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HuffPo comes through again
Posted by: McQ on Monday, January 14, 2008

As I mentioned in my post "The Joy of HuffPo" you don't know what you're missing unless you wander by there every once in a while. Today it is Erica Jong:
I am so tired of pink men bombing brown children and rationalizing it as fighting terrorism. I am so tired of pink men telling women (of all colors) what to do with their wombs—which connect with their brains—in case you forgot. I am so tired of pink men telling us we should stay in Iraq for generations. I am so tired of pink men buying bombs and cheating schools. I am so tired of pink men having wives who stand behind them and nod sagely on television. I am so tired of pink men expecting that someone—a brown, black, yellow or white woman—will trail behind them changing light bulbs, taking out garbage, washing laundry, keeping food in the house, taking care of kids of all ages, of parents of all ages. I am so tired of pink men whose wives double or triple the family income thinking they can spend it without doing a damn thing at home. I am so tired of pink men spouting nonsense on TV. I am so tired of pink men arguing, blathering, bloviating, predicting the future—usually wrongly—and telling women to shut up. I am so sick of hearing that another pink man has dropped his children out a window, off a bridge or killed his pregnant wife or killed his unpregnant wife because he was infatuated with another pregnant woman. I am so sick of pink men making war and talking about peace. I am so sick of pink men appointing their mediocre cronies to judgeships, to political advisors, to cushy jobs, to columns in the paper, to multimillion-dollar posts as CEOS or actors (while the actresses make less) or producers or writers or newsreaders or talk show bloviators or supposedly sage counselors at law. I am so tired of pink men.
Me?

I'm pink and I'm proud.

(HT: John Hawkins at RWN)
 
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Yes, because brown people never do bad things. Nor do yellow people.

Jong hasn’t been relevant since the 70s. If she even was then.
 
Written By: Hazel Stone
URL: http://thelineishere.org
Wow!

Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war !!
 
Written By: Neo
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In the Middle East the Arabs actually call white people’s skin tone pink. When I first heard that I looked at my skin and thought "Yeah, it fits" (nobody’s ever accused me of being swarthy).

Of course, then the other shoe dropped. The Arabic word for pink?

Bambi.
 
Written By: ken
URL: http://crimlaw.blogspot.com
I am so sick of some women whining about everything that is wrong with the world through their eyes and not doing a damn thing but bitch instead of trying to find solutions.



 
Written By: retired military
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Pink power!

Pink power!!

*raises fist in Black Panther Fashion*

Hey, does that mean we can form a group called the Pink Panthers? I know EXACTLY the music we should use to start the rallies...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
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When the Pink man gets tired of women like Erica Jong, they just find another woman and leave her alone to prattle on to herself.

When the Brown man gets tired of women like Erica Jong, they kill her.

I suggest if she’s so tired of us pinkies, she go find herself a brown man
 
Written By: shark
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I’m not defending the particular substance of the rant as generally valid by any stretch, but there’s a certain rhythm to it, a frustration (born of ignorance, perhaps), that is simply something a lot of people think. Yea, the viewing of the world in terms of races is, well, primitive.

And then there was the rest of it:
And by the way some brown men and tan men and wheaten men do these things too.

Don’t tell me about women who kill. I know there are some—but fewer. So let’s just remember our mothers—who bore us, protected us against our fathers and grandfathers and all the pink or brown men who wanted to rape us or kill us or starve us because we were girls.

I am not stupid. I know all generalizations are false. I know there are bad mothers, bad women, bad sisters, bad aunts, and bad females of every stripe. But I have seen enough men in high office to last a lifetime. Let’s give women a chance!
There’s substantially more truth to that, and context, so I wonder why you left it out as it’s so crucial to honest context and is substantially less than the part you posted.

Why not let’s just deal with the facts?

Throughout history, the same macro brutality we all know has happened just as systematically to many women at a micro-societal level, the vast majority of it never known to the world. Think about it; think about how that terror vs. security transmits as a gene down through the ages.

I once had a guy explain to me what he though was the fundamental essential difference between men and women: "women live 24/7 viscerally understanding that physically, they live at the behest of men, that almost any man can snuff them out at will." Men have no concept of such a metaphysical reality, no more than they do of pregnancy and childbirth.

I guess: let the women have their rants. It’s not wholly unjustified.

 
Written By: Richard Nikoley
URL: http://www.honestylog.com
protected us against our fathers and grandfathers and all the pink or brown men who wanted to rape us or kill us or starve us because we were girls.
Richard, do you really think this is a fair description of men’s relationships to their daughters and granddaughters?

I know some men do those things. But that’s quite a big brush to use on all fathers.


As a father, I’m offended that you would even think this statement is justified.
 
Written By: Steverino
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I am so tired... I am so tired... I am so tired... I am so tired... I am so tired...
Well that much, Erica, is obvious as hell. Definitely tired. Spent, even.

And just plain g*d*amned out of your mind to push the whole preposterous bit quite this far:
So let’s just remember our mothers—who bore us, protected us against our fathers and grandfathers and all the pink or brown men who wanted to rape us or kill us or starve us because we were girls.
Our fathers and grandfathers? I suspect I’m like a lot of women reading this in that having some played out mindless hate-filled whining old hag presume anything about my father and grandfathers — and my mother, of course, as well — makes me angry in a way that you’re clearly too worn out and used up — and f*cking dim to begin with — to understand.

Ridiculous arrogant b*tch.
 
Written By: Linda Morgan
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I’m tired of pink women pretending they know of the world outside their affluent costal cocoon, based upon the writings of other pink women who learned about the travails of non-pink women by attending pink colleges, whose predominantly pink professors teach the next generation of pink women what it is really like being non-pink.

I may vote for Obama just to piss off the identity politic constrained leftist that thinks a woman whose chief experience, wife of a governor/president, deserves to be President just because she is a DEMOCRAT woman.

Far too many can’t accept that others have really heard their spiel, and rejected it... much easier to construct evil caricatures of ’the opponent’ nefariously prevented (by Rove et.al.) from hearing the REAL truth.
 
Written By: bains
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Mel and Madeline, forgive me for connecting your art with Erica’s schlock, but she’s just so very tired of men, I can’t help but wonder if something besides her tiresome delusions made her that way.
 
Written By: Linda Morgan
URL: http://
"...our mothers—who bore us, protected us from fathers and... men who wanted to rape us or kill us or starve us"

Unfortunately, they very often don’t. :-(

Girls who are in situations where they are in particular danger from men are usually put there *by* their mother and their mother’s choices.

Girls who face threats external to the family usually have male and female protectors, both. And those who take jobs specifically as protectors are most often men.
 
Written By: Synova
URL: http://synova.blogspot.com
"HEY-HEY, HO-HO...I’m pink as hell and...nnnow you go iron my shirt Erica"

...it’s harder than you think to rhyme in context with HO-HO....
 
Written By: markm
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Several archaeologists and anthropologists now argue that violence was much more pervasive in hunter-gatherer society than in more recent eras. From the !Kung in the Kalahari to the Inuit in the Arctic and the aborigines in Australia, two-thirds of modern hunter-gatherers are in a state of almost constant tribal warfare, and nearly 90% go to war at least once a year. War is a big word for dawn raids, skirmishes and lots of posturing, but death rates are high—usually around 25-30% of adult males die from homicide...

Not so many women as men die in warfare, it is true. But that is because they are often the object of the fighting. To be abducted as a sexual prize was almost certainly a common female fate in hunter-gatherer society. Forget the Garden of Eden; think Mad Max.
The Economist, "Hunter-gatherers: Noble or Savage?"
One can just as well argue that all men know in their genes know that they are expendable and likely to die defending the tribe, including the women.

We’re all tired of war, but we are, as humans, getting better at not killing each other. The project is coming along more slowly than we would like, but progress is being made.
 
Written By: huxley
URL: http://
"That’s cute Erica,now get me a beer."
 
Written By: Tim
URL: http://
But seriously, bains pretty well nailed it. Erica Jong has become completely irrelevent. I think of my sister (35y.o.) or my niece (17y.o.) reading about half way through that screed and just laughing out loud at the anachronistic mind set.
 
Written By: Tim
URL: http://
"That’s cute Erica,now get me a beer."
And don’t forget the washing, dusting, and I like my dinner at 5:30pm sharp.
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
URL: http://
Women in power can be just as bad as men. Y’all saw "Disclosure"...
 
Written By: Rob
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Richard Nikoley:
There’s substantially more truth to that, and context, so I wonder why you left it out as it’s so crucial to honest context and is substantially less than the part you posted.

Why not let’s just deal with the facts?
The problem with that "context" is that it is bulls**t. The basic facts are: nature’s basic economics placed women in a position of being almost property, and "pink men’s" culture changed this.

Richard Nikoley:
Throughout history, the same macro brutality we all know has happened just as systematically to many women at a micro-societal level, the vast majority of it never known to the world. Think about it; think about how that terror vs. security transmits as a gene down through the ages.
I have, but I don’t think you quite get it.

Women, it seems, play this to best advantage. Witness, say, Pocohontas or Malitzin. They have more ability to switch cultures / tribes as required, but typically less authority in either culture / tribe. It’s a double-edged sword.

Modern Western culture, largely due to the actions of "pink men", has significantly eliminated the advantage of men with respect to women.

Richard Nikoley:
I once had a guy explain to me what he though was the fundamental essential difference between men and women: "women live 24/7 viscerally understanding that physically, they live at the behest of men, that almost any man can snuff them out at will." Men have no concept of such a metaphysical reality, no more than they do of pregnancy and childbirth.
In modern society, almost anyone can "snuff out" anyone else at will. You have heard of "firearms", right? However, with the modern justice system created by "pink men", you can’t just "snuff out" someone and expect to get away with it. And, in particular, women are protected: restraining orders, sexual harrasment rules, etc., are designed to protect women.

If women cower in fear of men, I sure see little sign of it.

 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
Men have no concept of such a metaphysical reality . . .
Riiiight.

I notice a politness among men more so than between men and women (or women and women). In fact, I notice a sort of double standard, where women seem to expect special treatment.

Women can do things that would get the cr*p beaten out of a man.

Now, I don’t think that’s bad per se, but it makes a joke of women trying to wear a generic victim badge.
 
Written By: Don
URL: http://
Ace of Spades blog has a post up about a man who caught his 18 year old step-son anally raping is 8 year old daughter. Instead of killing him on the spot he called the cops, had the boy arrested, and made sure his daughter got to the hospital.

He wanted no one to help the boy.

His *wife*... the woman that Erica Jong lauds for protecting her daughter from fathers and grandfathers and men who want to rape and kill them... paid bail.

(Presumably protecting your daughter from brothers wasn’t one of the attributes we’re supposed to be grateful to women for.)

The father picked his step-son up from jail, drove somewhere remote, and beat him with a baseball bat and anally raped him with a tool.

The *way* men protect their daughters isn’t always pretty, but it sure as HELL is an improvement over the way a MOTHER protects her daughter by making sure her eight year old daughter’s rapist doesn’t have to spend more than one night in jail.

Was she going to let the boy come *home*?

Oh, by all means the father is violent and there is no reason at all to think that the mother is violent or has ever been violent.

So?
 
Written By: Synova
URL: http://synova.blogspot.com
Instead of killing him on the spot he called the cops
Mistake number 1...
 
Written By: Scott Jacobs
URL: http://
Richard, darling, men are brutalized a lot more than women in this world. In western countries, women are sheltered and pampered and we like it that way. If we upper middle class princesses pretend we are victims, it’s because it gets us even more tribute and ransom.

These days, men live in fear of raising another man’s child unaware——and then when he checks and finds out he’s right, the courts make him pay child support after the divorce.
 
Written By: Fran Fitzsimmons
URL: http://
Those dang digital cameras make everyone look pink!
 
Written By: Epphan
URL: http://
"But I have seen enough men in high office to last a lifetime. Let’s give women a chance!"

Like Hillary Clinton? The woman who stood behind her husband and nodded sagely on television and defended those other women from Pink Willie, the poster boy for Peyronie’s disease?
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
I have seen enough men in high office to last a lifetime. Let’s give women a chance!
Nice to see HuffPo giving space to Thatcherites.
 
Written By: unaha-closp
URL: http://warisforwinning.blogspot.com/
I’m quite certain that if I were in charge Huff Po and Erica would not be the least bit impressed with my feminine nature.
 
Written By: Synova
URL: http://synova.blogspot.com

 
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