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And you wonder why we’re still dependent on foreign oil?
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, January 15, 2008

Check this out:
The nation's first proposed offshore wind-energy project cleared its most formidable hurdle yesterday as the US Minerals Management Service declared that the wind farm off Cape Cod would have little lasting impact on wildlife, navigation, and tourism.

The agency's nearly 2,000-page draft environmental impact statement makes clear that the federal government is inclined to approve construction of the 130 turbines in Nantucket Sound, 5 miles from the nearest coastline, unless major new concerns arise during a public comment period. Federal approval would probably come late this year or early next year, and remaining state permits are not expected to be a major obstacle, given that Governor Deval Patrick is in favor of the project.

With rising oil and natural gas prices enhancing its financial feasibility, the wind farm, expected to cost more than $1 billion, could be operating by 2011, its developer, Cape Wind Associates, said yesterday.
2,000 page "environmental impact statement". 10 years (it was first proposed in 2001) until built. And these are considered "green energy". All of this for "75% of Cape Cod's energy needs" - a real industrial powerhouse of an area.

Given this example, imagine trying to build a nuclear power plant. Or more refineries.
 
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Well, isn’t it obvious? The solution to our energy problems does not lie in piercing more holes in the ground to extract fossil fuels or mining the waters with wind towers. We have to think creatively. Outside-the-box.

And we have to tax and regulate the $#!+ out of Big Energy concerns like Cape Wind...
 
Written By: D
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Well, isn’t it obvious? The solution to our energy problems does not lie in piercing more holes in the ground to extract fossil fuels or mining the waters with wind towers. We have to think creatively. Outside-the-box.
You mean like pixie dust?

Just think if you could power a car with bong water, hemp and body odor. Then the Libertarian candidate might actually have a shot at a 3rd party victory.
 
Written By: Jeff
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what does electricity making wind farms have to do with getting offa oil? me thinks you are just looking for excuses for attacks without base.
 
Written By: SLNTAX
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Opposes Cape Wind for no good reason?

Mitt Romney

Romney and Reilly oppose the project despite a conclusion by the Army Corps of Engineers (in a draft environmental impact statement) that the wind turbines would be a boon for clean energy, lead to lower electric costs, improve public health as an alternative to pollution-producing fossil fuels and enhance national security through less reliance on foreign oil.
 
Written By: spongeworthy
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what does electricity making wind farms have to do with getting offa oil?
This:
2,000 page "environmental impact statement". 10 years (it was first proposed in 2001) until built. And these are considered "green energy".
So, all this red tape and delay is for a "renewable", "green", "non-polluting" energy source of the sort that should be giving enviro-weenies and their bureaucrat proxies wet dreams. Just imagine the fight in store for more domestic oil drilling or refinery capacity.

FWIW, Hubbert was right about peak oil production hitting in the 1970s. However, it was most decidedly not for the reasons he postulated. There is still lots of oil in the ground in the US and in near coastal waters. Environmental regulation and NIMBY/BANANA opposition makes it unaccessible, not economic factors.
 
Written By: D
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you can build all the wind farms in the world you would still need gas for your planes, and cars. the title of this post is very misleading.
 
Written By: SLNTAX
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you can build all the wind farms in the world you would still need gas for your planes, and cars. the title of this post is very misleading.
I thought a good deal of the Northeasts/New England electricity was generated using fossil fuels, which this would, in theory, reduce the need for (fossil fuels, that is), no?
 
Written By: Crusader
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I thought a good deal of the Northeasts/New England electricity was generated using fossil fuels, which this would, in theory, reduce the need for (fossil fuels, that is), no?
IIRC, my most recent NSTAR (large utility in MA) bill says we get about 10% of our power from oil. Natural gas is #1 at ~35% followed by coal and nuke. A smattering of niche sources rounds out the balance. So even if Cape Wind were to go 100% online tomorrow the net impact on northeastern petro use will probably not be significantly impacted. The real game changer will be the (hopefully) successful introduction of plug-in hybrid transportation solutions.
 
Written By: D
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A two thousand page Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) to describe the environmental impacts of a wind farm. Anybody here want to hazard a guess as to the cost of the EIS? Try $2.5 Million as a starter. And this is for what is ostensibly referred to as a "green" project.

Whenwever you run into problems with a Project like this, it is almost always either somneone with money or political clout that comes out against the project. In this case those defenders of the environment, the Kennedy Clan, has come out against the project with both their money and their political clout causing considerable delay in the completion of the EIS.
you can build all the wind farms in the world you would still need gas for your planes, and cars. the title of this post is very misleading.
The title is misleading only when you ignore the fact that this project is but an example of the problems you will face in trying to wean us off foreign oil. It will take 10 years from the start of the environmental process to construction completion - assuming there are no lawsuits. Anybody want to place a bet on the chance there won’t be any lawsuits?

You want to get off foreign oil? Virtually any project or series of projects aimed for that purpose will have to fight through similar environmental hurdles in order to get to that end game - again if the process survives the legal challenges. This is merely an example of the fights to come.
 
Written By: SShiell
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That tears it! I’m moving to France where they have clean nuclear power. None of this bird-killing ocean polluting windmill nonsense.
 
Written By: Fran Fitzsimmons
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That tears it! I’m moving to France where they have clean nuclear power!
Comment of the day.
 
Written By: glasnost
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Cape Wind is unique in that the project will service an area that currently uses power from an old oil burning facility some miles away. Certainly this isn’t going to make much of a dent in the states total fuel bill, but it will permit that old plant to be shut down or replaced with something newer and more efficient.

It wouldn’t work everywhere, but there’s no reason it won’t work on the Cape.
 
Written By: spongeworthy
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Romney and Reilly oppose the project despite a conclusion by the Army Corps of Engineers
Is that the same wonderful corp of engineers who oversaw this, and this?
 
Written By: meagain
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It will take leadership to get past all the envirodingbats and the Nimbys.

Leadership ?

Oh wait I forgot
 
Written By: kyleN
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It’s long overdue, folks: Invade Canada. They need to get up off our oil.

Canada. America’s Hat.
 
Written By: Rob
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"Canada. America’s Hat."

LOL.
Lovely. That line will keep me smiling for awhile.
 
Written By: timactual
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Ted Kennedy has said, "You don’t understand. That’s where I sail!"

I guess the greens just hit an immoveable object, the yacht lobby.

 
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