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AQI: Your Mission - blow up three bombs by January
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, December 04, 2007

Reuters is announcing that per a jihadi website the AQI leader has called for renewed bombing in Iraq:
The leader of the Islamic State in Iraq, an al Qaeda-linked group forced on the defensive by its former tribal allies, ordered a renewed bombing campaign against Iraqi security forces in a Web message on Tuesday.

"This campaign should be based on explosives and its target should be the apostates ... wearing uniforms and all those who fight alongside the occupiers," Abu Omar al-Baghdadi said in an audio recording posted on an Islamist Web site.

"Every soldier (militant) is to detonate at least three bombs by the end of the campaign," he said.

The campaign would continue until an Islamic date corresponding to the last days of January, he added.
Obviously bothered by the peace and security that Iraqis are beginning to enjoy as well as their total rejection of AQI and its tenets, the terrorists have declared an renewed effort to disrupt or destroy the progress which has been made there.

However, you have to a) be able to (or have) establish support and a base of operation among the people to make this happen, and b) be able to move freely, resupply and plan in order to execute such a directive. Those conditions are going to be very difficult for AQI (ISI) to develop and control.

So while this could cause some problems, remember this:
Baghdadi made a similar call in mid-September marking the beginning of Islam's holy month of Ramadan.
And you remember how effective that was, don't you?
 
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its target should be the apostates ... wearing uniforms and all those who fight alongside the occupiers
hmmm this just comes off as kind of moronic. perhaps its a mistranslation.
oc·cu·py (ky-p)
tr.v. oc·cu·pied, oc·cu·py·ing, oc·cu·pies
1. To fill up (time or space): a lecture that occupied three hours.
2. To dwell or reside in.
3. To hold or fill (an office or position).
4. To seize possession of and maintain control over by or as if by conquest.
5. To engage or employ the attention or concentration of: occupied the children with coloring books.
If the population is helping us, how can we be occupiers, in the bad sense of the word that is?
 
Written By: josh b
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I see your alternate, fictional reality of an Iraq becoming stable and the public liking us is being maintained in this blog. For a more realistic appraisal see:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/12/04/iraq/

This "optimism" is going to go the way of "slow and steady progress." But you’ll find someone on the left to blame. You’ve gone this long unable to admit having been wrong about Iraq, why should I expect that to change?
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
And I’m sure that Dr Erb will persist in his "quagmire," "worst foreign policy blunder" meme as well....I just see more evidence of progress than quagmire. But take some consolation Dr. both the PCF and PCI continued well into the 1950’s touting the "failure" of the Marshall Plan, so you’re in good company, as far as intellectuals arguing a position not from its merits but from the needs of the party making the argument.
 
Written By: Joe
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... total rejection of AQI and its tenants ...
mmmm. ’Tenets,’ perhaps? Though ’tenants’ does kinda sorta work.
 
Written By: Achillea
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I see your alternate, fictional reality of an Iraq becoming stable and the public liking us is being maintained in this blog. For a more realistic appraisal see:
by Juan Cole?

LOL...you are hilarious.
 
Written By: Twizz
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What always amazes me is how efficently we can get a list of deaths (Prof Erb’s Salon Article reference) for Iraq.
Try getting similiar easy to digest information on violent deaths in the United States or Europe in the same time periods.

The ’west’ has obviously allowed a technology or truth gap to develop. Reporting on Iraq deaths seem infinitely better and more honest on a daily basis to an international audience than we are.
 
Written By: looker
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Curious, the count site doesn’t seem consistent with other reports for the same time period in the same areas.

No doubt when one group says Baquba, it means a larger area than another that says Baquba and that’s why the count for the same day is different.

It IS a puzzler though isn’t it, considering how accurate the information is?
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
This "optimism" is going to go the way of "slow and steady progress." But you’ll find someone on the left to blame. You’ve gone this long unable to admit having been wrong about Iraq, why should I expect that to change?
Erb, now you’re getting all emotional and spitting out bitter Air America left-wing radio talking points. I’m sure it makes you feel better about yourself, but it is not a substitute for serious argumentation.

 
Written By: Jeff
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Juan Cole, right before the surge called this a "myth" that "US military sweeps of neighborhoods can drive the guerrillas out" adding:
The US military cannot defeat the Sunni Arab guerrilla movement or "insurgency" with less than 500,000 troops...The US destroyed Falluja, and even it and other cities of al-Anbar province are not now safe! The US military leaders on the ground have spoken of the desirability of just withdrawing from al-Anbar to Baghdad and giving up on it....The US has not and is unlikely to be able to repress the guerrillas, and it is losing hearts and minds at an increasing and alarming rate.
Thanks for linking to someone with such a "realistic appraisal," Erb. Idiot.
 
Written By: JWG
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And you call on Juan Cole to provide us with a more realistic appraisal of Iraq? Are you loopy or just plain stupid?

Juan Cole - A man who calls himself a linguist but who cannot even translate a simple "Wipe Israel off the map" statement by Allonmydinnerjacket! A man who stands out as a blatant apologist for the most despicable of Muslim Fanatics who cry out for western blood through conflict and martyrdom. That’s your voice of reason?

And Cole writes of Jim Webb as the sole voice of sanity. Jim Webb, a man who was fired from the position as the Secratary of the Navy under Reagan. What did he do? Well, during his watch he wrote an OpEd for the Washington Post stating that women had no business in uniform. It is no waonder that, with men like that at the helm, Tailhook was just on the horizon.

Jim Webb, a man so desperate for a job he wrote an OpEd in 1992, again for the Washington Post, calling the Clinton Administration the most corrupt in history. Unable to get a job with the Republicans because of his "stellar" record, he surfaced again in 2004, declaring himself a Democrat and calling the war a travesty. And who came out an campaigned with him? Clinton, his own self. They deserve each other. Political Opportunits, both.

And between Cole and Webb, this is the best you can do? LOL! You know, I can see a good line when I see it so I will throw your own words back at you - "You’ve gone this long unable to admit having been wrong about Iraq, why should I expect that to change?"

Small steps, there Erb! Small steps.

What a maroon!
 
Written By: SShiell
URL: http://
All those who continue to take Erb seriously, please raise your hands....

Shame on you!

I gave up on him weeks ago. There’s absolutely no point in trying to argue with this man. As others have pointed out, he never actually crafts an argument, he just states an opinion over and over, ad nauseam.

The sad thing is, I really do believe that there is a Scott Erb who is a professor of Political Science at the University of Maine. But the guy using his name here isn’t really Scott Erb, he’s a janitor who just parrots the failing essays of Dr. Erb’s students.

Think about it: Erb didn’t know what "fake but accurate" referred to, and he had never heard of The Fair Tax. Does anyone seriously think someone with a PhD in Political Science wouldn’t know those things?
 
Written By: Steverino
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’Tenets,’ perhaps?
I always get those mixed up. Thanks.
 
Written By: McQ
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Written By: fasd
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Yes, life is full of questions.
 
Written By: timactual
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Steverino writes:
I gave up on [Boris Erb] weeks ago.
Beck and I, and I think McQ, have observed this phenomenon for years, so I offer these few insights and encourage Beck and McQ to correct me if I’m wrong:

1. No point made by Erb has ever been "denied." He has a perfect record in argument over a decade. He cannot be refuted.

2. Those who attempt to argue against, or "deny," any point ever made by Erb are engaging in "bluster" or any number of logical fallacies as a consequence of their "emotionalism."

3. Erb is quite ready to offer cites to back himself up, most prominently the universal cite based on some variant of the famous "They" of "They say." This universal cite can take such forms as "most scholars," "most researchers in the field of ______," or "most scientists."

4. Erb is above holding grudges, and only seeks "honest discussion and debate," and refuses to engage in ad hominem attacks, except when he does. He is always ready to learn.

5. Erb "teaches this stuff."

 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://mcphillips.blogspot.com/
Prof. Erb — Is your claim that Iraq is a failure at all falsifiable? You brush off any positive evidence with derisive LOL, dismissive handwaving, ad hominems, and perhaps a link to someone like Juan Cole as though that settled matters for all sensible parties.

Iraq has been a complex, good news/bad news situation since the invasion. Nonetheless several important areas—falling death rates, improved security, increased oil production—are now clear. Perhaps this is temporary, perhaps not. From what I read, Iraqis themselves have turned a corner and I don’t think they will be going back. We shall see.

However, if things continue to improve, could there ever be a point when you would concede that Iraq is not a failure? Or will you just move on to something else to complain about?

South Africa has been a messy, violent place since the end of apartheid, yet I don’t hear progressives complaining that the new South Africa is a failure.
 
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Huxley, the policy of invading Iraq failed because it did not achieve the policy goals, and the costs were much higher than any benefit gained. Thus, as a policy, the choice to go to war was a fiasco, an extreme failure. That cannot change, that is judging the policy in terms of its goals and cost/benefit analysis. (I’ve gone into detail about that in the past).

The shift in policy recently by changing goals and engaging in more diplomacy will, hopefully be a success. A successful policy after a failed policy can undo some of the harm done by the failed policy. The lessons from the failure in Iraq have to be learned so we don’t make the same mistakes. They also can help guide us to choosing a better policy to try to undo the damage, and hopefully that policy will succeed.
Think about it: Erb didn’t know what "fake but accurate" referred to, and he had never heard of The Fair Tax. Does anyone seriously think someone with a PhD in Political Science wouldn’t know those things?
Why should I know those things?
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
SShiell, Juan Cole’s knowledge of the region and his expertise is far beyond yours or mine. If you want to attack him personally, you are again proving that for some of you, your positions are so set emotionally that you feel a psychological need to go after anyone who effectively counters your position not based on evidence or argumentation, but personal attacks. That means you evade reasonable discussion. Cole also has shown that Ahmadinejad never threatened to wipe Israel off the map, and in fact Israel is wiped off the maps all over the Arab world (try to find Israel on a Saudi map).

Of course, you have to personally attack Webb too. Seriously, SShiell, you need to take a hard look at yourself and whether or not you are really thinking through these issues, or if its more an emotional cause. Because, frankly, the idea that all who oppose your position are bad and worthy of insult, and most of those who are with you are good and honorable is a tad silly.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Why should I know those things?
"Fake but accurate" was the term used by the NY Times to describe the physical evidence (documents) in the biggest scandal of the 1984 election cycle. So, unless you can somehow convince me that a professor of Political Science shouldn’t know what the "paper of record" of the US says during the presidential election, you should have known this as part of your trade.

The Fair Tax is a subject that’s been around for several years, and it’s one of several movements to reform the tax system of this country. Granted, it’s got a lot of economics (and icky math-type stuff), but you’ll have to convince all of us that this isn’t a part of American politics that’s worthy of your study.


These subjects are not arcane theories spoken of only in the most secret cabals of government, they’re things that anyone paying attention to politics for the past 5 years should recognize. The mere fact that I have to tell you why you should know these things tells me quite a bit about your devotion to your field of expertise.
 
Written By: Steverino
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Cole also has shown that Ahmadinejad never threatened to wipe
Israel off the map, and in fact Israel is wiped off the maps all over the Arab
world (try to find Israel on a Saudi map)
.
I hope this part was a sly joke.
wiped off the maps all over the Arab world (try to find Israel on a
Saudi map)
As for the opening of the statement, Mr Cole (and you) must have missed quotes
like the following in making his evaulation then.
"We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if
they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and
other nations will eventually do this for them."

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s
fury."

"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of
regional nations."

"Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm."


And the ever popular, "never happened" quote

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome
of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam
said, Israel must be wiped off the map."
"As the Imam said" the money quote - He’s repeating the words of the Imam
himself.

And these guys must have mis-understood Mr. AhmyDinnerjacket too.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
So from what Looker found, I suppose Juan Cole has a written apology for Al Jazeera’s obvious mis-translation. You know for somebody like Cole, who has never been to Iran, to speak the language better than the natives is some trick! Does he do Bar-Mitzvahs, too?
 
Written By: SShiell
URL: http://
Steverino writes to Boris:
The mere fact that I have to tell you why you should know these things tells me quite a bit about your devotion to your field of expertise.
Oh, Lord, you’ve just turned down another boulevard in Erbograd, where the things that Boris doesn’t know about but should are lined up like Victorian mansions.

One of my favorites was when Boris claimed that he had no idea who Christopher Hitchens was. That one was a real head-scratcher. Could he pay so little attention to things as to miss the ubiquitous Hitchens? Is there a writer/commentator who stands out more than the British, voluble, sometimes vicious, usually unkempt, often unsober, trenchant, former writer for The Nation, now writer for Slate, Hitchens?

I think that the reason Erb was suspected of lying about not knowing who Hitchens was had to do with something that Hitchens had done or written or said that Boris wanted to deny knowing about. I don’t remember the details.

But suppose he really didn’t know who Hitchens was? Which was worse, for such an astute commentator as Boris, lying or actually not knowing?

The mystery of it all.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://mcphillips.blogspot.com/
"Why should I know those things?"

Because they are fairly widely known items in your field of alledged expertise. Even I know them. Perhaps if you spent more time keeping up with what is happening in your field in the real world and less time wallowing in your narcissistic self-promotion (come read my blog!) you would be aware of these things.
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
"... something that Hitchens had done or written or said that Boris wanted to deny knowing about."

His argument in favor of our invasion of Iraq comes immediately to mind. It is hard to characterize him as any sort of ’con’, neo or otherwise.
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
Never did hear back,
am I still supposed to consider Juan Cole an expert or not?
Let me help out with the answer, we’ll make it multiple guess....

A) AllJazzError is just really bad at translating things into English
B) I’madinnerjacket did not ’say’ ’Israel must be wiped off the map’ because
he was speaking Farsi not english and so, therefore, couldn’t have actually
said those words
C) I’madinnerjacket was just quoting Khommeni and not really saying it himself
D) we’re just not going to talk about this part any more for obvious reasons
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
No, timactual, in my field of expertise — international relations and comparative politics, with a speciality in European foreign policy — these things are not well known. I suppose if I studied American politics a "fair tax" proposal would be something I’d know, but it sounds more like something that lingers in a particular corner of the political spectrum.

Steverino, I was living in DC in 1984, working for a Senator, so I’m sure I heard of the "fake but accurate" headline then, but I can’t recall what it was about now. I’ll ask a colleague who teaches American politics, I’m sure he knows.

Looker, Cole has proven himself in his translations, and is an expert on Shi’ite Islam (Professor at the U. of Michigan, with an excellent history of scholarship). You can make crude little asides, but that hardly is enough to call into doubt his scholarship and expertise — he routinely is on news programs and interviewed about the region. I suspect you are not. So unless you have more than cute misspellings of names and the like, it’s hard to take your seriously on this.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Scott - ah yes, appeal to unimpeachable authority - "he’s been on TV"

So, regardless of how many reputable authorities and new services translate it
one way, the fact that Cole says it doesn’t means, to you, it doesn’t.

You’re willing to accept a single source on this despite it being demonstrated
that numerous other, equally if not better qualified sources, refute it.

I don’t think I need to say any more on that then do I other than to point out
it’s hard to take you seriously on this.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
"I suppose if I studied American politics a "fair tax" proposal would be something I’d know"

I suppose if you read a newspaper or magazine now and then you would also know. Or perhaps something on the internet other than The Guardian or your own blog. Where do you think the rest of us learned about it? It used to be called ’current events’ when I was in high school. Sort of like actually learning history as it happens.

"Steverino, I was living in DC in 1984, working for a Senator, so I’m sure I heard of the "fake but accurate" headline then,..."

LOL. I don’t think so.

"I’ll ask a colleague who teaches American politics, I’m sure he knows"

Please videotape it. I would love to see it.

"he routinely is on news programs and interviewed"

Like Jerry Falwell? Rush Limbaugh? Paris Hilton? Anyway, how do you know what he says on these shows since, noting the previous paragraphs, you obviously don’t watch them?

****************************

" Scott - ah yes, appeal to unimpeachable authority - "he’s been on TV""

And don’t forget, he is also a college perfesser. That’s a twofer.
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
I did some reading up on the fair tax...it actually sounds like a good idea in many ways. I’d need to read a lot more before I’d advocate it.

BTW, I don’t read the Guardian, I read the Financial Times. Best newspaper in the world, in my opinion (though I also like the Sueddeutsche Zeitung).
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm

 
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