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Nothing like a little rat’s milk to save the planet
Posted by: McQ on Monday, November 19, 2007

If you're at all familiar with Speakers' Corner, a popular centuries old free-speech site in London, then you also know that with all that free-speech you are certainly sure to hear some profoundly bizarre stuff.

Vegan, former model and ex-wife of Paul McCartney (and now you know why), Heather Mills, pushing the launch of a poster campaign by animals charity Viva! During her rant she said:
"The startling truth is that animals farmed for met and dairy are now one of the greatest threats to the planet.

"The United Nations last year issued a shocking report on the environmental damage being done by livestock.

"I became a vegetarian for health reasons. Then I found out about the awful animal abuse in factory farms and dairy herds and became vegan.

"The easiest and most effective way of cutting our contribution is to change our diet and go vegan. It is that simple.

"We are the only species that drinks another creature's milk so why aren't we drinking rats' milk, dogs' milk or cats' milk? That is how crazy it is."
She's obviously never had an Oreo or she wouldn't be asking silly questions like that. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that becoming a vegan is the last step before going stark raving mad.

And typical of the "do as I say, not as I do" mentality of most of these "save Mother earth" types, her mode of transportation to and from the event left her credibility in the dust. Not that anyone should necessarily be surprised.
 
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Just to note, Speaker’s Corner only came into being as such in the late 1860s.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
So its been there for a part of 3 centuries then, correct?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
McQ,

If someone were tell me that an institution was "decades old" my first thought wouldn’t be that it was actually seventeen years old, but happened to span three decades (e.g., the 1760s, the 1770s and the 1780s). My thought would be that they meant it was more than two decades old; that is more than twenty years old. The same is true when someone states that an item, institution, etc. is "centuries old." Speaker’s Corner isn’t "centuries old"; it will be in the 2060s.


 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
On a more OT point, lots of historians have noted that much of what is considered "ancient" re: modern state, culture, etc. is of rather modern invention. More on this issue can be found in Benedict Anderson’s wonderful book "Imagine Communities."
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
I’m almost positive it was you who said:
Sorry, I’m not into logomachy.
Like many of your claims, I’m having difficulty finding it to be a credible one.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
McQ,

It was just a friendly correction.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
"We are the only species that drinks another creature’s milk so why aren’t we drinking rats’ milk, dogs’ milk or cats’ milk? That is how crazy it is."
I wanna see Heather milk a cat.
 
Written By: Steverino
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It was just a friendly correction.
Heh ... uh, huh.
 
Written By: McQ
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"We are the only species that drinks another creature’s milk..."

I wonder if that is actually the case or not. Animals often eat the eggs of other animals. I could definately see a situation where a creature evolved to "steal" the milk of another creature.

Anyway, I’m sure if it were practicable rat’s milk would be used, given the varying types animals we humans use to produce milk
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
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McQ,

Yes, it was.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
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All of the animals that I know of that are used to produce milk for human consumption are goat-sized (in other words, a goat) or larger.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
Great.

Obviously I’ve rejected it. But thanks anyway.
 
Written By: McQ
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I gather she hasn’t carried out her thought of how we’d soon work at rat breeding to create the largest possible rats which would yield the largest possible quantity of milk, and would industrialize the process to do so.
But she probably has not a clue about how long it took to domestic and cross breed to achieve the bovines we have today.

and with regard to the wording...
Sounds like you created a slight breach of etiquette there McQ by going for the centuries time period by skipping the century and a half time period.

Alas that you waxed poetic, and didn’t leave it at
"a popular freaking old free-speech site in London".

I myself almost faux pas’d it just now by typing
"a popular really freaking old free-speech site in London"
when of course it would have had to have been instituted in, say the time of King James to have been a ’really’ freaking old free-speech site.
I quickly realized my error and settled on simply noting is was freaking old.

In retrospect, perhaps even freaking old is too much and I should have settled on simply ’old’.
 
Written By: looker
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I could definately see a situation where a creature evolved to "steal" the milk of another creature.
Highly unlikely, given what an animal must do to get milk. Most grown animals are too big to get their heads in a position to suck from a teat. And it’s not like the female in question will sit still for another species taking an univited drink. Also, animals are weaned off mother’s milk by a process of souring; with this implanted in their heads, few grown animals will seek milk out (it’s icky, after all).

Yeah, domestic animals used for milk consumption are all pretty big, because the quantity collected from smaller animals isn’t sufficient.

I still wanna see her milk a cat.

 
Written By: Steverino
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looker,

Which King James? The I or II? ;)

 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
steverino,

Actually, I was thinking of parasites and the like, not necessarily a mammal.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
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steverino,

I just found out that in some places moose are used as a source of milk. Quelle horreur!
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
Which King James? The I or II? ;)
....probably either one.

Now that I think more about it...
You know, ’really’ freaking old might even go back to King John.
After all, ’freaking old’ is pretty freaking old.

WRT milking - sometimes other animals will allow out of species young to take milk. For example someone send her the story of the origins of Rome.
 
Written By: looker
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looker,

No, the definition of "really freaking old" would probably be the start of the neolithic. ;)
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
Speaking of milking a cat, the very existence of cats falsifies the claim that "we are the only species that drinks another creature’s milk." Cats absolutely adore cows’ milk (although I’m told that adult cats shouldn’t be fed it).
 
Written By: Thomas L. Knapp
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I just found out that in some places moose are used as a source of milk. Quelle horreur!
Yikes. I don’t think I want to drink that, but my hat is off to the milkmaids (imagine their grip strength!). I wonder whether it makes a decent cheese, however.
 
Written By: Steverino
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Steverino,

Moose milking on NPR.
 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
Moose bit my sister once.
 
Written By: looker
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See the løveli lakes

 
Written By: Syloson of Samos
URL: http://ingenuus.blogspot.com/
The wonderful telephøne system

And mani interesting furry animals
Which man should learn to milk!
In a non-production style of course.
 
Written By: looker
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Of course the obvious answer to this,
"We are the only species that drinks another creature’s milk so why aren’t we drinking rats’ milk, dogs’ milk or cats’ milk? That is how crazy it is."
Is because rat’s milk tastes like sh*t. That’s why you silly tart.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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I won’t even drink human milk! Its fine for babies who don’t know better, but once you’re a big kid you only want cow milk.

BTW, Rat meat supposedly can be very tasty, especially if the rat lived in sugar cane fields.
 
Written By: Harun
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Animals do drink other creatures milk. They just don’t have a way of getting it without our help.
 
Written By: jows
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Cats absolutely adore cows’ milk (although I’m told that adult cats shouldn’t be fed it).
In my experience, it gives them diarrhea. Not a happy thing for them (or for you, if they’re indoor cats like mine).
 
Written By: Achillea
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I won’t even drink human milk! Its fine for babies who don’t know better, but once you’re a big kid you only want cow milk.
...uummh

well....

No. Better to leave that alone.
 
Written By: bains
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There are several insect species that "Milk" other insects, such as ants and aphids. Mammals can drink milk from other mammals, but as its been pointed out aquiring that in the wild is beyond most mammals capability.

Of course, our vegan mental giant also ignores the correlary of her "do what the animals do/don’t do what animals don’t" belief. Animals kill and eat other animals. So, really vegans can’t use them as standards of behavior for us.
 
Written By: the Brain
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