important to do the right thing...
 
Written By: JWG
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Bains, I’m certainly not demanding you change your own ways. Gore may be — I actually haven’t seen his movie or heard his plans in detail. I’m on record saying I prefer not to have government regulation as the way to solve this problem. Government involvement in the form of tax breaks, incentives and aid to research and development is fine.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
" So that doesn’t show anything"

Other than leadership and consistency.

"it would only make sense for him to sacrifice if large numbers of people altered their approach and he was part of it"

So we get to go first. Typical. Leading from the rear, like the rest of the collectivists. The great philosopher M. Brooks once said ’It’s good to be the king’. It is just as good to be more equal than others, as Orwell might have said.

On the other hand, after a long and distinguished career of sacrifice and public service, it is only fair that he should now be served.
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
Move over, L Ron Hubbard.
 
Written By: Neo
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Serious question: do you really doubt that Gore is convinced about global warming?
His movie grossly exaggerated GW. Either he’s clueless, or he’s lying.

 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
Serious question: do you really doubt that Gore is convinced about global warming?
He’s seriously convinced GW is going to be good for his business.
Just like Barnum, he’s looking for customers and isn’t afraid to humbug them to get them in the door.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
Scott, the one area of the AGW debate that incenses me most is that crap you wrote in defense of Gore’s lifestyle. By choice, my carbon footprint is miniscule, and has been for nearly 3 decades. Both my household and office recycles nearly everything possible; bicycling or walking is the advocated and preferred method of getting about on a daily basis. I’ve got CFB in all but the halogen lamps. I’m the guy you see picking up random trash in the park while walking my dogs. Again, my choice - I like a clean environment.

So when some self-absorbed blow-hard who has set himself up as cardinal of the AGW church, replete with the opulence bestowed upon the title, tells me I need to sacrifice more (higher fees and taxes) because more people are not living like me, I get a little ticked off. And when some liberal college prof defends that cardinal’s lifestyles, because, after all, he cant change the overall CO2 output, well then, I’m livid. Not because neither Gore nor I can change that output, but because I have made the choice to limit my impact upon this planet, while he, and so many of his likeminded global climate change tyrants can only be bothered to tell everybody else to do what they refuse to do themselves.

As Glenn Reynolds so succinctly put: I’ll believe it is a crisis when those who tell me it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis. Otherwise STFU!
 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
After all, what, exactly, is his liability if you believe him and he’s wrong?

Nothing -

Exactly the same liability the Y2K hypsters had when they sold people all kinds of crap they didn’t need just in case the computers caused armageddon -

Professor Erb, did you, by chance, purchase extra supplies for Y2K?
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
Looker, no, I actually made a point to have less than $10 cash on me on Dec. 31, 1999. I thought the Y2K panic was utterly absurd.

Bains, you really have no standing to criticize Gore’s lifestyle and choices (and you probably don’t really know much about it — you can’t trust the attack dogs on the right). It has nothing to do with the debate about global warming or what to do about it. Obsession with other people’s personal choices is a bit obscene and distracts from any real issue.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Listen you snot, I’m not criticizing Gore’s lifestyles, I’m lambasting all those who tell me I need to do more when I’m already doing more than those bloviating POS’s. Normally, I’d give you a pass on the misdirection, but not here. As I said, this particular line really ticks me off.
 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
So NOW that we’re talking about Gore, Erb does NOT think the moral high ground is important or that it is more important to do the right thing.

Got it. Classic Erb.
 
Written By: JWG
URL: http://
Erb on torture (emphasis mine):
Effective interrogation techniques do not require torture, there is no reason that the Bush White House shouldn’t aggressively support anti-torture measures, and send a clear message that we do act according to our values. Only if we can be convincing on that front do we have a chance to convince people in the region that Americans do not wish them ill and do not want to simply exploit them for oil. We must not be hypocritical.
So Bush needs to send a clear message in order for America to avoid being hypocritical.

But we should ignore the personal message Gore sends and only focus on the bigger message.

This is a pattern with Erb.
 
Written By: JWG
URL: http://
...and Scott, you are the fool that chooses to stand in front of the rhetorical double barreled shotgun.

Your words:
He could live in a tent and do no business and it would not have one bit of an impact on global warming.[...]It would be irrational for him to sacrifice his life style if it will do no good;
If it is irrational for him to sacrifice his lifestyle, "if it will do no good," then why the F@#K do you think anyone else should sacrifice theirs?
 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
Bains, why do you think I’m asking anyone to sacrifice their lifestyle? I’m not saying people have to do more. I don’t know how to handle global warming. I’ll be up front. While I recycle and try to conserve, I have a 3700 square foot house I’m heating with fuel oil, I have a Honda Pilot, I love going for drives in the country side just for the sake of exploring rural roads, especially in autumn when the leaves are changing. I’d be pissed if governmental laws tried to force me to change...yet, I realize that I may need to change some of my behaviors. I think we’ll invest in solar panels in the coming years, and I plan to get a smaller car next time (with two kids in the snowy north I don’t want to get too small). I used to commute 40 miles to work each day, I stopped that, in part out of concern for the use of gas — but I did that commute for eight years.

So yeah, I don’t know what we should do. I’m not about to get self-righteous, I’m in no position to do so. Still, I think humans are a cause of global warming, and it’s something we need to think about.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Prof - solar - yeah, do it. I’m sure it’s much improved since I lived up that way, and I cut my fuel oil bill by 2/3 - this was back in the late 80’s.

As for Gore, unless he’s going to walk the walk with the rest of us, he can stuff his talk.

Like I said, lead by example. But like most of the people who want us to change to suit their visions, they aren’t interested in change for themselves.
Bains, you really have no standing to criticize Gore’s lifestyle and choices (and you probably don’t really know much about it — you can’t trust the attack dogs on the right).
yeah, it sounds like Bains DOES because he’s walking the walk.
Gore, not so much.

This post is about GORE, cashing in, on his GW hype. So,
other people’s personal choices is
is exactly what the post is about. Gore’s cashing in is the real issue for THIS post.
As normal, you’ve trotted out the high dudgeon horse to mount.
You are the only one who views this discussion as an indication there is an obsession about Gore here.

The rest of us are using the word ’hypocrit’.

Still, I think humans are a cause of global warming, and it’s something we need to think about.
Still, we think you’re wrong.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
"Bains, you really have no standing to criticize Gore’s lifestyle and choices (and you probably don’t really know much about it — you can’t trust the attack dogs on the right)."

If he can criticize ours, we can criticize his.
Some excerpts from those right-wing attack dogs, the NY Times and USA Today—


"The Gores live in a whitewashed neoclassical mansion with a pillared portico in the ritzy Nashville neighborhood of Belle Meade. Tipper Gore had agreed to meet me there, and we sat outside by the pool, which was then still covered for the winter; a servant brought iced tea on a tray, along with a vase of tulips. The whole setting was redolent of genteel withdrawal;..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/magazine/20wwln-gore-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

"Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore’s example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world’s role model for ecology, the planet is doomed."

"Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.)"

" But according to public records, there is no evidence that Gore has signed up to use green energy in either of his large residences. When contacted Wednesday, Gore’s office confirmed as much but said the Gores were looking into making the switch at both homes. Talk about inconvenient truths. "

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
Bains, why do you think I’m asking anyone to sacrifice their lifestyle?
Scott, just how stupid do you think I am? By defending Gore’s hypocrisy, you are asking others to sacrifice that which Gore (and you?) refuse to give up themselves. Your words again:
It would be irrational for him to sacrifice his life style if it will do no good;
And you defend this on the alter of the Church of Anthropogenic Global Warming?
 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
The rest of us are using the word ’hypocrit’.
But you’re spelling it incorrectly.
 
Written By: [cb]
URL: http://
Yes, indeed, I am!
so, one of the words we use for me is Numbskull.
 
Written By: looker
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