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Clinton: When all else fails, deploy the "politics of fear"
Posted by: McQ on Friday, January 04, 2008

This is apparently Hillary Clinton day but I can't wait to hear the first Democrat accuse Republicans of using the politics of fear, when, immediately after Clinton's setback in Iowa, she ran those very same politics [per the Democrats own definition] out in New Hampshire:
But in an airport hangar this morning, she said: "We have people who are plotting against us right now, getting ready to repeat the atrocity of Sept 11. We know it, I see the intelligence reports."
There it is. Remember it. The "politics of fear" is no longer a critique of Republicans that Democrats can validly use.


 
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Hillary’s desparate. She’s using the politics of fear because she sees her candidacy slipping away if she doesn’t hold on to New Hampshire. I don’t think the New Hampshire voters will fall for it. The sooner Hillary and Mitt go, the better, IMO.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
The "politics of fear" is no longer a critique of Republicans that Democrats can validly use.
It never was.
 
Written By: abw
URL: http://abw.mee.nu
The "politics of fear" is no longer a critique of Republicans that Democrats can validly use.
It never was.
Heh - yeah, especially for those of us who remember how World War III started when Ronald Reagan was elected. If only I had listened to the Democrats then we’d all be alive today.
 
Written By: looker
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Boris Erb writes:
Hillary’s desparate.
The Clintons have always been desperate, Boris. Their method has long been to bring or allow things to fall into crisis mode, shoot the wounded (in the head, preferably), and then stage a comeback, leaving their enemies’ corpses bloated and floating on the bay side, while they go surfing to greater power and acclaim on the ocean side.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://mcphillips.blogspot.com/
We know it, I see the intelligence reports.
Uh oh! The last time she made a stand against those plotting against us based on intelligence reports she saw, Hillary immediately spent years repudiating it, going so far as to say she was duped.


Did evil BushchimpymchitlerhalliburtonRovetron7000 dupe her again??
 
Written By: shark
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By the way, why can’t a Democrat accuse a Republican of using the politics of fear just because Hillary uses it? I mean, that’s awfully collectivist of you, McQ. If Huckabee uses rhetoric about social welfare, does that mean Republicans can no longer criticize Democrats who use similar rhetoric? Are these two collectives, whereby when a member of either talks, it reflects the whole collective? Or should we look at individuals?
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
Sophomoric argument, Professor. Far beneath your paygrade.

BTW, Scott, when will Hillary!’s "surrogates" drop "the big one" on Barack Obama?

It had better be soon, because he is off to the races, and is inside Hillary!’s OODA loop. Her machine is not lean enough to respond. Her battle techniques are stale and too well-known to exploit the element of surprise.

Further, her claxon call is no longer an appeal to the youth/withit vote. From her, it still sounds like a call to the boomer generation which rapidly is turning into the geezer generation.

And whereas Barack sounds new and exciting, Hillary! sounds liks a fishwife on steroids — even when trying to deliver the same message that from Barack sounds fresh and new.

Charisma comes from within. Teddy had it, FDR had it, Ike had it, JFK had it, Reagan had it, and to some extent, Bill Clinton had it. Hillary! does not have it.

More exposure will just magnify these differences.

I may be wrong, but I have a hunch we saw the passing of the Clinton generation last evening in that nearly empty ballroom in Iowa.

Just a feeling, mind you; but real nevertheless.
 
Written By: vnjagvet
URL: http://www.yargb.blogspot.com
vnjagvet writes:
I have a hunch we saw the passing of the Clinton generation last evening in that nearly empty ballroom in Iowa.
It would be nice to believe that, but don’t believe it.

The Clintons specialize in comebacks. Remember, Bill Clinton was caught red-ah-handed being fellated by a fat girl in the Oval Office toilet, and he’s now World Citizen One. And I believe his stance in that toilet, given its location, was what you would call a "wide stance."

The Clintons come back like zombies from the grave. You can bury them deep, and they rise.

And charisma?

Hillary says: I don’t need no stinkin’ charisma.

You don’t honestly think that the Clintons and their outfit will be unable to handle Obama, do you?
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://mcphillips.blogspot.com/
If by "handle", you must mean "destroy", because that may be the only thing that can help them now. It is quite possible they can destroy Obama. But that will spell the end of Hillary!’s chance for the White House.

I don’t believe the Clinton machine is any longer subtle enough to pull off Obama’s political destruction without very apparent fingerprints.

I believe there is a real possibility that Obama’s inexperience and relative youth will cause him to implode. But if any significant number of the electorate perceive that the Clinton hatchets have helped the process along, she will not benefit from it with ultimate victory. She may get the nomination, but she won’t be elected.

Just one man’s opinion, Martin.
 
Written By: vnjagvet
URL: http://www.yargb.blogspot.com
vnjagvet writes:
Just one man’s opinion, Martin.
That’s what we’re all sportin’ around here. If I could actually see the future, I’d be at the track.

But I’ve watched the Clintons take whatever they wanted, including furniture, and escape ("comeback") from every conceivable scandal that they got themselves into or setback that they faced. Look at the way Hillary walked into New York and took that place over. Based on all that, they will put Barack Obama down, hard, soon, and act like it was a terrible tragedy that such a promising young leader had thrown his own future away. Edwards, I might add, will be dealt with even more brutally, if it comes down to it.

And that is just another man’s opinion, based on long observation of the subject matter.
 
Written By: Martin McPhillips
URL: http://mcphillips.blogspot.com/
Martin:

I don’t disagree with the liklihood that the odious slattern and her equally odious husband will unloose the harpies in every direction against opponents of all types.

The question is how they will do it sufficiently covertly without a real backlash among independants, certain african americans and Reagan dems.

Now that Sandy Burglar is no longer available, who will they use?

I am sure our detective work will begin soon.
 
Written By: vnjagvet
URL: http://www.yargb.blogspot.com
LMAO....here we go with the "I’m a centrist" routine...BIll pulled it off....fool me once....

Tha fact remains...and it’s a big problem for Clinton, people see her Presidency as a return to the past...it’s not forward looking...

Note Obama’s forward-bright future-change message being embrassed...

As noted above, their tactics are too well known and Obama has some of her former people in his camp....

Now pulling out the Centrist message shows me just how much in disarray her campaign is....and Bill can’t save her. Only Bill Clinton can pull off Bill Clinton’s campaign.



 
Written By: Khepri
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Whats wrong with fearing another terrorist attack? There are hundreds-of-thousands of jihadists who would jump on the opportunity to attack us again if they felt it possible, and there are millions of people who would support and enable them to plot and plan unfettered until such opportunity arises.

Whats wrong with supporting a candidate that would face that challenge head on, so we won’t have to fear terrorism in the future?
 
Written By: Jimmy the Dhimmi
URL: www.warning1938alert.ytmnd.com
Whats wrong with fearing another terrorist attack?
The odds against being caught up in one are immensely against it. It’s an irrational fear. The possibility of a terror attack is very real, and we should prepare, but fear? Nah, fear is irrational.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm
The "politics of fear" is no longer a critique of Republicans that Democrats can validly use.
It never was.
Thought it never stopped them from making the accusation, and it still won’t.
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
URL: http://
The odds against being caught up in one are immensely against it. It’s an irrational fear. The possibility of a terror attack is very real, and we should prepare, but fear? Nah, fear is irrational.
Ahhh. You are taking the term "fear" too literal.
 
Written By: Don
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Whats wrong with supporting a candidate that would face that challenge head on, so we won’t have to fear terrorism in the future?
Not a thing.

But that’s not the topic of the post.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
"The question is how they will do it sufficiently covertly..."

Clintons don’t do covert, they do brazen. Like slugs, they have already left a trail of slime going back to his college years, and everybody knows it.
 
Written By: timactual
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i have a dif take on the results.
poor mr or mrs president
 
Written By: rawdawgbuffalo
URL: http://rawdwgb.blogspot.com
If Huckabee uses rhetoric about social welfare, does that mean Republicans can no longer criticize Democrats who use similar rhetoric?
No. But it certainly means that Huckabee can’t.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
Fear is an instinct which keeps us alive. We have all been afraid. It is only irrational if there is no threat.

I will agree that our reaction to terror should be to continue to live our lives, mindful of the existence of the threat. If we allow terrorists to alter our lives to a significant degree, they have won and we cannot allow that.

What Hillary has done, inadvertently, is elevate the debate on leadership and national security. We are engaged in two shooting wars - Iraq and Afghanistan. It is prudent to elect a president with the knowledge and experience to be an effective commander in chief. It is prudent to elect a president with the knowledge and experience to manage a $13+ trillion economy. It is prudent to elect a president with the knowledge and experience to occupy the dominant seat in the family of nations.

President is a job without equal and we should make sure we elect someone who has demonstrated the necessary qualifications.
 
Written By: Arch
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President is a job without equal and we should make sure we elect someone who has demonstrated the necessary qualifications.
Actually, what matters more are the advisors the President has, and the President’s ability to make judgement calls.

More than ideology or experience I’d focus on the people around the President and whether or not the candidate has personal integrity. I’m not sure what would qualify a President otherwise, or if any candidate could meet the standards if we expected the President to handle all this on his or her own.
 
Written By: Scott Erb
URL: http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/~erb/blog.htm

 
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