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SNAFU: Military demands bonus money from wounded soldiers
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, November 20, 2007

What mental midget in DoD authorized this stupidity?
The U.S. Military is demanding that thousands of wounded service personnel give back signing bonuses because they are unable to serve out their commitments.

To get people to sign up, the military gives enlistment bonuses up to $30,000 in some cases.

Now men and women who have lost arms, legs, eyesight, hearing and can no longer serve are being ordered to pay some of that money back.

One of them is Jordan Fox, a young soldier from the South Hills.

He finds solace in the hundreds of boxes he loads onto a truck in Carnegie. In each box is a care package that will be sent to a man or woman serving in Iraq. It was in his name Operation Pittsburgh Pride was started.

Fox was seriously injured when a roadside bomb blew up his vehicle. He was knocked unconscious. His back was injured and lost all vision in his right eye.

A few months later Fox was sent home. His injuries prohibited him from fulfilling three months of his commitment. A few days ago, he received a letter from the military demanding nearly $3,000 of his signing bonus back.
Someone had to OK it and I demand his or her salary be returned since it is obvious they shouldn't have been working there at all if they think this is a good idea. I even volunteer to write the letter telling them so too.
 
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Would additional signatures help?

How about torches and pitchforks and an angry mob (I’m serious).

What was the acronym - REMF?
 
Written By: looker
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I wouldn’t be suprised if the names got selected by a computer program, and the letters sent out automatically.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
URL: http://asecondhandconjecture.com
KDKA contacted Congressman Jason Altmire [D-PA 04] on his behalf. He says he has proposed a bill that would guarantee soldiers receive full benefit of bonuses.
I think very few conservative would have a problem supporting this Congressman on this issue.
 
Written By: bains
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If you know anyone who is affected by this and needs legal representation please have them email me. I will see that they get that representation free of charge.

This insults all of us taxpayers who pay this fool’s compensation.

 
Written By: vnjagvet
URL: http://www.yargb.blogspot.com
this is inconscionable. whoever did this should be fired, tared, and feathered.
 
Written By: Joel C.
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This is beyond belief. Thanks, vnjagvet.
 
Written By: Mark
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This is not acceptable. Period! Who gave the okay for this travesty? I want their name spread to every milblog around the world. I want them hounded mercilessly.

Who do we write? How do we get this changed? Who is the culprit that we pillory?

It is real isn’t it? (I hate to say that, but we all know what happens when the news media runs with a story that fits their screwy world view...)

 
Written By: Teresa
URL: http://technicalities.mu.nu
"I wouldn’t be suprised if the names got selected by a computer program"

So who told the programmer what to put in the program?

At the risk of seeming insensitive and uncaring, I would like to point out, as others have in similar cases, that these are the same people who will be in charge of approving who is eligible for government run health care. I know it is repetitious, but I think it needs to be repeated as often as necessary.
 
Written By: timactual
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I’ve screwed with more than a few times by military finance offices. It got worse when they civilianized most of the slots. Finance soldiers are usually pretty understanding but the civilians are just watching the clock and don’t give a crap. Let me qualify that by saying Not All civilian employees are like that but it seems like about 3 out of 4 are just there to collect a check.
 
Written By: Bob
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It might be auto in the computers for things like, you know, pregnancy and such.
 
Written By: Synova
URL: http://synova.blogspot.com
About the civilians, Bob. I wonder if retired military are the same or if they "get it" better.

In all honesty, learning the system and the rules and how to accomplish what needs to be accomplished is sort of an art form. (There’s always a few people in a unit who don’t seem to be able to catch on enough to function while there are also a few other people in the unit who seem to be able to bend the military to their will.)

In any case, my limited experience mirrors yours. Getting a civilian employee to fix something is sort of a crap shoot.
 
Written By: Synova
URL: http://synova.blogspot.com
I was told by several Dept of the Army Civilians that no soldiers are "forced" off active duty due to injuries. They can choose to finish out their enlistment no matter what injury they have. They also stated that if story is in fact true then it was most likely the ones who chose to leave voluntarily that received the letters.


A. Again I am going on heresay. I have no facts to back up either story other than what I have read or heard. Maybe someone with connections can further check out or clarify the validity of the above statement.

B. Either way, if this story is accurate than I still think someone should get fired regardless whether a soldier left voluntarily or not due to injuries.

I am somewhat of a skeptic on almost any story I see in print today especially about the war. My instinct is that the reporters automatically slat the story in the worst possible way to make the military and the administration look as bad as they possibly can.





 
Written By: retired military
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If the difference is a desk-job until the end of enlistment in order not to have to pay back the bonus then... well... it’s got to be understood and included in whatever career counseling and medical discharge processing happens. And the degree of being disabled is probably important as well. What are the rules about getting medical discharges? We mostly hear about those people who fight to stay in the service despite being blind or having lost arms or legs.
 
Written By: Synova
URL: http://synova.blogspot.com

Please write to your local congressman/woman with a short letter, asking them to support "THE VETERANS GUARANTEED BONUS ACT, H.R.

BITCHING HERE ABOUT THE ADM..WON’T DO MUCH BUT TAKE UP CYBER SPACE...:)
3793.
As for the validity of this problem,
one soldier facing this issue, would be too many, however, at last round-up According to the Defense Finance and Accounting Service,

EACH MONTH: from October 2005 through October of 2006, at least 600 members of the military and as many as 1,100 have owed bonus debts totaling anywhere from $2.5 million dollars each month to $4 million.

THERE are MANY PROBLEMS WITH THE DOD AND WITH THE VA...BUT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT WILL DO LITTLE...TODAY ON THIS THANKSGIVING CONSIDER CALLING YOUR CONGRESS, OR CONSIDER VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME, VISIT A VET, LEND A HAND, WRITE A LETTER AND BE THANKFUL YOU ARE NOT BEING SHOT AT!!!!!

Representative Susan Davis
Chair, Subcommittee on Military Personnel
U.S. House of Representatives
1526 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515

Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Office of the Speaker
H-232, US Capitol
Washington, DC 20515

 
Written By: Suz
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