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Gimme that old time religion ...
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, November 13, 2007

Addressing the "non-existent" problem of Iranian gays, an Iranian leader said:
Homosexuals deserve to be executed or tortured and possibly both, an Iranian leader told British MPs during a private meeting at a peace conference, The Times has learnt.

Mohsen Yahyavi is the highest-ranked politician to admit that Iran believes in the death penalty for homosexuality after a spate of reports that gay youths were being hanged.
And on the home front, Howard Dean decides:
In another statement likely to stir debate among the evangelical Christians his party is urgently trying to court, Dean also asserted “there are no bars to heaven for anybody,” according to the report by JTA, a 90-year-old non-profit organization which calls itself “the global news service of the Jewish people.”
Huh. And here I thought all he had run for was President.

And lost.
 
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Good thing those Iranian gays aren’t in the US...

We wouldn’t let them marry. They are so lucky to be in Iran...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Scott Jacobs,

I’ve never met anyone who claimed that it was awesome to be gay in Iran as compared to the U.S. Still, its pretty silly that gay people cannot create in many states the sort of legal arrangements that heterosexuals can when it comes to their partners.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
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What Iranian gays? I thought that was just a ’western phenomenon’.

Everyone knows there are no such things as gays in Iran.

/sarcasm
 
Written By: Joel C.
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Still, its pretty silly that gay people cannot create in many states the sort of legal arrangements that heterosexuals can when it comes to their partners.
We’re in total agreement on that.
 
Written By: McQ
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Never said it wasn’t silly.

I merely suggest that every person who cries out how terrible the US is to it’s gay population might want to take a look.

Last I heard, we didn’t execute people for merely acting gay in public. If we did, Richard Simons would have been killed years ago.
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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Scott Jacobs,

For most things (anything?) Iran is not the means by which I make judgments about the U.S. domestic situation. Or to put it more bluntly, sure X country may have way more regulation of business than the U.S., but that still doesn’t mean I’m going to be happy about the overall level of regulation of business in the U.S.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
Scott Jacobs,

The other obvious point of course is that American homosexuals are dealing with American law, not Iranian law. So it isn’t all that surprising that they would be more concerned with American law.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
But the Left (ever the true champions of teh gheys) seems to think Ammie is just a good, upstanding dude. I mean, the guy would never lie to us...

Perhaps I should be asking "How does Venuzuela treat it’s homosexual population?"
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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I’ve never met anyone who claimed that it was awesome to be gay in Iran as compared to the U.S. Still, its pretty silly that gay people cannot create in many states the sort of legal arrangements that heterosexuals can when it comes to their partners.
The flip side is that it’s good to understand how well you have it in the US. Simply looking at the cup as half empty all the time has it’s shortcomings.

And, the other argument is that there are quite a few leftist useful idiots who come up with a varity of moral equivilence arguments. For example, "Iran has the same right to nukes as the US; the US actually used them against innocent civilians in war!".
 
Written By: Don
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The flip side is that it’s good to understand how well you have it in the US.

I’m sorry, but no. Particularly since homosexuals clearly have it better in at least some other Western countries than is the case in much of the U.S. (at least from the standpoint of being gay). Indeed, let us note that until 2003 or 2004 a half a dozen U.S. states still had legally enforceable statutes on their books which permitted the state to imprison an individual for engaging in adult consensual sex.

And, the other argument is that there are quite a few leftist useful idiots who come up with a varity of moral equivilence arguments.

Actually, my argument is clearly against moral equivalence.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
Indeed, let us note that until 2003 or 2004 a half a dozen U.S. states still had legally enforceable statutes on their books which permitted the state to imprison an individual for engaging in adult consensual sex.
But those laws had nothing to do with the sexual preference of the defendants, a man and woman could be prosecuted under the very same statutes.

I am however in agreement that from a legal standpoint, they ought to be given partner rights in the eyes of the state parallel to hetero couples, and don’t have those rights, despite their faithfulness to their partners.


 
Written By: looker
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What the hell is this?
Good thing those Iranian gays aren’t in the US...

We wouldn’t let them marry. They are so lucky to be in Iran...
The flip side is that it’s good to understand how well you have it in the US. Simply looking at the cup as half empty all the time has it’s shortcomings.
Yeah, packers, consider yourselves lucky we don’t hang you from the nearest tree. We even let you parade.

Syloson beat me to it, but I’ll extend anyway.

What if a liberal were to say, “Yeah big business, you’re lucky you’re not in France. We would regulate you out of business.” What would conservatives and libertarians say, Boy our glass is half full, we better stop there and count our lucky stars.

No, that’s not what we say. In fact, we would give that liberal a hardy “Fah-huuuuck you!!” for suggesting that we’re lucky not to live in France.

I mean… What the f*ck???

Cheers.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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looker,

But those laws had nothing to do with the sexual preference of the defendants, a man and woman could be prosecuted under the very same statutes.

Actually, the laws in some states applied exclusively to homosexuals. According to this website the sodomy laws remaining on the books prior to Lawrence applied only to homosexuals in Texas, Oklahoma, Maryland and Kansas.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/

 
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