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Islam: Name your teddy "Muhammad" and die
Posted by: McQ on Friday, November 30, 2007

Sometimes I'm stunned by the intolerance and barbarity of certain cultures and religions:
Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and knives, rallied Friday in a central square and demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad."
But it's not an insult to name a child Muhammad? Naturally the fervor is being whipped up by so-called "religious" leaders who, in the next breath, would probably try to tell you their religion is one of peace:
The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pickup trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gillian Gibbons, the teacher who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation.
It is incidents like these which cause people in the west to fear Islam as a whole and to doubt the claims made by clerics who contend the religion is moderate and peaceful. Other examples, like the girl gang raped in Saudi Arabia and then sentenced to 6 months in jail and 200 lashes for being "unfaithful" to her husband (and gays hung in Iran) further underscore the problem.

Until incidents like those and others become the exception rather than the seeming norm, Westerners are going to reject Islam's claims of being a peaceful religion. And given the state of women's rights, certainly not one acceptable to the principles of Western culture. Something is going to have to give. And while many claim that there isn't any element of a "clash of cultures" involved between the West and Islam, such claims seem empty given the evidence. The question is which culture will blink first?

Knowing the present culture of the West all too well, with its insistence on cultural parity and non-judgemental tolerance I'm afraid I know.
 
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That’s because in the west we’d realize how absolutely stupid we’d appear gathered in front of the local jail with torches and pitchforks shouting.

"Bring out the Teddy Bear lady! Hangin’s too good for her!".

This is yet another example of why not all cultures are equal, despite what some people who linger here think.
 
Written By: looker
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prepare for the ’McQ’s a racist/xenophobe!’ in 5....4...3...2...1...
 
Written By: Joel C.
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I have the same fear; that we will give in continuously to do what those who despise us demand as we are seeing in Great Britain and Canada. I have never understood why the opinion makers in the West have no faith in its institutions. Do they think that their proposed changes will not impact them? Are they just useful idiots as Lenin thought? Yes, I know western institutions have failed in the past, but in this country we fought a civil war to correct the wrong. Who else has done that? We zig and zag in our policies to find the right approach for governance, but our way, for all of its flaws, is the obvious correct way. If it weren’t, all those who criticize and are so horrified, would flee to greener pastures for the sake of them and their families; thus making room, despite all of the negatives broadcast to the world about our country and culture, for the millions who beat at our doors for entry.
 
Written By: AMR
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I’d hesitate to go after all Muslims based on what the Sudanese regime does. It’s one of the most brutal dictatorships on Earth. Those "marchers" were likely given an offer they couldn’t refuse (say, something like: "I can assure you that your head will be at the march; the rest of your body is up to you").
 
Written By: D.J. McGuire
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A logical fallacy I like to warn against is to take examples, especially extreme and emotional examples, and to extrapolate them into broad generalizations. That is the stuff from which bigotry and racism form. Most Muslims, the vast majority of course, are peaceful and friendly people — it is inherently unfair to brand them by the acts of extremists.

This is, of course, an error many in the Mideast make when they see our TV and movies and think Americans are a greedy, money grubbing, alcohol swilling, adulterous amoral soulless folk, who have lost all values.

While such incidents may explain WHY some people have a fear of a culture or a religion, it must also be pointed out that rational people recognize the danger of reacting to such incidents with a general phobia, and instead realize that taking extremes of any culture can yield a negative image. The title of the post is fundamentally irrational and misleading — it extrapolates to "Islam" a specific extreme case. That’s like extrapolating an atrocity committed by some soldiers and saying the entire American military is defined by those acts. Would that be rational?
 
Written By: Scott Erb
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A logical fallacy I like to warn against is to take examples, especially extreme and emotional examples, and to extrapolate them into broad generalizations. That is the stuff from which bigotry and racism form.
Scott lectures us on logical fallacies . . .
Most Muslims, the vast majority of course, are peaceful and friendly people — it is inherently unfair to brand them by the acts of extremists.
Yes, of course most Muslims are peaceful. It’s the minority of violent ones that are the problem. Well, except for the other problem of the larger minority that enables the violent ones (in Palestine, are the violent enablers a minority?).

As far as friendly—perhaps OBL himself is friendly, except, that is, to the people he plans to murder.
 
Written By: Don
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You’re presuming we’re saying that the Sudanese culture of Islam is identical to, say, the Jordanian culture of Islam.

I don’t think anyone actually said that - you’re inferring it.

But the basis for their behavior is Islam -

"No tolerance: Execution,"
"This an arrogant woman who came to our country, cashing her salary in dollars, teaching our children hatred of our Prophet Muhammad".
Tough to blame the behavior on being Sudanese only, especially when you have Islamic clerics rousing the people up.

Ignorant people, with time on their hands to gather and riot.
Let me guess, unemployment is a major problem in the Sudan.

(Too bad she didn’t name the bear Fuzzy Wuzzy...I doubt they would have understood)

 
Written By: looker
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I’d hesitate to go after all Muslims based on what the Sudanese regime does.
That’s why I threw the examples from Saudi Arabia and Iran in there as well.
 
Written By: McQ
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Sure, Scott: the vast majority of muslims in the Middle East were horrified, simply horrified at the mass murders committed on 9/11. They were out there protesting by the hundreds of thousands ’Death to Bin Laden!’

No, wait...I misread that...it’s actually ’Death to Ahmericha’....weird name for a Muslim...
 
Written By: Joel C.
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I’d hesitate to go after all Muslims based on what the Sudanese regime does.
I wouldn’t.

After all, it’s not like we haven’t seen this type of behavior many many MANY times from muslims in various countries before.

This is just one more example.
 
Written By: shark
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That’s like extrapolating an atrocity committed by some soldiers and saying the entire American military is defined by those acts. Would that be rational?
When thousands of US soldiers rampage through an area committing atrocities, let me know.

We don’t have to extrapolate the behavior of the Sudanese by looking at what a few of them are doing, and presuming that a lot of them might do it.
A lot of them ARE doing it. There is no extrapolation necessary here.
You, on the other hand, can’t seem to discern that distinction in your rush to non-judgement.
 
Written By: looker
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Tolerance - seems like that would extend to saying ’excuse me Ma’m, allowing the children to name the bear Muhammad may offend members of our religion. It’s a bad idea and you should reconsider the name, it’s offensive to us."

But no, instead, arrested, jailed, tried (unsatisfactorily for the populace), and now demanding her death.
Yes, indeed, demonstration that their version of the Islamic religion is one of tolerance and peace.



 
Written By: looker
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"Fear Islam"? No, more like laugh at Islam. What a bunch of losers.
 
Written By: Paul
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That’s like extrapolating an atrocity committed by some soldiers and saying the entire American military is defined by those acts.
Wait a minute - isn’t this the same guy who agreed that the US military was the most brutal the world had ever seen with absolutely no evidence but the declaration of some know-nothing?

"Caricature" doesn’t quite seem to fully capture the depth of his lunacy does it?
 
Written By: McQ
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"Caricature" doesn’t quite seem to fully capture the depth of his lunacy does it?
That’s gonna leave a mark!
 
Written By: SShiell
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"...to take examples..., and to extrapolate them into broad generalizations."

Strangely enough I actually paid good money to have some other college professors teach me to do exactly that. They called it something like ’statistics’.

Imagine the Jihads if their prophet was named John.
 
Written By: timactual
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which culture will blink first?
In July of this year, Stanislav Shmulevich was arrested and charged with a felony “hate crime” for taking a dump on a Quran.

This happened in America, in New York, of all places.

It seems we’ve blinked already.
 
Written By: Words Twice
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paged in today (Saturday) -

I noted, and just couldn’t resist - here’s a link to an add that’s morphed in at the top of the comments page as I sit here and type this....

http://us.singlemuslim.com/

I’m imagining some young Muslim guy, linked in to this post through a Google search, to read these comments and he gets this add.
Being lonely (perhaps) he clicks it, and to shorten a long story, ends up meeting a nice girl, they marry, live a sane, tolerant life in a mostly sane tolerant country and raise sane tolerant children (so, at the moment, Sudan is out).

But the irony of the add tie in is, well, just priceless.

 
Written By: looker
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Its political, Islam is only the vehicle and not the reason.

Basically the Sudanese are saying "Oh brothers, look how well we are protecting our moral values against these foreign devils. We have arrested this blaspheming school teacher, who has insulted the name of our great prophet, PBUH. Please pay no attention to the 20,000 foreign troops we are letting march into our lands and remember this government is totally committed to protecting the moral values of Sudan."

They gain a moral victory.
 
Written By: unaha-closp
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Its not just some small number of dwindling extremists. The problem is growing in some places (and shrinking in others, I’d imagine.)

In Indonesia in 1990, I’d see my Muslim roommate playing with his dog and then later on see two young school girls (wearing the jilbab)completely shrieking because a puppy was 10 feet from them.

So, somewhere between those two generations, the little girls got taught that dogs are very bad, whereas the previous more tolerant version of Islam let people own them and play with them.

 
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