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Is Clinton trying to get the FL/MI decision reversed?
Posted by: McQ on Friday, January 25, 2008

Ezra Klein reports that Hillary Clinton appears to be trying to get the delegates from Michigan and Florida reinstated:
This is a very, very, very big deal. From the Clinton campaign:
I hear all the time from people in Florida and Michigan that they want their voices heard in selecting the Democratic nominee.

I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan. I know not all of my delegates will do so and I fully respect that decision. But I hope to be President of all 50 states and U.S. territories, and that we have all 50 states represented and counted at the Democratic convention.

I hope my fellow potential nominees will join me in this.

I will of course be following the no-campaigning pledge that I signed, and expect others will as well.
This is the sort of decision that has the potential to tear the party apart.
Klein isn't talking about the decision to deny those delegates entrance to the Democratic convention. Instead he's talking about the possibility of reinstating them after she won Michigan unopposed and is leading in Florida.

And of course she makes this statement just prior to FL and after MI is a done deal.

That while giving lip service to the party's decision (yet leaving her name on the ballot in MI) to bar them both while at the same time appealing to the "fairness" of such a decision and its exclusionary nature (both supposedly anathema to liberal principles). As Klein points out, if she's successful, and that puts her over the top in the delegate count, there will be hell to pay from supporters of the other candidates.

Heh ... You've got to lover her chutzpa calling for her "fellow potential nominees" to join her in calling for the reinstatement of those delegates. How completely Clinton.

UPDATE: One of Sen. Clinton's "fellow potential nominees" has responded. From Barack Obama's campaign:
“No one is more disappointed that Florida Democrats will have no role in selecting delegates for the nomination of the party’s standard bearer than Senator Obama. When Senator Clinton was campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire, she made it clear that states like Michigan and Florida that wouldn’t produce any delegates, ‘don’t count for anything.’ Now that Senator Clinton’s worried about losing the first Southern primary, she’s using Florida for her own political gain by trying to assign meaning to a contest that awards zero delegates and where no campaigning has occurred. Senator Clinton’s own campaign has repeatedly said that this is a ‘contest for delegates’, and Florida is a contest that offers zero. Whether it is Barack Obama’s record, her position on Social Security, or even the meaning of the Florida Primary, it seems like Hillary Clinton will do or say anything to win an election. When he is the nominee, Barack Obama will campaign vigorously in Florida and Michigan to put them in the Democratic column in 2008.”
 
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please please please please PLEASE do it, Dean. You are just dumb enough to do it, all you need do is rise to the occasion. Then this really will be (almost) 1968 in the DNC all over again.
 
Written By: Joel C.
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There was ’rumor’ here in Michigan that Hillary’s name was the only name on the ballot due to maneuvering from the Democrat Leadership in MI and not quite what was reported.
 
Written By: jpm100
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" it seems like Hillary Clinton will do or say anything to win an election. "

Wow someone from the Democratic party finally put into words what the republicans have been saying for the past 16 years.


 
Written By: retired military
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Wow....this is one of the slimier things she’s done. I personally hope she does it. In my mind it is a done deal that she finds SOME way to ace Obama out, if she does it with blatant trickery and procedural slickness she’s gonna tee off a lot of voters, and they just may stay home on election day.

At least it causes a racial rift in the Dem party, fine with that too.
 
Written By: shark
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And remember all you voters, if you elect Hillary, you’re stuck with at least 4 more years of this tiring sh*t!


For all the talk about "who destroyed the GOP" it looks like we know who’s helping to destroy the other party as well....
 
Written By: shark
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For all the talk about "who destroyed the GOP" it looks like we know who’s helping to destroy the other party as well....
Peggy Noonan talked about that too, and rightly put the blame at the feet of the Clintons (Bill specifically, as far as she is concerned, but I don’t think of one without the other).

Both parties look to be like tottering old vehicles that are held together with baling wire and chewing gum, chugging down the road trying to make one more mile marker. They’re in a race that’s not much fun to watch because it’s between two piles of junk, and only the fact that they both have similar problems disguises the fact that both are in terrible shape.
 
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Well, political scientists have been looking for a "re-alignment" for some time now. Many think what would have been a re-alignment in the 1968-72 era was shortstopped by the Nixon resignation and the election of very large numbers of very liberal Dems in 74. This was partially overcome by the unexpected Republican takeover of Congress in 94. (At least none of the political scientists I knew or was reading predicted it. I was an outlier and I was only predicting Republican gains to near equality, not an outright landslide win.)

The trouble was (aside from the personality imbalance between Gingrich and Clinton) that there was no issue re-alignment, only an exhaustion (I think) of voters with the constant liberal policy pressure, culminating in Hillary’s failed national health care plan. I suspect we’re now on the verge of a true re-alignment, and the Clinton’s tactics are only a triggering mechanism. If they manage to split the far Left from the rest of the party and begin internal sniping over who is the most deserving victim class, it may lead to a re-organization of both parties along more reasonable policy lines.

Looking at lotsa polls, there seems to be a fairly broad middle consensus in the US on a great number of issues: 1) reasonable access to abortion; 2) reasonable gun ownership and possession laws; 3) reasonable taxing policy (i.e. no higher than it is now); 4) restrained spending policy (i.e. cut the pork, at least); 5) begin the rescue of SS; 6) reasonable free trade policies; 7) reasonable drug policies (i.e. end the War on Drugs like we did Prohibition, with some laws against behavior still required); and the list goes on and on.

When I survey my students (18-35 or so, depending on the class), I find extremely wide agreement on these issues. I don’t think they’re non-representative of the greater middle class from which they spring. Practically none of them actually favor the extreme policies from either party and don’t want ’change’ so much as they want reality based reasonableness.

First party to articulate such a general stance wins, I think.
 
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